April 28, 2008

Obama is letting Wright overpower him.

Dana Milbank says that Wright's speech today may have doomed the Obama candidacy. He summarizes the Q&A session pithily:
His claim that the September 11 attacks mean "America's chickens are coming home to roost"?

Wright defended it: "Jesus said, 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.' You cannot do terrorism on other people and expect it never to come back on you. Those are biblical principles, not Jeremiah Wright bombastic divisive principles."

His views on Farrakhan and Israel? "Louis said 20 years ago that Zionism, not Judaism, was a gutter religion. He was talking about the same thing United Nations resolutions say, the same thing now that President Carter's being vilified for and Bishop Tutu's being vilified for. And everybody wants to paint me as if I'm anti-Semitic because of what Louis Farrakhan said 20 years ago. He is one of the most important voices in the 20th and 21st century; that's what I think about him.... Louis Farrakhan is not my enemy. He did not put me in chains, he did not put me in slavery, and he didn't make me this color."

He denounced those who "can worship God on Sunday morning, wearing a black clergy robe, and kill others on Sunday evening, wearing a white Klan robe." He praised the communist Sandinista regime of Nicaragua. He renewed his belief that the government created AIDS as a means of genocide against people of color ("I believe our government is capable of doing anything").
Obama needs to take control of the situation. But what is he saying today?
Some of the comments that Reverend Wright has made offended me and I understand why they offend the American people. He does not speak for me. He does not speak for the campaign.
So bland. So uninspiring. Obama is letting Wright overpower him.

"Wright has now removed any guilt or conflict Obama might feel about denouncing him and his approach to race and politics," says Andrew Sullivan. Sullivan had been giving Wright a pass, but now he says:
[What Wright] said today extemporaneously, the way in which he said it, the unrepentant manner in which he reiterated some of his most absurd and offensive views, his attempt to equate everything he believes with the black church as a whole, and his open public embrace of Farrakhan and hostility to the existence of Israel Zionism, make any further defense of him impossible. This was a calculated, ugly, repulsive, vile display of arrogance, egotism, and self-regard.

ADDED: Video of the Q&A:

78 comments:

Paddy O. said...

Wright must be choleric.

Moose said...

Wow.

Andy, once again, pounces on the truth, like, months after everyone else does.

He is *so* insightful.

[rolling eyes]

Revenant said...

"Wright has now removed any guilt or conflict Obama might feel about denouncing him and his approach to race and politics," says Andrew Sullivan.

I give it... hm, three days. Three days of Obama not denouncing Wright and his approach to race and politics, before Sullivan cooks up another silly excuse for why there's really nothing wrong with the Obama-Wright connection anyway.

Duscany said...

I don't know what's so awful about objecting to Zionism. Many thoughtful people do, including many Jews.

Michael_H said...

Obama = Toast.

Wright is trying to carve out a piece of the Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton pie.

ricpic said...

So bland.

That's Obama's whole shtick. He's the Negro who doesn't frighten. Whites, that is. Why do you think they have Obasms over him? The relief. Sweet Jesus, the relief! Finally, a nice nonthreatening Black who'll allow us to do what we've been dying to do, vote for a Black president, a Black president who'll be SAFE. That's the whole strategy. Beyond that there's nothing. Nothing.

garage mahal said...

Wonder if Obama is re-thinking that perfectly reasonable and gracious offer from Hillary to put him on the ticket.

Mortimer? Thoughts?

rcocean said...

Nice quote from Andrew, what will be his view next week?

Revenant said...

I don't know what's so awful about objecting to Zionism. Many thoughtful people do, including many Jews.

So -- rough estimate -- how many thoughtful people do you know who call Zionism "a gutter religion"?

John Stodder said...

Wright's obvious hostility to Obama was the stunner from today. The old crabs in a barrel analogy ocmes to mind. Wright is willing to destroy Obama's candidacy in order to promote himself. And Obama, as you've pointed out, isn't fighting for it but instead is more or less acquiescing.

That's just wrong, for a president. He's making Jimmy Carter look ballsy by comparison.

We're going to look back on Obama as the biggest flash in the pan in American political history. Wow.

Paul Zrimsek said...

Your headline pretty much sums up the problem. Since Obama has been marketing his insipidity as if it were a flavor in its own right, we end up having to worry about what he's been sitting next to on the refrigerator shelf all this time.

Trumpit said...

"I don't know what's so awful about objecting to Zionism. Many thoughtful people do, including many Jews."

Many Jews? LOL, what have you been smoking? The Jews paid for that land with their blood many time over, and no stinking UN resolution equating racism with Zionism will change that. When you become an expert on Jewish history, then you can talk. Until then, por que no te callas la boca, chico?

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Methadras said...

Oh man, Rev. Wright once again takes the booby prize for the gift that keeps on giving. Wow, now Andrew kicks on the scene like Captain Obvious and tries to nail Wright down with his 'insight', 'in-depth (no pun intended)' analysis of how Andrew can no longer give Wright a pass. Hey Andrew, I know for a fact you read this blog, so I'm going to once again bust the little bit of remaining balls that you have. Faux indignation much?

lurker2209 said...

Trying to elucidate what's really offensive about the Zionism comment.

I think it's the fact that Zionism isn't really a religion. It's a political and nationalistic movement based in religion. So by calling it a religion, he references the actual religion--Judaism--and transfers the insult to it. It's a subtle linguistic thing, but it's powerful.

The Drill SGT said...

Rev said...So -- rough estimate -- how many thoughtful people do you know who call Zionism "a gutter religion"?

a quick guess, most Muslims?

Though I don't, I think it is fair for a thoughtful person to be critical of Zionism, which is a politcal movement. To call it a religion makes zionism = Judaism, which is therefore anti-semitic speech rather than political discourse.

AJ Lynch said...

Boy those Clintons are good! How the heck did they put those words in Rev. Wright's mouth?

The Drill SGT said...

lurker beat me to the obvious point.

Methadras said...

John Stodder said...

Wright is willing to destroy Obama's candidacy in order to promote himself.


He's lashing out against Obama in the same narrative way like the victimhood he portrays of all black people and the injustices done to them. In essence, this is political cannablism, with hot sauce.

And Obama, as you've pointed out, isn't fighting for it but instead is more or less acquiescing.

Obama has thrown so many people around his life under the bus to become President, he has no other way to feel other than a chastised child in the shadow of Wright. Man, this has the makings of all kinds of hero/villain mythologies doesn't it?

We're going to look back on Obama as the biggest flash in the pan in American political history. Wow.

When hasn't he been a flash in the pan. Ah yes, that winsome fire that ignites while cooking your favorite dish. Sauce anyone?

Methadras said...

The Drill SGT said...
a quick guess, most Muslims?


You will have to make a better distinction on the thoughtful Muslims that can distinguish between Zionism and Judiasm since most muslims around the world are illiterate and ignorant that Zionism and Judiasm are completely different. One a religion, the other a political movement. To them it's the same. Zionists are dirty, filthy Jews and dirty, filthy Jews are Zionists. Oh and Neocons too, which is just code for The Jews, which means Zionists.

To call it a religion makes zionism = Judaism, which is therefore anti-semitic speech rather than political discourse.

As far as Farakhan and Wright are concerned, they equate the two as the same. They will couch it any way they want to, but they are nothing more than elevated Jew haters regardless of the moniker that separates and distinguishes the two.

Pastafarian said...

Ann --

Wasn't it just yesterday that you stated that the Democrats should nominate Obama, even if Hillary has a better chance in the general election?

I can't tell if this is cruel neutrality, ambivalence, or simple waffling.

OldGrouchy said...

O my gosh, this is right out of the GOP/Karl Rove Playbook?

Of course, this statement implies a lot: "He did not put me in chains, he did not put me in slavery, and he didn't make me this color." Is the good reverend saying he's glad he's black or that he wishes he were white? It's not at all clear.

What is clear is the Reverend Jeremiah Wright is motivated by a strong hatred of all things American. I'm just hoping that he's not a member of the Northern part of the family!

Moose said...

Pretty funny, really.

Obama latched onto Wright as a father figure and to gain creds with the black community (bitter, if you like).

Now Wright it using Obama to launch his star into the Sharpton/Jackson/Farrakan universe.

What goes around comes around...

Maguro said...

Clearly, Rev Wright was created in a lab by the US Government in order to keep uppity black politicians in their place.

Whitey is wickedly clever.

Richard Fagin said...

Any 12 year old white kid who the stuffing beaten out of him the Dudley St. "T" station in 1968 for no more of a crime than being white can tell you Rev. Wright and his spiritual followers are racist pigs. I can still hear the crowd of thugs screaming "white motherf***ers!" 40 years later. "God damn America!" and everything that followed out of Wright's mouth is just as ugly and hateful to me as the "n" word is to black people.

Revenant said...

We're going to look back on Obama as the biggest flash in the pan in American political history. Wow.

At the risk of having my VRWC membership card revoked, I'd like to suggest the 1994 Gingrich small-government revolution is a better candidate for that title. :)

Ann Althouse said...

pastafarian said..."Wasn't it just yesterday that you stated that the Democrats should nominate Obama, even if Hillary has a better chance in the general election?"

I didn't say what they should do. I simply observed:

"I think it is obvious that the superdelegates will pick Obama. They have their own self-interest to consider, not to mention the long-term interest of the party. The choice for Obama is clear — and it would be clear even if they knew Clinton would win and Obama will lose."

That's a prediction of how the cards will play out, knowing what I know about the various interests.

Of course, the cards are different today. Who expected Wright to egomaniacally seize center stage and try to dominate Obama?

I still think the Democrats can't afford to reject Obama. Today's events might paradoxically mean that is even more true. He can't be defeated on race.

John Stodder said...

the 1994 Gingrich small-government revolution is a better candidate for that title.

A more consequential failure, to be sure. And, as is the case with Obama, an initially attractive leader whose failings were weakness and vanity.

Those Clintons...they got them some x-ray eyes!

JohnAnnArbor said...

This was a calculated, ugly, repulsive, vile display of arrogance, egotism, and self-regard.
When Andrew Sullivan criticizes you for too much self-regard, that's a good indication you've gone around the bend!

Pogo said...

"Farrakhan is not my enemy. He did not put me in chains, he did not put me in slavery, and he didn't make me this color"

Weird.
Seriously, when has Wright been in chains?
When was he in slavery?


And who exactly made him that color, except God?
Is he God damning God as well?

PatCA said...

JohnAnnArbor,
That's what I thought too--if Sullivan gets it, everybody does.

I'd say the first July 4th block part at the reverend's new mansion 'hood is going to be mighty awkward.

UWS guy said...

Hillary who? Nobody's talkin' 'bout her. Obama will have a huge sister Souljah moment and he'll coast to the nomination.

The dems have not yet begun to tar McCain with "Katrina was God's punishment for sin"... et cetera.

Just wait until the ads show him with the white versions of Wright. Obama's lucky to get this out of the way in the primary, McCain is going to roast on all these come the general.

Mortimer Brezny said...

Mortimer? Thoughts?

The politics of guilt-by-association may seem persuasive to some (e.g., Joseph McCarthy), but not to me. My thoughts are that Wright's latest remarks:

1. Aren't news.
2. Have nothing to do with the campaign.
3. Reflect Wright's leftism.

That said, the problems with giving it to Hillary have more to do with the fact that she is losing by a number of metrics. It doesn't help her that Wright is in the news, because it doesn't change the popular vote count or earn her any pledged delegates. Could it earn her a flood of superdelegates? Perhaps. But, like Ann, I just don't see it.

section9 said...

In the end, I figured that the latent anti-Semitism of Obama's black church would make itself felt.

It was like a countdown. "3....2...1....JOOOOOOOOOS!!!!!"

That's a huge takeaway from today. Watch the Jewish vote flee to John McCain now that Joe "Observant Jew" Lieberman is giving the Conservative and Reformed the okay to cross the aisle, just this once.

Obama is great. The more you peel back the onion, the more you get Che without the sense of style.

somefeller said...

I listened to Wright's Press Club Q&A live on the radio this morning while driving to work. That wasn't my plan, but that's what was on.

It was the worst press conference I've ever heard. He was pompous, dismissive and condescending in his tone, he was non-responsive to questions, and he was quick to attack the questioner rather than answer the question. I even thought it sounded like he was attacking the person who had the misfortune of being hired to screen questions from the crowd and ask them to him, but I may be mistaken on that, I didn't see the video of the conference.

On another thread, I said that Wright is a buffoon. He's even worse than that. He's a self-righteous jackass who thinks he's a lot more clever than he really is, and has forgotten that up until a few months ago, he was just another preacher in a pissant church that most people had never heard of. He's done terrible damage to Obama's campaign, and he either doesn't care or is to full of himself (without any justification for such pride) to know what he's done to the man who's supposed to be his friend.

George said...

Why does a Christian minister turn to the Nation of Islam for security?

Kinda like Billy Graham calling on the Jewish Defense League for muscle.

Kinda like the Stones hiring the Cowsills for security at Altamont.

Kinda like Miley Cyrus's Mom asking Annie Liebowitz to take demure snaps of her daughter.

Revenant said...

Why does a Christian minister turn to the Nation of Islam for security?

Bah. I'm more of a Christian than Wright is, and I don't even believe in God.

Mortimer Brezny said...

Why does a Christian minister turn to the Nation of Islam for security?

Cheap rates.

peter hoh said...

A month ago, Annie Gottlieb (aka Amba) wrote about Wright needing to see Obama rejected by American voters. It was an interesting post, and one I filed away. Seems prescient.

When I went to look for her post, I discovered that Annie herself was referencing it for her newest post.

former law student said...

I nominate Zrimsek's comment for comment of the month.

Fen said...

I nominate Zrimsek's comment for comment of the month.

Echo.

"Since Obama has been marketing his insipidity as if it were a flavor in its own right, we end up having to worry about what he's been sitting next to on the refrigerator shelf all this time." - Zrimsek 4/28/08

...Wright needing to see Obama rejected by American voters

Almost makes you wonder if Bill and Jerimiah have a side bet on who can tank their candidate first.

garage mahal said...

Mort
You are ever the Obama optimist, I'll hand you that. I disagree with the theory you and Ann apparently have that superdelegates will back Obama, but they're just a little masochistic in their desire to let things play out. There is nothing for an Obama leaning superdelegate to gain by waiting. He hasn't had a meaningful win since early March. What ARE they waiting for!

Fen said...

I disagree with the theory you and Ann apparently have that superdelegates will back Obama

Ann, how many supredelegates have their own election to consider? If you think their decision will be based on self-interest, you should also take that into account: the spectre of a down-ticket disaster.

Cedarford said...

"I don't know what's so awful about objecting to Zionism. Many thoughtful people do, including many Jews."

Revenent - So -- rough estimate -- how many thoughtful people do you know who call Zionism "a gutter religion"?

Drill SGT - a quick guess, most Muslims?

Though I don't, I think it is fair for a thoughtful person to be critical of Zionism, which is a politcal movement. To call it a religion makes zionism = Judaism, which is therefore anti-semitic speech rather than political discourse.


The problem with Zionism is it is a political movement that encompasses elements of religion and plenty of 19th, early 20th Century thinking on Jewish racial supremacy and mental prowness that make the KKK stuff seem tame by comparison.

So it isn't just Muslims that hold Zionism in disfavor. Most Latins, Asians, Europeans, and recently Africans now do as well. Sometimes resentments about Jews and Israeli state policy spill over into a blanket criticism of Zionism. Africans were once more well-disposed to Israel until Israel was linked to military and security support of S Africa and many bad African regimes.

Unfortunately for Israel, support of Zionism is limited to the USA, in steadily declining numbers, and minorities in Canada and a few European countries. Because the State of Israel and Zionism are wrapped in religion and preference for those of Jewish ethnicity - Jews can logically say that those that criticize either institution are criticizing Jews as a people and/or religion.
Hence the "anti-Semite!" "anti-Semite!!" hysteria that used to shut down any criticism of Israel or Zionism, past involvement with communism, present with deconstructionism, POMO, multiculti, or too much Jewish influence over foreign policy or key sectors of other nations - is waning in effectiveness as WWII recedes and the weapon is overused.

Certainly, "anti-Semite" accusations no longer have any impact in the black community - and that is why Obama's Jewish billionaires who discovered him and nourished his political career and patronized he and his wife's careers at U of Chicago are silent on Wright and Farrakan and Obama.

Jews tried silencing Farrakan - attempting to ostracize him, bar him from Universities and media the Jews ran, but as Wright says - "when Farrakan talks, blacks listen" and his message gets out nationwide in communication channels Jews do not own....Jews can sometimes still quash blacks they dislike with donations to opponents and backroom conversations with Democrat Party bigwigs, like McKinney, but less so each year...

Now, I don't like Wright and I reject the whole black victim&entitlement mentality. I think that Wright is Obama's cross to bear, and should make Obama unelectable - but more for Wright's anti-American, anti-white sayings than any crap he says about Farrakan being a great man despite Farrakan criticizing a foreign country and it's ideology.

The message that Wrights biggest liability is his lack of love of our "Special Friend" is ridiculous in light of the global lack of love of Israel, Zionism, and the past & present impact of Jewish Elites. Sentiments a large sector of Americans also believe - and they have a lot more votes than the Likudnik Jewish-Americans and Christian Zionists do.

Wright is right that we do not call criticizing China and it's policies "racist" even though any criticism is directed at the ethnic Chinese responsible for it. And he points out that a large segment of America hero-worships
Nelson Mandela, but when Mandela is asked to denounce Fidel Castro, Mandela says "no way" because Castro did more for black independence in S Africa than just about anyone and will remain honored. No simple guilt by association....

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Mortimer Brezny said...

Mort
You are ever the Obama optimist, I'll hand you that.


Nothing in my post is optimistic...?

1. I wrote guilt-by-association doesn't persuade me.

2. I wrote that giving it to Hillary for superdelegates is still very, very problematic for reasons unrelated to this story.

My honest opinion, which is not optimistic at all, is that the media is giving this so much play to complicate the race in Indiana, because an Obama loss in Indiana increases the chance of a brokered convention in Denver, which the press wants to cover. That is a very cynical and pessimistic point of view. But, no, this story does not suddenly lift Hillary out of the hole she is in or get superdelegates off the hook for giving it to her or, as Ann noted well, serve the long-term interests of the party. That's realism.

You just want to see Obama go down in flames, so you're reading that into this story. Since no flood of superdelegates is deciding this race prior to May 6th, what really matters is the outcome in Indiana.

Neither of us knows how this will factor into the Indiana outcome, which is up in the air.

Palladian said...

You're a racist pig, Cedarford. If Reverend Wright were running (and he weren't a "negro") you'd have your perfect candidate.

Mortimer Brezny said...

the spectre of a down-ticket disaster.

If Hillary was better for down-ticket races in red states, Obama would be bleeding red state supers that he has already nabbed. That hasn't happened.

vbspurs said...

Amongst the MANY insightful comments I wish to respond to, there is this one by Pogo:

And who exactly made him that color, except God? Is he God damning God as well?

Yeah, I didn't get his inference AT ALL, then. Can someone try to shed some light on it?

Is he, crazy hateful old fool that he is, actually BLAMING God for making him a black guy?

Or is it a shady reference to one of his ancestresses having been RAPED (he would say) by a white guy -- because, let's be honest, he's fairly light. Heck, he's even lighter than OBAMA, who is a true "mulato".

His other talking points, from Zionism to Farrakhan and the whole AIDs conspiracy theories -- well, that's the sadly "normal" rhetoric for many of the Left.

It's unnerving, disturbing, and nonsensical, but nothing we haven't heard before.

It's when he talks of race that he just sounds TOTALLY WHACKO.

As in "ouch cringe someone turn the sound off, sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach" whacko.

Cheers,
Victoria

Mortimer Brezny said...

You're a racist pig, Cedarford. If Reverend Wright were running (and he weren't a "negro") you'd have your perfect candidate.

That's what's so funny. Wright is the perfect example of how black voters are really conservative. Close your eyes and he sounds like Ron Paul.

Palladian said...

"Close your eyes and he sounds like Ron Paul."

The political spectrum isn't a straight line, it's a circle.

Mortimer Brezny said...

The political spectrum isn't a straight line, it's a circle.

Oh, I know. I tell my totalitarian liberal friends that all the time.

vbspurs said...
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Simon said...

Garage, they're waiting and hoping that the voters will to the dirty deed for them. If Clinton wins Indiana and does well enough in North Carolina, and thereafter keeps winning, that gives them cover to do what they want to do while pointing the finger at the electorate.

vbspurs said...

He's done terrible damage to Obama's campaign, and he either doesn't care or is to full of himself (without any justification for such pride) to know what he's done to the man who's supposed to be his friend.

Why WHY isn't someone in the Obama camp reigning this guy in?? Send him to Barbados on holiday again!

(You know, it's a weird feeling when one actually feels sorry for a candidate one doesn't like and will never vote for)

You know why I don't think they can control him? Because unlike Bill Clinton, there are few, especially white people in the Left who can tell an older black gentleman to keep quiet.

The whole ideology of Liberal American race politics is built on the opposite of that.

We're stuck with these shenanigans, because no one has the courage to be called a racist.

PatCA said...

garage,
Obama has money. Buckets of it. So all this "wooing" going on is, I'll give you money for your congressional campaign if you back me.

Mortimer Brezny said...

If Clinton wins Indiana and does well enough in North Carolina, and thereafter keeps winning, that gives them cover to do what they want to do while pointing the finger at the electorate.

There is actually little proof that that's what they want.

Hillary wants time. That means a brokered convention. No one else wants a brokered convention. The superdelegates have agreed to decide by the end of the voting so there is time for party unity.

If Hillary is behind in the popular vote and in the pledged delegates, you aren't going to see an override. That you might see one if Obama loses every remaining contest by 30% margins isn't proof of the superdelegate collective intent right now. That would mean an utter collapse of his campaign.

That hasn't happened yet, and looks unlikely to happen in the next contests. If Obama wins in Indiana and North Carolina, that possibility is over. Either one still has to win an unexpected state to win. In the upcoming races, for Clinton that means North Carolina and for Obama that means Indiana. So the real question is, "Can Obama put Clinton away in Indiana?"

That is quite different than your analysis would suggest, especially since almost no one thinks Clinton is competitive in North Carolina, and Obama is spending in Kentucky (with little chance of winning) to bust her bank for the Indiana and North Carolina races.

PatCA,
And the voter rolls. And the new voters. Ann detailed this. That's what she means by long-term interest of the party. The Clintons are the past, and that's not just rhetoric.

Sloanasaurus said...

I have a feeling that Obama will go out and denounce wright finally and completely, and the media will swoon over him - "what courage Barack has to denouce a black minister." To the all loving of Obama media, it will be Obama's sister soulja moment. Will the MSN will "forget" that Obama spent 20 years with him and his young kids listening to the same rants as tears rolled down his cheeks. But perhaps I am being too cynical.

20 years of pew sitting through anti-jew, anti american, and anti-white rhetoric with your kids at your side and tears running down your cheecks. It sounds a lot like the post racial reconciliation we have been hearing about. Yet people are actually considering nominating Obama.... unbelievable.

Mortimer Brezny said...

I'd also note that since Obama has an insurmountable pledged delegate lead, this is more about how one closes out the campaign. If Obama manages these issues well and continues winning where he needs to and narrowing margins (or winning) where he isn't expected to, he's in fine shape.

Revenant said...

And who exactly made him that color, except God?

White people. We made Africans black so we'd be able to tell who to give AIDS to.

Fen said...

Its a sphere not a circle, but yah.

Michael said...

Speaking of America-hating leftist associates of Obama, here's a documentary which includes, among other things, interviews with his old pals Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn:

The Weather Underground

Kirk Parker said...

Palladian,

I'm sticking by my theory that Cedarford is a leftist mole. It explains so much more...

Mortimer Brezny said...

And who exactly made him that color, except God?

The point may have been that color only matters because of the social construction of race, which is of European origin. Difference in and of itself doesn't mean anything.

Mortimer Brezny said...

As for what supers think:

http://www.mrsuper.org/

Zeb Quinn said...

It's reaching the point with Wright where people are actually going to be feeling sorry for Obama. It's almost as if he's a victim. Expect that next.

As for the superdelegates, barring something unforseen of monumental proportions, Obama simply can't be denied the nomination. To do so as it stands now would be much more destructive to the Dem party than would running Obama and losing by a landslide. They're stuck with him.

cubanbob said...

Wright was happy with Obama as long as he was the underdog. Good for his business. Now were he to win the nomination and on to the general the wheels would come off his race pimping and poverty hustling medicine show. Way too much money to lose. That is why the rat pack of Wright, Sharpton, Jackson and Farrakhan are doing their stand-up routine now. Barry is now becoming very bad for the industry. For the act to work he has to come this close to being the nominee but never the winner. Ruins the punchline if Barry wins the nomination and worse, the election. Close shave, now that is pure gold. And makes the ever so easily bribable Clinton's easier to deal with. You owe us and need us if want to have a prayer to win. Far from crazy they are shrewed businessmen who know their market exceedingly well.

Zionism is defined as the Jewish nationalist and liberation movement. Duscany why is that somehow more objectionable than the various Arab and African nationalisms? There 57 Islamic States are they also illegitimate?
Cedaford has no problem with white nationalism thats his thing, only with Jews being brazen enough to have a postage country of their own. Funny thing, in Latin America where Zionism is being derided as he states, it is primarily in the newly socialist and quasi communist states. Ties in with the new/old left and the new/old national socialism. Somethings never change.

john marzan said...

it sure shows obama's lack of judgment, no?

ballyfager said...

Anyone who thinks that Obama is toast had better reconsider the alternative.

Obama is the only thing that stands between Clinton and the White House. McCain simply won't beat her.

AllenS said...

The thought that superdelegates that are backing Obama, will stay with him solely because they have committed is wishful thinking. Two words: John Kerry.

Roger J. said...

I can only hope that Obama is the democratic nominee--which will make John McCain the luckiest guy in the world. The biggest losers out of this whole campaign are liberal democrats and their MSM stooges. In addition, the Clintons are going to have a payback list a mile long.
If the Dems dont nominate Hillary, they will be in the political wilderness for a long time.

Pogo said...

"The point may have been that color only matters because..."

It may have been. But how would anyone know that?

Or maybe it was a poorly constructed reference to the idea that Farrakhan didn't set blacks in in chains and sold into slavery, but white people did.

Fair enough. But neither did I or anyone alive today in the US (unless they came from certain Arab lands perhaps). My ancestors didn't get here until after the civil war. So big deal. I am totally off the hook, no?

And why doies Wright say "me"? Certainly he means not himself but black people in general, but the hubris of Wright inserting "me" as a stand-in for all blacks is audacious, arrogant, and heretically messianic.

Mortimer Brezny said...

It may have been. But how would anyone know that?

Because he said "different is not deficient" at least 48,987,566,332 times.

Pogo said...

"different is not deficient"
fits with
He did not put me in chains, he did not put me in slavery, and he didn't make me this color.
exactly how?

Face it, Wright strung a bunch of crap together and hoped it would make sense. Which apparently it does, but just to you.

former law student said...

How Wright makes sense:

White people
1. Set up the race classification system.
2. Put themselves on top.
3. Oppressed blacks from Day One.
4. Classified Wright as a black man.

God
1. Made Wright's skin a pleasing attractive shade of cafe au lait.
2. Made Wright quite a bit lighter than many desis, Filipinos, and citizens of Sicilian descent, in fact.

Fen said...

Because he said "different is not deficient" at least 48,987,566,332 times.

So I guess we can dust off The Bell Curve too.

Such a familiar pattern. "Sexual harassment in the workplace is wrong...unless its our guy" - p84, The Left Doesn't Really Believe In The Things They Lecture Us About

MadisonMan said...

If the Dems dont nominate Hillary, they will be in the political wilderness for a long time.

If you mean the Clintons -- and their ilk -- will be in the political wilderness for a long time if Obama is nominated, then I have to ask how that is a bad thing?

How long does Rev. Wright gaze in the mirror every day, I wonder? He strikes me as somewhat of a narcissist.

Original Mike said...

Somefeller said: I even thought it sounded like he was attacking the person who had the misfortune of being hired to screen questions from the crowd and ask them to him, but I may be mistaken on that, I didn't see the video of the conference.

You are not mistaken. I felt sorry for her.

Revenant said: Bah. I'm more of a Christian than Wright is, and I don't even believe in God.

I was thinking the same thing during his Press Club speech.

El Presidente said...

Schadenfreude is only pleasurable in small doses.