But there's another improvement, the main improvement I've been hoping for. When the comments go over 200, they will appear on the post page once you add a comment. You won't have to click to comment and then click "newer." There is a downside, which is that you have to actually post a comment to see more than 200 comments.
ADDED: Oh, no, there's a problem. You have to post to see the comments beyond 200, but then you only see the comments on the group of 200 comments that your post fits, and then it's hard to see how you can ever get to any sets of 200 comments in between the first and the last. I don't think Blogger is thinking about posts that get more than 200 comments. How often does that happen (other than by some disastrous accumulation of spam)?
IN THE COMMENTS: AJ Lynch says:
It's very possible the new format will work fine for those posts done after the format change was introduced. Capiche?
Ah! I hope so. Quick, post a whole lot of comments here so we can find out. Post anything to get it up over 200 so with can test this theory.
UPDATE: Well, we pushed this up over 200 as a test, and, sadly, the news is bad. You won't see the over-200 comments unless you post, and at that point, you will only see the comments in the group of 200 to which your comment belongs. O, Blogger, why do you torment me this way?
UPDATE 2: Here's Blogger's explanation of the new function, recently moved out of Blogger Beta:
The embedded comment form is more convenient for your readers because they can use it to post a comment immediately, without clicking over to a different page. It also looks better, since it matches your blog’s style and colors.That's true, but unfortunately, the problems we've encountered going beyond 200 comments make this unworkable for me. Fortunately, I can now see that this is an option, and going into "settings," I was able to go back to the old style.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 429 Newer› Newest»Ah ha, use the subscriber email feature and click on "post comment" link!
Strange and not desirable!
Oh, no. It didn't work!
Oh, sadness! Sorrow!!!
Damn!!
After all that, I'm finding it hard to post a comment longer than one line. I feel as though everything should be broken up into tiny pieces.
Thanks to all who helped perform this experiment. Sorry the outcome is not joyous.
I dig the Subscribe feature though. That's a big plus.
But the impossibility of managing 200+ comments--yeah, that's bad. People tell me that Haloscan commenting is good and can be integrated into Blogger, but I don't have experience with it.
Sorry the outcome is not joyous.
So it goes. Happy to help test.
Phils win 3-2!!
Yes! But another example of very poor software quality control and quality management on the part of web based software development shops!
What we need is either better systems analysis and design or better QA testing or perhaps all of the above. My vote if for the latter option!
Of course, criticizing Google's software is potentially dangerous to one's well-being! pity!
So it's worse??!
Programmers suck.
Ann, you are quite the charmer to get these men to do your bidding!
I have to post to see comments over 200???
Does it work?
Hey, hey - lets not trash the programmers or you'll be finding yourself in some overflow heap.
It worked!
I can go back to lurking. :)
I take it that Althouse's "when I should have been engaged in this" at 10:54 was number 200?
Must have been, now I see the new ones but not the older ones. And the un-editable preview: what's the point of that? This should have stayed in beta a bit longer.
Shame on Blogger for having it out for implementation before it was ready.
Seems to have worked!
Oh no! It didn't!
Freeman, it's a google product. From professional experience, I can tell you that this is par for the course.
"I Love Blogger" is no longer an appropriate title for this post!
Programmers would rule the world wisely except for the Dilbert type managers who couldn't wipe their own ass without help from their overly friendly Congressional Representatives!
Believe the world would be a much better place without those idiotic Dilbert type managers.
It seems to be possible to revert to the old style comments by going to settings, then the comments sub-tab, look for "Comment Form Placement", and select the radio button for "Full page." Since I can't tell if anyone's posted this already, I'll go ahead and post it myself.
is there no way I can lurk without posting??!!
There is nothing here to tell me if there are more comments after the last one I see when I post this.
is there no way I can lurk without posting??!!
Google's like Obama. It demands that "you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. [Google] will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved..."
So are we just posting inane comments just to run the numbers up?
Freeman - I'd be willing to bet that the amount of money google and its employees have given to obama is frightening.
After this season, the next time a democrat tells me that they're worried about the role of money in politics, they're getting kicked in the nuts for being a clueless sack of s***.
Inane?! What do you mean, "inane?" These comments are exemplar. Anyway, we already passed 200.
Simon, I don't doubt it about the donations. Ha for the rest.
Just remember, it doesn't count if the money is there to help the candidate of truth and light and hope and change and peace and love etc etc etc.
squirt
Even worse, I cannot see a way to edit one's comments after previewing.
Well that's not so good.
Rest assured that it appears on some recent graduate student's progress report this month, dysfunctional or not.
test
Just for fun, try clicking on [Atom]. Seriously.
This is not ready for prime time.
I doff my chapeau to Freeman Hunt and AJ Lynch. You are real troopers!
But yes, it doesn't work. You can't see later comments before you comment -- so how can you come into a 400-comment thread and make a current comment? And after commenting, seeing the first 200 is not easy.
I wonder what happens when the comments go over 400?
Well, I could put in 147 comments to test that, but maybe I won't.
I guess it would only be 146.
145
Wouldn't that be tedious?
If everyone commenter added 10 comments, though. Many hands make short work.
What is Atom supposed to give you, btw?
Paul's Club -- with the tree inside -- is still around. Titus asked that yesterday. Did anyone answer?
But I've never been there. I've been to very very few bars in Madison: Jingles, Regent St. Retreat, Badger Bowl, Merck's Trophy Tap, Village Bar, the Laurel, Pedro's. Hmm....maybe I've been to more than I realize.
This new comment thing really sucks. You can't comment on your blogger account without several tries. At least we could look at the the comments over 200 without having to post something.
I wonder.....do the people who program for Blogger actually blog? or do they ever comment on blogs? It's like a person who had never seen a car was making modifications to automobiles.
I suggest that Ann unsubsribe from this P.O.S. and go back to the old way until they figure it out.
My hovercraft is full of eels.
And I miss DOB.
** Sob **
Oh no! I closed the window with posts >200, and now I can't see them! I have to post again!
The best part of that skit was Graham Chapman running for blocks.
test
are we there yet
oh no this is wack
text test block: fgdhgfdf qwerty uiop hggggggggggj ghfjjjjjjjjjjjh gffffffffffffhj fggggggggggggj jhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhfg jjjjjjjj fgjhhhhhhhhf jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjhf gfjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjg jhhhhhhhhhhhhhh gjfghfhjgf.
Now, quiz: how much $was that for obama?
This is unacceptable. I have to post another useless comment, just to read the new comments since my last useless comment.
Or you can hit refresh, as long as you are on the page containing your useless comment. But for a 1000-comment thread, I'm not sure how you'll get to posts 201-999. The first 200 show up with the post, and the latest "200" show up when you comment. That's why we have to get past 400!
I agree with Dust Bunny Queen -- the people programming this obviously do not comment on blogs.
Just a bit less than 100 to go before the next phase of the test!
I mean more.
More!
MORE!
MORE!
Ok, MadisonMan, I'll help you out.
MORE!
This is going to get very tedious.
If only I didn't have a full-time job!
yes, I can only continue for another 15 minutes
by the way, I tried the Atom thing. Now I have a bookmark in my browser that seems to point to 20 or so comments. It does make it easier to look at the new comments, though.
i just clicked the subscribe button. I wonder what my gmail inbox is going to look like tomorrow.
Well, maybe I shouldn't wish for that.
Hmm. How about this:
If only I didn't have a full-time job, but still had the income.
But I am curious how to see posts 201-400 once you go over 400 posts.
this would be easier if blogger responded faster
me too
one more
I get knocked down
but I get up again
Because if posts 201-400 can't be seen, why put effort into saying something noteworthy and witty.
Or if someone posts something you don't want seen, just post one word at a time 'til you get to the next multiple of 200, and those posts are orphaned.
you're never gonna keep me down
I get knocked down
but I get up again
you're never gonna keep me down
This would be easier if the hostess would implore people to push the total up past 400, not 200.
And yes, blogger is slow. I keep getting the conflicted edits page. I hate that.
I agree, mm.
sorry
Oh why can't you behave? (not you justin!)
I think we should all get paid for beta testing
after all the things you told me,
or maybe alpha testing
and the promises that you gave
oh, why can't you behave
a consultant is supposed to call me soon to help me fix a problem. I'm not optimistic.
Did they test this at all? I say no.
oh, you're singing too. I get it
Why can't you be good
I think they did, they just weren't rigorous enough.
and do just as you should
it reminds me of Y2K
wont' you turn that new leaf over
so your baby can be your slave
they probably fired the intern who asked about blogs getting over 200 comments.
oh, why can't you behave
200 comments on a single post? That's crazy talk!
We hired one person to deal with y2k issues. I was glad when he retired, he was boring.
haiku I wrote just now:
I don't love blogger
commenting has always sucked
unless you're unknown
Oops, compile's done, gotta go test something.
Intermission! Let's all go to the lobby, let's all go to the lobby, Let's all go to the lobby to get something to eat.
when the world didn't end on 1/1/00, I wondered if it was all hype
then I wondered how much money I could have made if I had become a Y2K consultant
and now I wonder what all those Y2K consultants are doing now
no one talks about Y2K anymore
MM, you're a programmer? Why did I think you were a professor?
I've lost 30 pounds this year. I guess new year's resolutions can work
this is the most I've ever commented in one day
but I'm really curious about what will happen
it's sad to think that my brilliant haiku may be lost forever
this makes me miss usenet
long discussions were much easier with a decent (and often free) newsreader
free software is cool, but who writes it and why?
I could write free software, but since I'm not a programmer, it would probably suck
if I was a programmer, I'd want to get paid for my skills
should I therefore conclude that the people writing free software are not programmers and that the software therefore sucks?
I used "therefore" twice in one sentence. very bad form
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I cannot safely conclude that, because I have used a great deal of free software that does not suck
without MadisonMan here, it just looks silly
I'll bet the consultant that's supposed to call me used to be a Y2K consultant
I've fixed more problems than he has
I hope he's not reading this comment thread. That would be embarrassing.
wow, that was close. My boss just walked up behind me.
he was wearing a suit (slightly unusual for him) and carrying some papers. He looked busy. I don't think he suspects.
bathroom break
talk amongst yourselves
no one filled in for me while I was gone. how depressing
I want to nominate this thread for best ever
I have election fatigue. I can barely muster the energy to vote.
it's cold here today
and by cold I mean 62°F
it's as if winter came early!
I actually wore a jacket to work today.
and I'm definitely not wearing shorts anymore
but I'm sure things will be back to normal soon
sunny and low 80's this weekend
we've had shockingly little rain lately
well, except for the hurricane.
Burma Shave
Okay I'm back!
There is snow in the forecast here.
talk about unwelcome!
that last comment was a joke I stole from my second favorite comic.
snow is never in the forecast around here
Hope and change.....such a failed policy!
one day, last winter, it was a little rainy and the forecast said it was going to freeze over night. the city (Houston) practically shut down. There were cops out with their lights on reminding people to drive slowly.
I actually wore a jacket to work today.
88 and sunny here in Calif today.
Miss Otis regrets she's unable to lunch today
not only can we not drive with ice on the road. we can't drive with a rumor of ice on the road.
Madam,
Miss Otis regrets she's unable to lunch today,
She's so sorry to be delayed
bite me
But last evening down in Lover's Lane she strayed
sorry, I channeled LuckyOldSon there for a minute
Madam
Miss Otis regrets she's unable to lunch today
we're up to 377
380!
When she woke up and found that her dream of love had gone
Madam
She ran to the man who led her so far astray
I don't know that song
And from under her velvet gown
I'm really not obsessed with Y2K
She drew a forty-four pistol (it's Cole Porter)
And she shot that dirty rascal down
Madam
Miss Otis regrets she's unable to lunch today
sounds like Janie's Got a Gun
what did her daddy do?
it's Janie's last IOU
she had to take him down easy and put a bullet in his brain
hey hey hey hey
There are some lyrics pages from which you can't grab lines by mouse clicking, so I won't be writing Anything Goes for my next trick.
But we're near 400 anyway
but man! he had it comin'
The whole thing's come un-done
Much like blogger!
I type them from memory
Althouse's got a gun!
Hey! How can I see comments 200-400!!!!!
ok, we're over 400
I have to say that justin wrote the funniest thing on a blog page I have ever ever seen. It was around comment #380 -- sorry no one else can see it now!
It was better than the funniest joke ever written. I hope he didn't die!
well, since you've been commenting all this time, you can hit the back button. Anyone who's coming straight to the page is out of luck.
There goes my brilliant haiku.
(phew), he's posted again.
Why thank you.
I know, I can sell a url that contains a link to a comment in the 201-400 range. Business opportunity knocks!
Blogger are you listening? This new posting protocol is piss poor.
Back to the drawing board! And back to work for me. Thanks Justin!
Couldn't have done it without you!
I've been looking for a good money-making scheme! Now you've got competition!
No problem. It was fun. Wanna hang out and see what happens at 1000?
1000 bottles of beer on the wall, 1000 bottles of beer. Take one down, pass it around. 999 bottles of beer on the wall!
who's with me?
is this thing on?
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