May 3, 2005

More about Laura talking dirty.

John Tierney has a well-phrased response to those who are gasping about Laura's dirty talk at the White House Correspondents Dinner last Saturday. He thinks they're all Blue Staters revealing a dumb prejudice about what Red Staters are really like:
If you live in a blue-state stronghold, a coastal city where you can go 24 hours without meeting any Republicans, it's consoling to think of the red staters as an alien bunch of strait-laced Bible thumpers.

Otherwise, how do you explain why they're Republican? Or answer the question Democrats asked in astonishment when they saw Mr. Bush's vote totals: Who are these people?

The favorite Democratic explanation is that the red staters are hicks who have been blinded by righteousness, as Thomas Frank argues in "What's the Matter With Kansas?" He laments that middle-class Kansans are so bamboozled by moral issues like abortion and school prayer that they vote for Republicans even though the Republican tax-cutting policies are against their self-interest.

Meanwhile, on "The Daily Show," Steve Colbert played a recording of Laura Bush repeating the milking-a-male-horse joke later on, with much more detail. I'm not seeing a clip at the show's site, and I'm not going to quote it here. Suffice it to say many words were bleeped out, and it was quite hilarious.

12 comments:

leeontheroad said...

The Left's been spining this, yes, but I think Tierney is also spinning it.

If Drudge and Sullivan were taken in by the Swift Report, I really don't think that AFTER THE FACT deciding that all the hullaballo was from the left is anything but spin.

I think this bit in the "red state" Houston Chronicle is honest. The writer claims to have been initially "disconcerted" by LB's remarks but now (app)lauds them. Good for the writer, good for Laura.

Of course _The Nation_ (David Korn, I think) is going to talk about hypocrisy, given some of the Christian Right's confusion between the adminstration and some CR political orgs. But it would seem, given Laura's performance (funny, suggestive without being vulgar), that both _The Nation_ (TN) and the Nanny Theocrats (NT) are wrong.

Melinda said...

I agree, Lee. Tierney is spinning it just a tad.

I'm a Manhattanite, not only that but a "Wear a lot of black" downtowner. The Democrats/liberals I know thought Mrs. Bush's remarks were funny, and some of us are or have been professional comedians.

We also recognized it as a smooth marketing move on the part of the White House to reassure "regular" people--the vast majority of Americans--that the Bush Administration wasn't plunging the country headfirst into Holy Roller Land.

Richard Fagin said...

The Houston Chronicle may be in a red state, but it hardly published red state views. There was even a blog called "chronicallybiased.com" that catalogued its liberal follies.

Mrs. Bush's performance may have been surprising to the Washington press corps, but not to anyone that's ever worked around an oil drilling rig. Those folks are as solid Republican as they come (even the ones making $9 and hour slogging drill pipe and paint), and are noted for their raunchy blue-collar humor. 'Nuff said, except for a joke a friend made when Bill Clements (former CEO of SEDCO drilling) was governor of Texas, "Texas doesn't have a governor, it has a toolpusher!"

Gerry said...

" John Tierney has a well-phrased response to those who are gasping about Laura's dirty talk at the White House Correspondents Dinner last Saturday. He thinks they're all Blue Staters revealing a dumb prejudice about what Red Staters are really like:"

I don't think they are all 'blue staters'. I have the radio in my shower tuned to a talk station, but I generally do not shower during when Michael Savage is on. Last night, I did. Sure enough, he was blasting Laura to hell and back.

What a maroon he is.

L. Ron Halfelven said...

Did Tierney's "close-minded" slip past the Times' copy editor, or is it getting to the point where we'll have to accept it as part of the language? Can the back-formation "far-minded" be far behind?

Art said...

I know this excuse is getting lame but it's the hypocracy, stupid. Try and imagine Theresa Heinz Kerry, or Tipper Gore, or Hillary Clinton telling the same joke. If it were tuned to Fox, your TV would now be a lump of molten plastic from all the flames that would have been shooting out of it. Democrats are sick of Republicans doing something like this and being played up in the press as cute and refreshing. Any one of the above would have been flamed as a threat to the sanctity of marriage.

Ann Althouse said...

Paul: Good catch. That is annoying.

Art: It's only hypocrisy if you begin with the stereotype. I don't think the Bushes have been personally sanctimonious about sexual matters. Now, Tipper Gore would deserve to be flamed.

EddieP said...

I'm a solid Georgia red stater, long time republican and sometime church goer. I love Laura Bush and wish we could see more of her, scripted or not! She was fantastic and the President was as well!

Now how about Hillary telling some jokes about Slick! Oops, not much funny there.

JamesTr said...

Well it seems to me the jokes did what they were intended to do, divert attention from W's falling popularity and falling numbers in the polls. Heck, they might have even picked him up a bit. It seems to have brought the left a little closer to believing that he might be human, or at least something more than ultra-conservative. Now if only W would actually do something to back all this up! How about something he could do to unite the country.

I agree with Art, if someone from the left's wife had made these remarks Fox "News" would have going ballistic about it.

leeontheroad said...

and from the self-proclaimed not South Park Conservative Michlle Malkin, we have belated criticism of what Malking calls "horse masturbation" and stripper jokes.

I have to say I didn't think the First Lady was suggesting the Pres. brought a male horse to orgasm, but perhaps social conservatives have more vivid imaginations than I do. What does Malkin mean? "Milking" was innuendo? An anlaogy? The mind boggles. . .

Ann Althouse said...

Lee: face reality: it was a horse masturbation joke. Malkin is right.

leeontheroad said...

I refer myself to raunch remediation. . .