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I guess he's referring to Nixon-Kennedy, but that's almost 50 years ago.
Oh Lord - they're already getting ready to bleat that it was stolen? No one's "stolen" an election since Jack Kennedy stole it fair and square in '60. When are these people going to grow up.
From the article: "“Wealthy Republicans are very anxious about taxes,” Jamie Wasserman, a psychotherapist with a practice on the Upper West Side and in Montclair, N.J., said of her patients. “They are not pretending to vote for the black man.”"That last sentence astounds me.Trey
AND threatening riots/civil war.
This is slightly off-topic, but can someone enlighten me about why there are so few people available to work at voting centers that even early voters are on line for hours? I don't know what the requirements are, but if you know you've just flooded the system with however many thousands more registered voters, shouldn't there be some follow up (rather than instant bleating about people possibly being disenfranchised)?
What does “They are not pretending to vote for the black man.”"mean? Can someone translate New York Liberalese for me?
Jen:Baffling to me too. For example, if a voting district has 750 registered voters and three voting machines, why are there lines? If you have only one day to vote and there is 80% turnout. That means 600 people vote / 3 machines = 200 voters per machines / 12 hours to vote = 16 voters per machine per hour= 4-5 minutes per voter? So why are there lines in places where you have like two weeks to vote?
Red America is use to this charge but now will also have the Racism allegations going. This will make for a very long and shrill four years. If he loses Obama can do much to smother or fan these flames and have a major impact on race and political discourse by what he chooses.Still MLK must be proud that 40 from his death a black is a candidate for Prez. Thats a long road travelled.
Actually my sense of impending doom is that we may not be prepared to steal this election.
This from the party that's in bed with ACORN??!!??!!Audacity.
A lot of people in metro New York have way too much time on their hands.A good recommendation for all the losers quoted in the article: Stop paying attention and do something that actually matters. Go help the less fortunate. Volunteer at a school. Just stop the incessant navel-gazing and wondering about what if. Jeeze.
It's sort of a sign that government is too powerful. Most people shouldn't care who wins.No, seriously.
The pending storm I forsee is should Obama win. Since 2002 we've been subjected to GWB effigies hanging by noose on sticks being marched around and occasionally burned. So, when Right protests the first military adventure we will be safe to carry Obama's effigy, hung by a noose, during the protest. Right? Cause it would not be racial but instead a political cartoon. One with a long history. May be best if we let our European betters broach this first. Can't be covered by hate speech. This week's hanging of a Palin effigy caused no proceedings and hangin either Biden or McCain effigies is old hat.
Actually my sense of impending doom is that we may not be prepared to steal this election.I wouldn't worry. We have Alito and Roberts to put us over the top ;)
Bob, as your goal seems to be to provoke, may I suggest that your hang-the-black-effigy protest will garner more news coverage if you're all in white sheets with pointy white hats.
Stolen election allegations is really a ploy for fully employing lawyers. Lawyers to watch the counting, lawyers to argue on what chad counts, aurgue in court how this polling place needs counting while these ballots are all spoiled. A couple lucky lawyers may get to see and speak at the temple to the Gods. Where a decision wil be rendered. Lawyers stick together like a pack of rabbid wolves. Always the lawyers! Bad Ass Althouse, alpha wolf attorney
It's really pitiful that I almost hope Obama wins, just because I dread the tantrum.As bright sides go, being able to point back at 2008 and say, "See, your guy won," may make 2012 and onward just a little more bearable.Of course, I think that the persecution complex is something these people find a whole lot of meaning in, so it may be all for nothing.
Blake:That would also power down this blog's vortex.
MM - I'm thinking the white sheets isn't appropriate. I just want it your garden variety Presidential effigy hanging. Or do we wait until it becomes a trendy look overseas? This is like when you can white up or after whatever date.
I like how the article mentions troubles in Ohio and Florida, as if those weren't caused by the Democrats. (Or, I guess W could've conceded after Gore decided to unconcede.)It seems to me that what they're saying is that if you game the polls, get blanket coverage of how secure your win is, that you're entitled to win.I look at the polls and I see Dems sampled way higher than Reps. "Well," they say, "Dems are registering like crazy."Then I read the papers with Acorn registering 1.3M and admitting to 30% bad registrations. Then I remember that Rush Limbaugh was out there encouraging Reps to vote in the Dem primary--some of them certainly might have registered.And then I read the alleged memoirs of PUMAs working in the Obama campaign and alleging that the polls are skewed as part of a deliberate strategy to demoralize conservatives.And every now and again I wonder how a nation attacked by a guy named Osama and at war with a guy named Hussein could elect a terrorist-associated guy named Hussein Obama--I mean, just that alone should've been enough to rule him out.Silly, sure, but do you think a guy named John Wilkes Booth could get elected? I don't think so.Anyway, I add it all up and it comes up somewhere between 0 and infinity.I don't get the confidence at all. It's like trying to build a climate model: Too many unknown variables.
"Bob, as your goal seems to be to provoke, may I suggest that your hang-the-black-effigy protest will garner more news coverage if you're all in white sheets with pointy white hats."Did someone really hang Sarah Palin?In any case, I always thought the George Bush effigies were terribly European.And I don't mean that in a good way.It's a bit hard to take the outrage at how "hateful" Palin rally attendees are when we've been blessed with the vision of the symbolic violence and rage involved in "Peace" protests for the last several years.Did someone really make a Sarah Palin effigy and hang her?In any case, you're quite right. Hanging Obama in effigy would be nasty and I hope that the "right" never starts crap like that. Leave it to Code Pink.
People need to get a grip; whomever wins, it's transitory. No one will care in a hundred years what we do on Nov 4th. Can you name the 1908 candidates? The issues?BTW-The 1908 Democrat convention was held in Denver and their slogan was "Shall the People Rule?" Thus as it ever was.
Personally I feel most sorry for all the little kids who have been led to believe an Obama loss would be a genuine tragedy, not a political setback. Sure there are plenty of adults who feel the same way, but they should know better. Obama is a young man. It's hardly the end of his career.
I HAVE ELECTORAL DYSFUNCTION.
aj--Nah. Althouse is interesting in spite of the politics, not because of.Madison Man--You see, you went to the racial there! We will never be post-racial until we can hang a black man in effigy for political reasons without someone bringing up the KKK! If it's okay to hang Palin (and Bush) in effigy, it's gotta be okay to do it to Obama!Let us remember the lesson of the South Park Flag!
I did read a story about some kid somewhere -- in Wisconsin? -- having someone hanging in their front yard. Was it Palin? Obama? I really don't recall. Someone complained, he took it down, but I think he complained about having to take it down. Or maybe it was a she.I don't think a hanging the black politician as a protest a la European hanging of Bush in protest will be viewed as anything buy horribly racist until a couple of generations have passed. There are still plenty of blacks alive who have had close relatives lynched by white mobs, so the image of angry whitefolk hanging an Obama effigy is probably too soon after that still.Boy that writing is incoherent. Good night!
Syn--Yeah, in West Hollywood, which is only slightly more surprising than had it been San Francisco.Also, as far as the tantrum goes, I know the feeling, but it's best to treat like a two-year-old's.
Although having the media consistently on your side can have its advantages, it creates a sense of being right and of being a majority, This failure to do its job correctly leaves those naive enough to believe them grasping at conspiracy. Although the demographic that hold a lot of these views (stolen elections, Halliburton blood for oil, simple minded Cristians) probably rates high on education and professional achievemnets they often behave like the "simpletons" they sneer at.
Synova - in some county in California they hung her via noose. Homeowner took it down today after it being there for 2 days. If was my neighborhood I definitely would have hung a Biden effigy. I think the Obama effigy is in bounds once he's elected but it will become a huge deal. The trick would be to mark is President and not Obama. Bizarre times
I cannot name the 1903 candidate, but I know that entitlements that make up over 50% of our federal budget and grow at a rate faster than inflation came from somewhere.
Look at the bright side.Thanksgiving will be just around the corner.Some will thank God McCain stole it and others will thank God Obama stole it.
And yet if Obama, PBUH, loses none of these freaks will leave for Canada. None of them.They always promise but they never do it.Please God let McCain win and make him give Sarah Palin a prominent role as the new face of America to the world.It will be like the time you hit those Egyptians with the locusts, remember?
MadisonMan said... "I did read a story about some kid somewhere -- in Wisconsin? -- having someone hanging in their front yard. Was it Palin? Obama?"It was Palin. C'mon, think about it: if it had been Obama, you'd have heard about it. It would have been all over the news.
jdeeripper said... "Please God let McCain win and make him give Sarah Palin a prominent role as the new face of America to the world."That'd be really sweet. The folks who hate her tend to be the same folks who have an inferiority complex that is desperate to be thought well of by the Europeans, and I have a feeling that they'd find a Palin Vice Presidency just an incredibly bitter pill to swallow. Personally I hope they choke on it.
I got in a bit of 'trouble' because one of my readers was all upset about the skinhead plot - and I told him to chill out, in a few years we could give them a professorship, call them model citizens and try to pretend they didn't when they did launch some young candidate's coming out party in their living room. We'll say, oh, it's just youthful indiscretion... Needless to say it didn't go over very well. So, I'm asking, what's the difference? Ok, so Dohrn and Ayres actually were successful at killing people, there's that... but project ahead twenty, thirty years... should we be giving keys to the White House to these guys? And how are Obama's friends going to get security clearance?Stolen election? If ever there was one, we better hope this is the one.
It was Palin. C'mon, think about it: if it had been Obama, you'd have heard about it. It would have been all over the news.Yeah, no big deal, Palin asked for it.
VP or not, Palin isn't going away unless she does something outrageous like having sex with a goat in the village square.And how are Obama's friends going to get security clearance?The same way all presidential appointees do.And yes... to anyone who actually has or has had a security clearance and actually been *responsible* on threat of all sorts of badness to handle information properly, the fact that the rules are so very different for the "little people" burns.
Well gee, Synova, strap some horns on me and point me to the village square! ;)
Speaking of clearance, what's Sandy Berger doing these days?
"if you're all in white sheets with pointy white hats."How would dressing up as a snow trooper garner more news coverage?
Oh, you don't know, Paddy O?Hooper: Always some white boy gotta invoke the holy trilogy. Bust this: Those movies are about how the white man keeps the brother man down, even in a galaxy far, far away. Check this shit: You got cracker farm boy Luke Skywalker, Nazi poster boy, blond hair, blue eyes. And then you got Darth Vader, the blackest brother in the galaxy, Nubian god!Banky Edwards: What's a Nubian?Hooper: Shut the fuck up! Now... Vader, he's a spiritual brother, y'know, down with the force and all that good shit. Then this cracker, Skywalker, gets his hands on a light saber and the boy decides he's gonna run the fuckin' universe; gets a whole clan of whites together. And they go and bust up Vader's hood, the Death Star. Now what the fuck do you call that?Banky Edwards: Intergalactic civil war?Hooper: Gentrification! They gon' drive out the black element to make the galaxy quote, unquote, safe for white folks. And Jedi's the most insulting installment! Because Vader's beautiful black visage is sullied when he pulls off his mask to reveal a feeble, crusty, old white man! They tryin' to tell us that deep inside we all wants to be white!Banky Edwards: Well, isn't that true?[Hooper pulls out his gun, shoots Banky]
What if some people, who where going to vote for Obama, realise what an Obama landslide could mean, changed their minds and vote for McCain in enough numbers to put McCain over the top?If Obama is a done deal - the safe vote (let's say you have heard about the real Obama) would be a vote for McCain.Win or loose You could lie and tell people you voted for Obama.A dollar and a dream? Maybe.
And here's the clip.It's really got nothing to do with the movie, but it's a great bit.
Jen Bradford said... Personally I feel most sorry for all the little kids who have been led to believe an Obama loss would be a genuine tragedy, not a political setback. Sure there are plenty of adults who feel the same way, but they should know better. Obama is a young man. It's hardly the end of his career.What planet are you on? You seem to be in such denial of the polls that you're reduced to a little pity-patty musing about kids being disappointed Obama lost..*************************Madisonman - will be viewed as anything buy horribly racist until a couple of generations have passed. There are still plenty of blacks alive who have had close relatives lynched by white mobs, so the image of angry whitefolk hanging an Obama effigy is probably too soon after that still.Please. Organized lynching ceased to be a factor back in the 1920s. From Reconstruction until about 80 years ago, only around 2400 blacks were lynched, over 3000 whites and they were generally guilty of the crime they were lynched for.An actual lynching of a relative affects a miniscule, miniscule part of the present black population which possesses a living memory of such an occurance. After that era closed in the 20s, "civil rights movement people" tried hard to describe garden variety murderous hate crimes as lynchings - but these were acts of private murder, done by small groups of twisted men, out of public view. There will always be James Byrd cases and the Left will always try to portray any rare white on black or Asian on black crime as "a lynching". Along with their initial reaction to hoaxes done by blacks to drum up the usual Lefty sympathyand reivigorate the old "mean whitey done persecuted and lynched us again" narrative of the Tawana Brawleys, Columbia profs with nooses appearing on their doorsteps, "traumatic racist graffitti", Duke Lacrosse.But for each and every true or false "black lynching" claimed since the 1920s as a political tool, there are 500 whites who were murdered or savagely raped by a stranger or strangers of the black thug type.Present-day "lynchings" of blacks are done 94% of the time by other blacks, 5+% by Hispanics, less than 1% of the time by whites or Asians.Whereas, black thugs account for 24% of hispanic murders and rapes, 36% of white murders and rapes, and 40% of such "lynchings" in Asian groups.If any group or groups deserves "sparing the trauma" of being reminded of lynching, it is the relatives in all racial groups whose living memory of "lynchings"is that of evil black thugs..not "angry whitefolk".
What planet are you on? You seem to be in such denial of the polls that you're reduced to a little pity-patty musing about kids being disappointed Obama lost.Friday afternoon, I popped over to my kids' school with something for my daughter. On my way to her class, I saw my second grade son eating lunch and stopped by to say hi. His friend, let's call him John, was sitting next to him, and beside John was another more rambunctious classmate I'll call Mark. Mark asked me, "Who are you voting for?" Without thinking too much about it, I replied, "John McCain." I said 'bye to the boys and went to find my daughter.A few minutes later I was walking back through the MPR and noticed that John was in tears and the aide was trying to calm him down. I asked my son what happened to him. He didn't know. I asked him, did you say anything mean to John? He said, "No. He just likes Barack Obama." John was upset to the point of tears because he found out his friends (or his friends' parents) like John McCain more than Barack Obama. The aide, God bless her, told him it was silly to cry about that when she found out what he was crying about. But what the hell have John's parents been telling him that he gets so upset when he finds out a couple of classmates' parents disagree with his parents? It's ridiculous.
Here's something from back when Howard Stern was actually funny. Howard Stern - Little Haiti Parade Miami .The Obama coalition is basically these people and well off White people. Then again I guess McCain voters are White Americans from the proverbial trailer parks and the upscale gated communities.Who's going to win the boring, middle of the road, middle class suburbanites?I'm pretty sure McCain is going to win those who make a virtue out of selfishness.
Just for the record, that dumb hanging Palin thing was a couple of guys in west hollywood.Not Wisconsin. Resume internet umbrage.
Nobody's noticed what was so strange about the NY Times article that started this conversation: Just about everyone they interviewed is 50+. I thought the passion and enthusiasm for Obama was coming from new, young voters. Couldn't the Times find any Millennials? And then I read the alleged memoirs of PUMAs working in the Obama campaign and alleging that the polls are skewed as part of a deliberate strategy to demoralize conservatives.Unless you've got a mole inside the polling firm, how do you skew a poll? I think that much-discussed Hillbuzz comment is the product of someone's rich and paranoid fantasy life.
Any time Republicans win, the election was "stolen."No matter what, it's what Democrats will say.That kind of rhetoric is poisonous in our political process--especially when it isn't coupled with an honest desire to stamp out vote fraud.If Democrats were policing their own (ACORN, the Daley Machine, the fraud in Washington State, etc.) I would have more patience for their false claims of stolen elections.
Most annoying thread I've read all year.Oh, I'm sorry. Maybe that car alarm that's been cycling on and off for the last hour influenced me.
Actually, the Palin hanging was up for about 3 weeks before it made the news. The "artist" who owns the house said that he wanted to evoke comments about the presidential race. The neighbors covered the display with a sheet and the "artist" got the hint and took it down. But not before a visit by the cops who suggested it would be a wise move to remove the display. No charges filed...Also on Wednesday, an effigy of Obama was found hanging on the U of K campus. Two students admitted to the prank. They were arrested and charged with disorderly conduct. Moral of the story... if you get caught hanging effigies, claim it's "art" designed to provoke a reaction.
I live in one of those liberal onclaves thank god and I feel the same way as others in this story.
In my neighborhood there are no Palin/Mccain supporters.
Sarah Jessica Parker is even on the phones drumming up business for Obama.I love her.
Unless you've got a mole inside the polling firm, how do you skew a poll?Ummm... You have Acorn register everything at Cartoon Network and the Disney channel to inflate the number of Ds and then the polling firms stupidly use the inflated % for weighting purposes in their formulas.... These are not the polls you are looking for... Move along./just furthering the Star Wars blog meme of the day... ;)
In my neighborhood most people make over 250k.What is the matter with NYC?
I just want the wardrobe department to send me her shoe collection from SITC....
I love the fact that I make over 250k.I feel that I belong to a special club. And I look down on those that haven't been able to make 250k a year.Peasants.
I hate the south.
From Drudge: ZOGBY SATURDAY: Republican John McCain has pulled back within the margin of error... The three-day average holds steady, but McCain outpolled Obama 48% to 47% in Friday, one day, polling. He is beginning to cut into Obama's lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all... The South's Gonna Do It Again..Well, the train to Grinder's Switch is runnin' right on timeAnd them Tucker Boys are cookin' down in CarolinePeople down in Florida can't be stillWhen ol' Lynyrd Skynrd's pickin' down in JacksonvillePeople down in Georgia come from near and farTo hear McCain-Palin pickin' on that Red Loving "Star"And Titus calls for a shrink in 5..4..3..2..
John--As Stephanie points out (and as I thought I pointed out, too), one way you can do it is by inflating the number of registrations for a party. The pollsters then weight the poll incorrectly.There's already a confirmed bias in the fact that the pollsters--the guys making the calls--are pro-Obama and so unconsciously influence the outcome of the poll.Are there other ways to skew a poll? I don't know.Is it the fever dream of a madwoman? Maybe. Or something more banal. You can check it out for yourself here.As Ace noted, it's too perfect: It completely reinforces the Rep ideas of how Obama is running his campaign. Which is why I say it has a value between zero and infinity. I just went over our numbers and found that we have next to no chance in the following states: Missouri, Indiana, North Carolina, Florida, New Hampshire and Nevada. Ohio leans heavily to McCain, but is too close to call it for him. Virginia, Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico and Iowa are the true “toss up states”. The only two of these the campaign feels “confident” in are Iowa and New Mexico. Interesting if true. As is the comment about an 80% refusal to respond rate.If Tuesday goes down exactly like "they" say, this will all mean nothing. And if doesn't, it still means nothing (other than the polls were bad). I profess to no insight, other than finding the party "balancing" skewed--but then I can't guarantee that it's wrong, only that it looks wrong to me.
And, honestly, the only thing I really want to see out of this election is a humiliated press.And I think I'm going to get that no matter how things come out.For the rest, I'll have to trust that (whoever is elected) ol' Lady Liberty can take one for the team.
The 80% refusal rate is pretty accurate. That is the standard response rate for ALL phone polling (and for walk up pollsters, it is even less, but I digress).
Really? That seems high compared to the polling data we generated. Huh. If it's no different, it's no different. But I'd bet money a McCain voter is more likely to refuse.
blake said...But I'd bet money a McCain voter is more likely to refuse.Of course, that's the key. Obama voters want to tell the world. McCain voters are like.. "fuck you, get off my yard".The polling is judging voluntary responders.Huge Obama bias and that has nothing to do with the phony Bradley Effect.If the media doesn't demoralize these people into staying home then McCain will win.....the fact that some pollsters get up to an 80% “refuse to respond” result. You can’t possibly include these into the polls. The truth is, people are afraid to let people know who they are voting for. The vast majority of these respondents are McCain supporters. Obama is the “hip” choice, and we all know it.
McCain is going to win.That's all that matters this time around.
The bleating about elections stolen in 2000 and 2004 was preparation for what is going to happen in 2008, when Democrats are going to steal the election.That Democrats are already on the path to steal the current election is manifestly obvious. And, it will receive as much attention in the MSM as the theft of the election by Kennedy against Nixon, engineered in ... you guessed it ... Chicago.
Yeah well I also can claim to have an impending sense of doom.And it comes up when I read this again (an anniversary of sorts) about the campus life re-education program at the University of Delaware:http://www.thefire.org/index.php/article/9870.htmlWhat was put in place at the University of Delaware is what Obama's "Associates" talk like -- mandatory meetings to promote and enforcer a highly specified social, environmental, and political agenda.Anything deemed remotely "oppressive" by anyone was to be stamped out, and resident assistants were being taught that "[a] racist is one who is both privileged and socialized on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. The term applies to all white people (i.e., people of European descent) living in the United States, regardless of class, gender, religion, culture or sexuality."So if you are undecided or haven't voted yet -- think about what Obama's "unity" will look like.Call me a liar.Please.
Some angler catching fish with a quivering rod, or a shepherd leaning on his crook, or a ploughman resting on the handles of his plough, saw them, perhaps, and stood there amazed, believing them to be gods able to travel the sky....The boy began to delight in his daring flight, and abandoning his guide, drawn by desire for the heavens, soared higher. His nearness to the devouring sun softened the fragrant wax that held the wings: and the wax melted: he flailed with bare arms, but losing his oar-like wings, could not ride the air.The story of Icarus
Simon,Unfortunately, a lot of (conservative and liberal) women dislike Palin because they resent her rise to the top of the heap without seeming to pay her dues. If Sarah is as sharp as I suspect, she will win a lot of those people over in time. The real haters are probably the usual suspects who hate anyone who isn't a leftist. You can tell the difference because the latter are foaming at the mouth and engaging in the usual projection.
As noted by others above, if Obama loses it won't just supposedly be because of racism, but also 'cause the election was stolen. The word has long been going round on leftist and Democratic mailing lists as well as places like the Huffington Post (circulated by folks like Greg Palast and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.) that the “fix” is in — and Obama supporters should act to “steal back your vote.” I've received probably a dozen e-mails from his site alone on the topic.If Obama is defeated, there will be a huge hoorah issued by all the leftist smoke-making machines about how the election was stolen out from under him. But, of course, we're all assured by Dem partisans that voter fraud — from their side of the aisle — is a myth.Another piece about the forthcoming “theft” of the election (by Republicans, of course) can be seen in Rolling Stone, in another article by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Greg Palast that was supposedly posted on October 30, 2008 (it was actually posted a couple of weeks before). Palast touts the Rolling Stone piece at his own site, under the original title “It's already stolen,” spouting:“Don’t worry about Mickey Mouse or ACORN stealing the election. According to an investigative report out today in Rolling Stone magazine, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Greg Palast, after a year-long investigation, reveal a systematic program of ‘GOP vote tampering’ on a massive scale.”The oh-so-reliable leftist Dem propaganda organ Truthout (which still hasn't disavowed their news report some time back revealing that Karl Rove is about to be indicted any day now) jumps on the bandwagon with this interview with the intrepid pair.The BBC joins the stampede with a two-part investigative report Palast did for BBC Newsnight titled “The Theft of 2008” that one can see at Greg's site, or directly at YouTube.Then there's the StealBackYourVote.org site that they've launched, as well as a 24-page full-color comic book “Steal it Back!” (Here's a cover from that work of art.) As Palast writes of the comic:“Make a $100 tax deductible donation at StealBackYourVote.org and we'll send you 25 to pass out to troublemakers of your choice. And, for every $100 donation, we will give away another 400 to voters to vulnerable voters in swing states. We just sent eight cases to Santiago Juarez. Santiago's working with young Hispanic voters of New Mexico. Can you help us send him more? […]“Or give us the donation, we'll send'm to a church designated by our co-sponsor Jesse Jackson's Operation Rainbow/PUSH. Thanks to your prior generosity, we're offering the printing plates FREE of any fee to us to any magazine or weekly that wants to insert comic. […]“Coming soon — Greg Palast and Bobby Kennedy in Steal Back Your Vote! — the Film — from the pueblos of New Mexico to Karl Rove’s emails (really!), the real scoop. ‘Stories so relevant they threaten to alter history.’ — Chicago Tribune.”Clearly, the leftist propaganda organs are working overtime on the upcoming theft of the 2008 election — by Republicans, of course, despite all the “troublemakers” as they call it that they're distributing their helpful “Steal it Back” guide to. Because, always remember: vote fraud from the left is a myth.
Some Dems are hinting that the Ohio election will be stolen, which is interesting because the chief election officer in Ohio, the Secretary of State, is a DEMOCRAT.No shame in that party.
They need to do a same story for republicans who are worried.You know the ones living in Mayberry, Pensacola, Tupelo, and Provo.Granted, traveling to those cities may not be as fabulous as Cambridge and the Upper West Side but that is where the real America and pro Americans live.
Those cities in the article are all elite and educated and make money. I thought democrats didn't work?
blake: "It's sort of a sign that government is too powerful. Most people shouldn't care who wins."Now that should be the goal of the next president. Imagine having time to think about your real life for a change. Maybe we should amend the constitution so that the winner would never be announced, just work in secret. Imagine the bliss of ignorance, I do.
Here's a nice bit of tolerance in Seattle:The Stranger points out the Rethuglican Houses - Complete with Addresses!
Remember, Republicans steal elections - Democrats just protect the civil rights of the minorities like non-living-Americans and ficticious-Americans to vote as many times as they want.
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