September 18, 2008

"And John McCain either doesn't know who the Prime Minister of Spain is, thinks Spain is a country in Latin America, or possibly both."

Writes Josh Marshall (about this interview).
After the interviewer presses him a couple times on the point and tries to focus him on the fact that Prime Minister Zapatero isn't from Mexico and isn't a drug lord either McCain comes back at her saying, "All I can tell you is that I have a clear record of working with leaders in the Hemisphere that are friends with us and standing up to those who are not. And that's judged on the basis of the importance of our relationship with Latin America and the entire region."

Then there's a moment of awkward pause before she says. "But what about Europe? I'm talking about the President of Spain."

McCain: "What about me, what?["]

Interviewer: "Are you willing to meet with him if you're elected president?"

McCain: "I am wiling to meet with any leader who is dedicated to the same principles and philosophy that we are for humans rights, democracy and freedom. And I will stand up to those who do not."

At this point, the interviewer gets tongue-tied presumably because she can't get over McCain not knowing what Spain is.
I've listened to the audio, and what Marshall is missing is that when the interviewer says "But what about Europe?" it sounds as though she says "But what about you?" That's why McCain says "What about me, what?"

There's not as easy an explanation for why McCain is unresponsive about Spain initially, but goes back to the previous subject of Latin America and goes on about Mexico. It's impossible to believe that McCain doesn't know where Spain is. But it is possible that he didn't recognize the name Zapatero or doesn't know enough about the country to want to say anything coherent about it. It seems more likely that he was getting tired of the interview or finding the interviewer a little hard to understand, and he was just trying to get to the end and it showed.

UPDATE: First, please note that my comment above isn't meant to completely absolve McCain. I have taken a vow of cruel neutrality. I say what I think regardless of whose ox is gored. Now, here's the update: WaPo reports:
McCain foreign policy adviser Randy Sheunemann said McCain's answer was intentional.

"The questioner asked several times about Senator McCain's willingness to meet Zapatero (and id'd him in the question so there is no doubt Senator McCain knew exactly to whom the question referred). Senator McCain refused to commit to a White House meeting with President Zapatero in this interview," he said in an e-mail....

Asked to explain McCain's apparent shift in tone and position since April, Scheunemann gave almost no ground.

"In this week's interview, Senator McCain did not rule in or rule out a White House meeting with President Zapatero, a NATO ally," he said in an e-mail. "If elected, he will meet with a wide range of allies in a wide variety of venues but is not going to spell out scheduling and meeting location specifics in advance. He also is not going to make reckless promises to meet America's adversaries. It's called keeping your options open, unlike Senator Obama, who has publicly committed to meeting some of the world's worst dictators unconditionally in his first year in office."
In other words, bumbling as it sounds, he meant to do that.

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Bob said...

McCain needs to take a lesson from Bambi and get a teleprompter. Or just have a laptop with wireless and Google the answer. People, can we focus on the important stuff...

PS, and how many of you are thinking about your password's strength tonight?

Peter V. Bella said...

Juan Valdez or the donkey.

Hoosier Daddy said...

Hoosier, name a single "white" candidate...ever...that's been referred to as "exotic."

Well lets see...you know, I can't do it.

Evidently you're the only on on the planet who just doesn't get it.

No I get it, I really do. Work with me on this. I may be able to talk you down. The Webster's definition of exotic is as follows:

1. of foreign origin or character; not native; introduced from abroad, but not fully naturalized or acclimatized: exotic foods; exotic plants.
2. strikingly unusual or strange in effect or appearance: an exotic hairstyle.

See now white bred folks like me who still constitute the large majority of the US demographic for the most part don't have exotic names. Many are Anglo-Saxon in origin. Even most black people have Anglo-Saxon surnames. Nearly every Presidential candidate in this nation has been white and have standard Anglo-Saxon names like Bill Clinton. Ronald Reagan. Abraham Lincoln. See what I mean? Nothing out of the ordinary there. Now lets take Arnold Schwarzenegger for example. That would be an exotic name. Lets say a white guy named Fernando Lamas was running. That would be an exotic name. If say a Korean American named Ju Win Tao ran for President, some might say he has an exotic name because referring back to Websters, those are names that are out of the mainstream of our demographic makeup. Now perhaps in say, 20 years at the current rate of illegal immigration, my name will be exotic because the majority will be Torres, Gonzalez, Lopez, Sanchez etc.

This getting through to you? It is not a black thing. If Obama changed his name to Tyrone Julius Washington he would no longer have an exotic name. If he changed it to Barry Harold Orlando, it wouldn't be exotic.

Now run along and play nice with everyone else.

Joe said...

For the rest, taxes on investments would remain unchanged.

To be clear, capital gains are the result of selling what?

Removing the death tax on real estate, which many people see as an investment, is unchanged how?

Peter V. Bella said...

Two community organizers are walking through the hood...

Hey, thats insensitive!!!

Joe said...
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Joe said...

Obama does support a cap-and-trade policy that would raise the costs of electricity...

Obama proposed a rebate of up to $1,000 per family to defray increased heating oil costs, funded by what he calls a windfall profits tax on oil companies.


Oh, that's right, on your planet taxing companies that produce goods doesn't actually affect the price of those goods. Gee, why don't we just tax oil and electric companies 100% of their profits? Okay, 90%--gotta give them a little effort for their pure greed.

George M. Spencer said...

Michael--

re: your comment about McCain being 5th from the bottom at his class in Annapolis. The guy at the bottom is called the "Anchorman."

There's a new book out "Last in Their Class" about how a lot of these "Goats," academic misfits at West Point, turned out to be stellar leaders...well, maybe except for Jefferson Davis.

Also, tells about the painter Whistler and Edgar Allen Poe who both got thrown out. Whistler was too busy drawing to study, and Poe? A "slovenly, heedless boy, very erratic, inclined to dissipation, and, of course, preferred making verses to solving equations.”

Remember Jimmy Carter was 59th in his class.

Hoosier Daddy said...

Two community organizers are walking through the hood...

Well I saw our self described community organizers who 3 times a week walk the streets of our fair city distributing ham sandwhiches, chips and other forms of sustenance to our homeless.

Now if they'd actually organize getting them off the street, cleaning them up and finding them jobs that 10 million illegal immigrants don't seem to have difficulty obtaining, then I'd say they were organizing something.

Then again, as Palin said, that would mean having some responsibilities.

vbspurs said...

woo-hoo, can't wait for your re-cap.

Thanks, Knox! Turns out the Miami homepage might've been wrong, maybe on purpose.

There are no tix to the event, thus they are not sold out. It's first come, first served.

I just spoke to a waitress when I was taking out my food, who is a U of M student (I knew that before, hence I brought Obama up now).

She was very jealous I was going, especially since I told her I am for McCain/Palin. ;)

So we'll see. She said her classmate is going to make the queue at 7 AM. The doors open on 11:45 AM.

If that's the case, I probably won't get in...but I'll hang around taking in the atmosphere.

Cheers,
Victoria

Peter V. Bella said...

Well, we finall have established that no one knows who the president/prime minister of Spain is, whatever he is his name sounds like Spanish for shoes, and no one really cares except the whacko lunalefts.

Hoosier Daddy said...

Well, we finall have established that no one knows who the president/prime minister of Spain is,

Like hell I don't. Its Geraldo Rivera.

And with that, I bid you adios.

Anonymous said...

Hoosier, name a single "white" candidate...ever...that's been referred to as "exotic."

Mary Carey

Roberto said...

How many here have heard the entire tape?

You can beat this to death, but McCain appears to be very confused.

Roberto said...

i love every second of this.

i post literally anything, wait...and the insanity commences.

on another thread i posted "the man and the sea"...and sea what happened there.

this is like shooting big fat fish in a barrel...and palin would say.

very funny.

Roberto said...

Hoosier, throw out whatever makes you feel better, but we both know what YOU mean when you say "exotic."

I grew up in the MIdwest and I've heard it all.

Racism is indeed a difficult belief to defend.

Peter V. Bella said...

I grew up in the MIdwest and I've heard it all.

Racism is indeed a difficult belief to defend.


So, now we know why you hate European Americans. You are a Midwestern racist.

Roberto said...

...You Know It's A Really Bad Week When Your Running Mate Calls It Her Administration...

Palin/McCain...

Hoosier Daddy said...

I grew up in the MIdwest and I've heard it all.

Racism is indeed a difficult belief to defend.


Lucky, honestly, I really don't give a shit if you think I'm a racist. I've been called worse and by better people than you and they were assholes too. The fact that you think Midwesterners are all racists now pretty much shows me where your prejudices are.

You have certainly demonstrated that you can change your nickname but you're still the same troll you were before. Enjoy living in your fever swamp. You're on ignore from now on.

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