August 29, 2008

Sarah Palin, the VP pick! [ADDED: And the live-blog and profusion of comments continue here.]



10:25: Thought you'd like to see a picture. The handsome guy is her husband (and Bill Clinton's chief competition on the face of this earth for future First Gentleman).

And this post can be used for commenting on the [first] live-blog post, when the comments there hit 200 (and become hard to see).

10:30: Here's almost the whole family. (There's a new baby now.)



Wow. Beautiful. Including the mountain!

10:44: She named her kids Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper, and Trig. Does that seem like something a Commander in Chief would do? Why not? It's bold. Crisp.

10:47: In the comments, Sloanasaurus writes:
Palin is the common man's dream wife. Smart, accomplished, beautiful, was a sportscaster, loves to hunt and fish.

Perhaps Palin is the "post-feminist" woman. She competes in a mans world being governor of the largest state, but she can still be feminine (a mother and wife).

Hmmm... maybe Ann will have fun with this analysis.
It's not perfectly feminist, Sloan, but I understand what you mean, and I think it's something that will appeal to many of the swing voters. As a feminist, I love that she did not leverage herself into power through her husband and consider this an important improvement over Hillary.

10:53: David Gergen -- on CNN -- is saying the media thought McCain was going to make a "safe pick" and that it would be Pawlenty.

11:13: "We're the ones with a babe on the ticket," says Rush Limbaugh, who's been enthusing about the "inspired," "brilliant" choice. "Alaska is about as far away from Washington as you can get."

11:17: McCain comes out. The music is "Right Now."

11:18: Big cheers. "Happy Birthday" signs make him say "Thanks for reminding me," which is an old-guy response to "Happy Birthday." Really big cheers. He's glad to announce in Dayton, where people are "hard-working" and "honest." He's picking up what was the biggest theme of the Democratic convention: Fighting for hard-working people. He wants to "shake up Washington." He's found "the right partner to help me stand up to those who value their privileges over their responsibilities, who put power over principle, and put their interests before your needs."

11:24: He's found someone who's stood up to special interests, he says, fought against government spending, and has executive experience. A huge cheer comes when he says Palin's parents were both coaches who "raised their children to excel at sports."

11:28: She's been a union member and her husband is a union member. "In the week we celebrate the anniversary of women's suffrage," she's a "devoted wife and a mother of five." She's got the "grit, integrity, good sense and devotion to the common good" we need today. She doesn't let anyone tell her to "sit down." (Is that a reference to something? Did someone tell Hillary to "sit down"?)

11:31: Here she is, in a dark, skirted suit. (No pantsuit.) Behind her, a daughter is holding the new baby. Palin is wearing a HUGE, glittering flag pin. She's got that trademark hairdo. (Want to wear that hairdo? I'm going to be looking around on campus to see if any of the young women are wearing their hair in the Palin style. If you see me, let me take your picture!)

11:33: She introduces the hunky hubby Todd. And it's their 20th anniversary, and she said she was going to give him a little surprise. He's a fisherman. He's a world-class snow-mobile racer. Four of her children are there with her. The 5th, Track, enlisted in the Army last September 11th. This September 11th, he's deploying to Iraq. McCain won't talk about his sons in Iraq. He's made a principle of it... one that she obviously doesn't share. A "U.S.A." chant. She introduces the kids that are there, including Trig, "a beautiful baby boy."

11:31: She's speaking extremely well, and she's presenting herself as a McCain-style maverick. She seems like his perfect counterpart. She enumerates achievements in Alaska that involve taking "risks" and "challenging the status quo." She rejected "the Bridge to Nowhere." Now, she's praising McCain extremely well, and he's fiddling with his wedding ring, a reflex married people often have. Her speech is amazingly clear and strong, passionate and devoid of any hesitation or filler "uhs." The sign on the lectern reads "Country First." It's fitting, she says, that this privilege of running with McCain has been given to her almost 88 years after women got the right to vote. She wants to honor Geraldine Ferraro, the first (and up until now the only) female, major-party VP pick and Hillary Clinton, who "showed such determination in her presidential campaign." Palin loves to point her index finger and jab it about, a gesture that you don't see that often in a politician anymore and that you almost never see done with a pointy polished fingernail. It's especially striking as she talks about Hillary and urges us to join her cause.

11:49: Wow! Great performance! Fabulous first walk onto the national stage!

11:51: On the radio, Limbaugh calls the speech "magnificent." "Her story is real." She doesn't have to "put any holes" in her story the way Obama does. He's been emphasizing that we should be comparing Palin not to Biden, but to Obama. Biden and McCain are more comparable as long-experienced Senators, and she, as a relatively inexperienced outsider who would be a first, is more comparable to Obama. "Middle America is going to love her. She lives their values." He speculates on questions she'll be asked -- about how to shoot a gun, whether she baits her own fishing hooks, and if, when she found out her unborn baby had Down Syndrome, she considered an abortion "before or after it was born."

12:05: I see we're getting up close to 200 comments again, so I'm going to put up an new post, so please spill over there.

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The Drill SGT said...

Puts ANWR back in play and highlights the Dems politically untenable position here. (McCain will have to cooperate by changing his position, look for him to change his position based on advice from his new VP.)

doesn't have to flip on ANWR. the better move is to say drill now, we can all agree on that, then lets take up a discussion on ANWR

KLDAVIS said...

" Michael said...

Does anybody here actually believe this woman should be on heartbeat away from being President of the United States?"

Now, substitute Obama for Palin, and delete "on [sic] heartbeat away from being" and you see why this was the perfect choice...every word you said is twice as effective against your ticket as it is against ours.

former law student said...

Down's baby into this world? That's asking for a life of pain and suffering. Most people aren't rich like she is and Uncle Sam ends up by picking up the tab for the special care and education a retarded child requires.

I think this exaggerates the sadness of Down's syndrome. There was a Down's kid a year behind me in school. His only distinguishing characteristic, other than his facial features, was that he seldom spoke. We didn't have special ed at my school, so he must have been mainstreamed -- we did have dumb kids. He only lived to be 19, but that was true of other guys in my neighborhood, too.

mrs whatsit said...

trumpit, I know it's not worth arguing with you, but I must say that in addition to proving up-thread that you don't know any hunters, you have now proven that you also don't know any people with Down's Syndrome. Nobody who does would have any difficulty choosing which -- the person with Down's or you -- could do more with a life.

Unknown said...

Why do you admire her for knowingly, willingly bringing a Down's baby into this world? That's asking for a life of pain and suffering.

Well, if an idiot like you had a Down's baby I'd be fearful for you both, that's for sure. But for parents with the right attitude it can be a joyful experience for all concerned.

MadisonMan said...

Republicans don't have a lot of good news to discuss at the convention.

I agree. I think it'll be interesting to see when Palin news is eclipsed by Gustav news. The imminent landfall of a hurricane just after a big speech by a President who's reputation took a HUGE ding by a hurricane is rich in irony. God loves irony.

vbspurs said...

MCG! Thanks for the reminder.

I gave a little somethin somethin to McCain last night, but I promised myself to give him $250 if Palin got selected.

And you can pay via PayPal!

(Wow, it is taking FOREVER to load. I think the link is overloaded at the moment, woo)

Here is the McCain-Palin contribution link.

For the sake of fairness, Obama-Biden.

GO Johnny and Sarah!

Will said...

Did I just here a CNN talking head wonder how she could care for her children and be VP?

Cedarford said...

If McCain defends Palin as "ready to lead", he just took the matter of Obama's lack of experience off the table.

Team Axelrod, and their pawn Obambi may be concerned that their Hillary diss may backfire with women as fired up as when Geraldine was announced back in 1984 as the blue-collar hero of ethnics and the voice of "women roaring".

But have to be happy that McCain basically conceeded that Obama has the experience and resume` level McCain has shown he thinks is "good enough" to be President or a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

And, like Hillary, Mitt Romney now is expected to campaign loyally, while hoping that their respective Party tickets goes down so they have a chance in 2012.

Mortimer Brezny said...

Is it sexist to make fun of the fact that McCain brought up her position as a point guard during high school when he talked about the resume?

That's what I meant by a parody. McCain is Obamafying his campaign. It's corny.

Unknown said...

Does anybody here actually believe this woman should be on heartbeat away from being President of the United States?

Oh, this is fantastic. PLEASE, DEMS, KEEP MAKING THIS ARGUMENT. OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

The Drill SGT said...

Why don't we ever see the Mccain's black kid?

Because the McCain's don't pimp their kids for political points.

recently somebody asked John about why he didn't mention that both sons are in the military. His reply with a bit of a growl: "We don't talk about the kids"

vbspurs said...

Guys, it's at 212 now. I'm taking a little time off to celebrate, calm down, and get a better hold of this momentous occasion.

Catch you later!

Roger J. said...

Trumpit continues to prove that progressives are all about compassion.

Zaplito said...

Poor Keith and Chris Mattobie.

I'll bet you she eats Biden's lunch in a debate.

Brilliant move.

Gets some of the Libertarian/Lesbian vote too.

See:
http://www.girlinshortshorts.blogspot.com/

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

More Hillary theater....

I want to come over
To hell with the consequence
You told me you loved me
Thats all I believe
I want to come over
Its a need I cant explain
To see you again
I want to come over

I know your friend
You told her about me
She filled you with fear
Some kind of sin
How can you turn
Denying the fire
Lover I burn
Let me in.

Host with the Most said...

Lawgiver:

Comment of the day. award

Roberto said...

"Two years as a governor trumps four years as a senator."

"She has more experience than Obama and Biden put together."

Really?

Obama: A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, he served as president of the Harvard Law Review, worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He also taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. He delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004, and was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.

Biden: He became a senator in 1973 at age 30, the fifth-youngest senator in U.S. history. He has served as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, dealing with issues related to drug policy, crime prevention, and civil liberties. He is the current chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee.

He serves on the following committees: Committee on Foreign Relations (chairman) - Committee on the Judiciary - Subcommittee on Antitrust Competition Policy and Consumer Rights - Subcommittee on Crime and Drugs (chairman) - Subcommittee on Human Rights and the Law - Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Refugees - Subcommittee on Technology Terrorism and Homeland Security - Caucus on International Narcotics Control (co-chairman)

Zaplito said...

Poor Keith and Chris Mattobie.

Brilliant move.

Even gets some of the lesbian/libertarian vote.
See;
http://www.girlinshortshorts.blogspot.com/

Roger J. said...

One of the CNN info studs did, in fact, wonder how a woman with five kids could have time to be president. Wonder how JFK managed it? Liberals are such sexists--as I think this campaign will increasingly demostrate. Already did with Ms Clinton; and Paliln is a REAL feminist who has done it on her own. Is this the 4th wave?

Sloanasaurus said...

Palin herself may find the "everywoman" biographical glow fade fast if she flubs and shows she is a complete babe out of the woods on foreign policy or the economy.

Ceder, you are right about the risks with Palin, especially the inexperience (although she has more experience than Obama being freshman senator is nothing compared to being the executive of a state even with a small population).

However, she is only running for vice-president.

Politically Palin is a brilliant pick. McCain doesn't need any more experience, he needs excitement!

Roberto said...

"Two years as a governor trumps four years as a senator."

"She has more experience than Obama and Biden put together."

Really?

Obama: A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, he served as president of the Harvard Law Review, worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He also taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. He delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004, and was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.

Biden: He became a senator in 1973 at age 30, the fifth-youngest senator in U.S. history. He has served as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, dealing with issues related to drug policy, crime prevention, and civil liberties. He is the current chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee.

He serves on the following committees: Committee on Foreign Relations (chairman) - Committee on the Judiciary - Subcommittee on Antitrust Competition Policy and Consumer Rights - Subcommittee on Crime and Drugs (chairman) - Subcommittee on Human Rights and the Law - Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Refugees - Subcommittee on Technology Terrorism and Homeland Security - Caucus on International Narcotics Control (co-chairman)

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Anonymous said...

Trust me. This is not a winning argument for the left beyond a few urban areas.

Nothing will fire up the Evangelical base more than attacking Palin on this issue.

Go, lefties, go!

Roberto said...

Sorry about the double posting.

Revenant said...

And to put the icing on the cake, the official report on it is due at the end of October, just in time for the general election. How could John McCain screw up something this big, this badly?

It is only a screw-up if she's guilty. The smart money says she isn't.

Roger J. said...

Michael: you are aware that the important distinction in your cut and paste bios is that Palin has more EXECUTIVE experience--and last I looked the president is called the chief EXECUTIVE--see the difference? Of course you do, you just can bring yourself to admit it.

Trumpit said...

My father used to say that a woman shouldn't be president because of her mood swings caused by hormones related to menstruation. Wouldn't McBush have been better off to pick a sexy post-menopausal gal, like Gene Kirkpatrick? She even looks and sounds like a man. She probably even has hair on her chest.

Anonymous said...

So here is Obama's entire record in politics, then, from the mouth of his supporters:

Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004.

Delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004

Elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote (over a crazy guy from another state)


That's absurd.

former law student said...

I'm thinking that her eyeglasses give her that "deer in headlights" startled look. I would try some with solid frames.

Trumpit said...

Yes, where in the Constitution does it say that the VP must be alive? McBush looks dead to me.

Anonymous said...

Leftist anti-feminism is really humorous to me.

Revenant said...

Obama: A graduate of Columbia University [yadda yadda yadda]

Yes, yes. We know that you're extremely impressed with Obama's credentials. The fact remains that he's never run anything bigger than his own election staff, which is why I said that experience as a governor -- and, for that matter, a mayor -- trumps it.

Roberto said...

I realize most here are doing their best to support this selection, but someone please explain why McCain would negate his primary positive; his personal international experience, by selecting a running mate that carries the same kind of gravitas or at the very least, a firm background in economics?

Sarah Palin has been the Governor of a small state for less than two years, has absolutely no international experience, no national economic experience, no constitutional law experience and literally no experience on the national political stage.

This brings to mind, Bush Sr.'s choice of Dan Quayle, although I can't imagine Palin possibly being that dumb.

nrn312 said...

Down 9 to 10 bottom of the 10th, McCain hits a lead off triple to deep right field.

It's still August.

Ron said...

Where are the swimsuit competition pics of the 1984 Miss Alaska runner-up? Can we send them to Imadinnerjacket in Iran to remind him of whose lacquered nail may be on the button someday?

Will Tina Fey play her in the biopic?

Anonymous said...

no constitutional law experience

That's a good one. I mean, really. That's hilarious, man.

Instapundit 2008! He's got constitutional law experience.

Peter Hoh said...

Host, Trumpit certainly doesn't speak for me, and I don't know too many Democrats/liberals/whatever who would put their name behind sentiments like that.

I suspect that Trumpit is merely trying to raise hackles. And may even be a conservative trying to present a caricature of a liberal.

Anonymous said...

I suspect that Trumpit is merely trying to raise hackles.

Deft understatement. Are you British by chance?

Anonymous said...

Instapundit 2008! He's got constitutional law experience.

Nah, but I would vote for Dr. Helen!

TmjUtah said...

I'd rather see Palin as president than Biden, if it came to that.

She doesn't have thirty years of foreign policy mistakes to overcome.

And we are going to need good leadership. Not a hair club alumni owned by credit card companies.

Great election we have all of a sudden, isn't it?

bearbee said...

dcpi said...
Just occurred to me: Alaska is the only state the borders Russia. Putin is her neighbor!

Aug. 19: Russian bombers off Alaska

Original Mike said...

I've been out of the office. Can anybody provide me a link to the video of her accptance speech.

Roberto said...

"The fact remains that he's never run anything bigger than his own election staff..."

And of course, that far from the truth.

As a State Senator:

1. Helped create legislation reforming ethics and health care laws

2. Sponsored laws increasing tax credits for low-income workers.

3. Helped negotiate welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare.

4. He was chairman of the Illinois Senate's Health and Human Services Committee.

And that was only as a State Senator.

Now, run Palin's experience as Governor by everybody so we can compare organizational and management credentials.

Anonymous said...

She looks great in a flight suit.

Roberto said...

seven: Are you actually saying you don't think having Constitutional Law experience might be a valuable asset for a President?

Are you familiar with any of the Founding Fathers of this country?

I appreciate your comments, but try to at least be reasonably honest.

Simon said...

Eli Blake said...
"his specific choice shows stunningly poor judgement."

Eli, keep whistling past that graveyard. McCain has destroyed any post-convention bounce Obama might have hoped for, destroyed any interest in what Obama said last night, and created a ticket that at once unifies and enthuses his base and reaches out to moderates and independents. Team Obama just got assfucked on every cable news station and you think it shows poor judgment by McCain?

Simon said...

Honestly, Eli, what frickin' planet are you living on?

Anonymous said...

organizational and management credentials.

You're kidding, right? There is a world of difference between running a legislative committee and running a state.

Legislators pass laws, but they don't have to make anything work. They pass a law, pat themselves on the back for a job well done, and then expect others to do the difficult work of implementing the legislation.

Governors (and mayors) actually have to make it all work.

Simon said...

Michael said...
"seven: Are you actually saying you don't think having Constitutional Law experience might be a valuable asset for a President?"

It is, but Obama doesn't have any either. He taught a seminar on very limited corner of rights conlaw. So not even real conlaw. Rights are glamorous, but that's not what the Constitution's fundamentally about.

Joe said...

Just to clarify; Trumpit is against hunting wild animals, but for infanticide.

(This pretty much answers the question: are liberals complete assholes?)

Trumpit said...

Are you all forgetting that McBush is old enough to die in office from old age or a heart attack. Is she really prepared to be president of these united states. Of course not!!

EnigmatiCore said...

"Really?

Obama: A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, he served as president of the Harvard Law Review, worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He also taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. He delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004, and was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote."

So, yes, she has more experience than Obama.

Biden has more experience than her, though, even though she does have more executive experience than him.

Trumpit said...

Obama just got assfucked on every cable news station and you think it shows poor judgment by McCain?
-Simple Simon

And someone said I say things in poor taste. Meet Simon.

Unknown said...
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Roberto said...

simon says: "Obama just got assfucked on every cable news station and you think it shows poor judgment by McCain?"

Do you have some kind of dish network that brings in news from sources other than the major networks?

I've listened to Fox, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, and CNN and a preponderance of opinion is that there is a great deal of confusion, not from the left, but from the Republicans.

Obama is on the front page of every national newspaper in the country right now, and all of your silly comments will do little to diminish his speech, the convention, and the truly strange selection of Sarah Palin as a running mate.

Simon said...

Trumpit said...
"Are you all forgetting that McBush is old enough to die in office from old age or a heart attack. Is she really prepared to be president of these united states."

That isn't the issue. The issue is whether she's more prepared to be President than Obama, or Biden for that matter. The answer to that is patently obvious: "yes."

Roberto said...

EnigmatiCore: You post Obama's exceptional and vast educational and work experience as if it means nothing, then follow up by saying Palin is more experienced?

What in the world are you basing that on?

She has an undergraduate degree in Journalism, and about 6 years of experience in local and state politics.

Simon said...

Michael,
Congratualtions, he made the front page of a dying media format whose circulation is small and dwindling, and most of which are already in the tank for him. Meanwhile, every cable news network and virtually every MSM online presence, to say nothing of the blogosphere, has been focussing primarily on the McCain veep pick all morning.

Tonight, on the evening news, I think you'll see Obama merit a mention for his response to the Palin pick, and not a word about that failure of a speech he gave last night (it rallied the troops, but he had no need to rally the troops; he needed to reach out beyond them, and he just failed to do so). So McCain has entirely taken the limelight off of Obama, and any post-convention bounce that Obama might have expected will be more than matched by the bounce McCain will get from this superb pick that some of us have been arguing for for weeks.

Roberto said...

simon, you really think that Palin would be more qualified to be President than Obama and Biden?

Based on what criteria?

*And leave out being a Republican as the basic foundation of your argument.

Simon said...

Michael said...
"She has ... about 6 years of experience in local and state politics."

All of it executive, as compared to Obama's about zero years of experience that's relevant for the job he wants.

Roberto said...

Simon,
I don't want to get into a pissing contest, but Obama is still on the front page of the internet versions of the newspapers, too.

The Palin story is big because it's the latest news to hit, and of course, because she is such a bizarre selection.

*I suggest you call a few of your Republican friends as I have and ask them what they think. Mine are in a state of shock.

Simon said...

Michael said...
"simon, you really think that Palin would be more qualified to be President than Obama and Biden? Based on what criteria?"

Legislators talk. Executives do. Your comment above tries to elide that basic problem by boosting the level of generality: you imply that Obama has experience in "national politics" whereas Palin only has experience in "state politics." But politics is an abstraction that masks what is actually being done; a lobbyist has experience in Washington politics, too, but that isn't a qualification for the Presidency. People become qualified for the Presidency by doing - experience in the military, as diplomats, as executives of various stripes - most commonly, as Governors.

Moreover, I think you're being artificial if you want to leave politics out of it. No one just wants a "competent" President; it's a necessary but not sufficient qualification. Competency allows you to accomplish things, and people want competency because they want their President to accomplish things. What those things are that they want accomplished, and that competence will allow a candidate to accomplish, are defined by politics. Even if I thought Biden were particularly competent, I would still be much happier with Palin as President than Biden because I think that what Biden would try to do, competently vel non, is profoundly bad for our country.

Roberto said...

Simon:

Obama (and this is just as a State Senator):

1. Helped create legislation reforming ethics and health care laws

2. Sponsored laws increasing tax credits for low-income workers.

3. Helped negotiate welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare.

4. He was chairman of the Illinois Senate's Health and Human Services Committee.

Which of these would not include executive oversight, organizational skills, and negotiating skills?

Try to at least be reasonably honest.

Marcus said...

Enigmat,

I don't know you from freakin' Adam, but I guarantee you have never been in the military, as evidenced by your ignorance of the fact that McCain had extensive executive experience in the military. You DO know he ran a fighter squadron, right?

Anonymous said...

"she has more executive experience than McCain too."

Correct.

Not correct. O-3 through O-5 are considered middle management in the military. O-6 and above senior management. The training and skills are similar, if not superior, to those of civilian counterparts. Level of responsibility is often greater. Ignorance is no longer an excuse, Pookie.

Unknown said...

Want to compare her SAT scores to Obama's? Think she even broke 1000? I doubt it.

And now we know that Ann has gone over the edge - she called her husband "handsome". Do straight women really have that bad taste in men? Sorry - he's called "fat" in the gay community.

Original Mike said...

you really think that Palin would be more qualified to be President than Obama and Biden?

More qualified than Biden? No.
More qualified than Obama? Yes.

And therein lies the rub.

Unknown said...

This WILL win over women voters though, because women are stupid and will vote for someone just because of their gender.

So this was a SMART pick.

Anonymous said...

Earth to libtards:

Obama/Biden are toast.

That is all. Go about your pathetic lives now.

Roberto said...

38,000 Americans watched Obama's speech.

MOST EVER.

Anonymous said...

On ANWR:

No one is really talking about drilling in ANWR. There was a set-aside made back during the Carter administration for a costal area (adjacent to the refuge) that was specifically excluded from the refuge and intended for oil exploration and production. "Drilling in ANWR" is a Democratic/media smokescreen, and basically a lie when it is presented as "destroying a pristine wildlife sanctuary".

For libtards:

Drilling good. ANWR OK. That is all.

Simon said...

Michael, you keep citing things he's done as a legislator even after I've made it abundantly clear that - at least in my view, and I'm hardly idiosyncratic in this regard - legislative experience doesn't count. The answer to your question is that none of you examples provide executive experience, and nor could they because they are quintessentially legislative.

Simon said...

I'm not running down legislators, by the way, or suggesting that they're bad people or that they aren't competent. I'm saying that veterinarians are terrifically useful people who may well be very talented, and it's no slight on them to say that a vet isn't qualified by that experience to be a mechanic.

Simon said...

Michael said...
"38,000 Americans watched Obama's speech. MOST EVER."

So what? A lot more than that watch American Idol, but that doesn't mean that they're going to vote for Paula for President. And here's the thing, Michael: the next day, people are usually still talking about what happened on Idol. Your man held a smaller audience's attention for a shorter period of time than a karaoke content. Boy, that's got to feel good.

rosebud said...

Michael said...

38,000 Americans watched Obama's speech.

MOST EVER.

So...not even everyone in the stadium watched?

Roberto said...

rosebud, HA! HA!

Nice to see you're reading my comments.

85,000 at the stadium

38,000,000 Americans nationwide.

Roberto said...

simon says: "legislative experience doesn't count."

Oh, okay.

What you really mean is this: If it's a Democrat, it doesn't count, right?

All of the experience McCain sites as a...legislator...suddenly means nada?

You're too easy, simon. Be more honest.

Roberto said...

Original Mike, you underestimate Mr. Obama.

We'll see.

rcocean said...

We need more talk about Creationism.

The most important issue for POTUS is HS biology curriculum. Next to "evolution", Defense, Foreign Policy, Immigration, trade, and budget pale in comparison.

BTW, whats her position on the theory of Relativity?

Peter Hoh said...

I've been listening to Palin here and I am impressed.

Roberto said...

peter: "I've been listening to Palin here and I am impressed."

If she's so impressive, why haven't we heard about her before this morning?

And someone tell me if this is really the very best and most qualified Republican, man or woman, McCain could come up with.

My guess: There are plenty of very qualified Republicans out there that are seething at the selection.

Ernst Stavro Blofeld said...

Widespread rumor is that the kids were named based on where they were conceived. Piper is their plane, Bristol Bay, etc. No one has figured out Trig yet. Math class?

Anonymous said...

Is Obama the most qualified person that Democrats could come up with?

But anyway, please, yes, let's keep talking about qualifications. Let's make that the centerpiece of the election.

Fen said...

Mort: The problem is that she really isn't ready for prime time.

She's closer to it than Obama, your nom for President.

As that realization sweeps across America, Obama's numbers will tank.

Don't you see it?

Geneius91 said...

Best case scenario, Bush, McCain, Palin(who?)

Worst case scenario, Bush, McCain,
Palin(who?

Anonymous said...

Bristol Palin is like her mother, a Whore who can't keep her legs together.

Rickie, Domestic Goddess said...

I am so excited to see Sarah Palin as our new VP. (Plus, I feel so wrong to as what shade of lipstick she wears..I have her coloring and LOVE it.)

More importantly, I just can't wait to see how this ticket will stir things up for the better!!!!

fav.or.it said...

Back on Track:

http://www.zimbio.com/Track+Palin/polls/1/
Its a huge mistake, sending him off to Iraq. McCain/Palin will need every vote they can get in the swing states.

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