ADDED: I'm trying to understand the scope of the political theater depicted in the video and reported here. The woman, a Moveon.org employee, came to the debate to create a scene, we're told, by presenting a joke "award" to Ron Paul.
In the video from CNN affiliate WDRB, several men wearing Rand Paul shirts or stickers are seen ripping a blonde wig off the head of Lauren Valle and pushing her to the ground. One of the men stomps on her shoulder with his foot, which then lands on the side of her head.Are the men in the T-shirts also from Moveon.org? Who were they? There were no arrests and though there was a crowd, no one bothered to have detained these men. Did they just melt back into the night? It's very convenient that these bad actors were wearing labels identifying them.
"We don't know the suspect. We're in the process of trying to review the video tapes," said Lt. Edward Hart. "Where this took place, there were no police officers."So her head was on the curb and her neck was stomped, but she will go off and take care of herself?
All of the people who accosted Valle in the video are subject to charges, Hart said.
Valle, who complained of soreness to her temple, told police she would seek medical attention herself.
I'm skeptical!
AND: Perhaps the reason the crowd did not detain the men is that, in person, it did not look as brutal as it seems in the short video clip — a clip that has the words "head" and "stomp" near it. What was the woman doing before the men activated themselves to stop her? Also, look closely. There is no head stomp. The head is on the curb, but the foot presses down on the shoulder. That ends pretty quickly. That restraint might be a reason to speculate that the men were part of some Moveon.org theater, but it could also mean that the men felt they needed to stop her — because she was in disguise and rushing toward the candidate? — and they reacted quickly. There is force, but they soon back off. I'm not endorsing their judgment about what amount of force was appropriate, but perhaps I can see reason to think that they may have been motivated not by their preexisting propensity toward violence, but by the purpose of protecting the candidate.
UPDATE: The "stomper" comes forward. He's a real Rand Paul volunteer, and he's apologized. I'm really glad he's come forward:
Paul supporter Tim Profitt said video of the scuffle made it appear worse than it was and he chided police for not stepping in....
"I'm sorry that it came to that, and I apologize if it appeared overly forceful, but I was concerned about Rand's safety," Profitt told The Associated Press....UPDATE 2: Day 2 of this discussion begins here.
"A friend of mine went up to three policeman before Rand got there, and told them about the girl who was standing there with that wig on and that she was getting ready to do something," Profitt said. "The policemen looked at him and said that's not our job."
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they will not admit to, or condemn, violence from within their own ranks
1) Not certain "who's" ranks they come form yet - and neither are you.
2) Of course everyone here condemns violence against an innocent person, whether they agree with you politically or not.
3) This is fishy, rotten fishy.
Remember the left-wing professor who staged her own car vandalism then accused right wingers of hate crimes?
Lefties and Democrats.
Sheesh
Goodbye, guys.
This hysteria has worn me out.
I suspect you can keep it up for another 200 posts.
Set a record.
Go for it.
It's time to go back to work.
The world's going to go on the same no matter who triumphs in this argument.
The funniest meme on this comment thread is the idea that Althouse is a right-winger. Remember she voted for Obama and votes for Democrats in general. But once you go off the reservation, *POW* you're a flaming right-winger. Sick, sick, sick this tribalism by the left.
I suspect if we knew what hotel Valle stayed in, we could find some hotel employees who would recognize her "assailants".
Agree with Michael. for someone who was "stomped", she shows no ill effects and was in remarkably good spirits.
Since the faces of several of the assailants are clearly visible, we should know who did this and why fairly soon.
PS In any case, this incident may not be enough for the Demos. Haven't seen a Harris poll in the news in forever, but, if this is right, The Zero is on his way to plumbing depths even Dubya never saw.
AlphaLiberal says in part "No, I do not think it goes without saying anymore that people oppose this."
We certainly missed your condemnation of the numerous violent attacks initiated by lefties. But we know lefties don't care about hypocrisy, BAMN, right?
Anyone have the actual video of the alleged SEIU beating? I always hear it, but never linked.
Personally, I'm a little concerned by how focused Alpha is on the victim being a woman. If she's woman enough to attempt to storm the stage, then she's woman enough to be physically restrained. I agree that the shoulder-stomping went a *step* too far--and I think most of us here do agree with that, assuming it was real and not staged (sorry, Althouse, but while I see your point, I have no answers for you).
But I don't think she deserved some kind of special treatment because she was a woman. Alpha needs to accept women as equals and, um, move on.
isn't taking care of herself just the type of self reliance the right wing bootjacks want from all of us?
Sorry HD, but that doesn't pass the smell test. If she was truly stomped, she'd be broken and bleeding all over the asphalt. Where was the blood?
Tawana Brawley in Kentucky.
Julie - you must be new here. Don't buy into the lies of the left. Remember the Reichstag fire of 1932? Don't allow the left to get away with it!
Ayn Rand was a leftist.
Rush Limbaugh is a leftist.
Michael Savage is a leftist.
Sean Hannity is a leftist.
None of these argued against modernity,
So, Ayn Rand, who published a book in 1957 -- the Jet Age, the Atomic Age -- about two people who ran a railroad, and a guy with a steel company, was not living in the past, by your estimation?
All Utopians are leftists.
Oh well then. Galt's Gulch was a dystopia. Good to know.
The Harris poll reflects Americans reacting to hearing the President call some of their countrymen the "enemy".
It could be real.
I dunno.
There are fake ballots, voting machines that default to Democrat, Franken trunk units of found ballots, ACORN bullshit, etc etc.
The vote has lost almost all integrity.
So I fully expect serious violence to escalate over the next year. France, Greece ...why not us?
Anyone have the actual video of the alleged SEIU beating? I always hear it, but never linked.
I don't know if you trust my word, Garage, but it was here in STL and I had planned on going with a few friends, a couple from both sides of the isle. They were there, I was babysitting.
Despite FLS's linked "Gladney was the agressor" thingy, the three thugs (union or not, who cares?) came over to where Gladney was trying to sell merch. They got in his face and started yelling at him specifically because he's black and on the wrong side. That's where the heads started to turn. One of them tried to grab something Gladney was holding and the melee began. He was knocked to the ground and at least two blows fell (whether they hit or not, my friends didn't have a good vantage point to see if they connected solidly) before a crowd rushed over to stop whatever was going on. There was a lot of confusion, but they said they saw the two or three running from the scene as the crowd came over.
My question has always been...why flee if you were attacked? Did Gladney milk it? Seems to be the case, but he certainly didn't get any help from the local area groups one would think an attacked black man would be able to go to.
As for responding to your questions, Ann. Forget it. It would seem everyone has already set up their barricades and is too busy lobbing verbal brickbats to notice you.
Nice try tho.
Oh, God, fls,
So, Ayn Rand, who published a book in 1957 -- the Jet Age, the Atomic Age -- about two people who ran a railroad, and a guy with a steel company, was not living in the past, by your estimation?
No, Ayn Rand did not argue against modernity, nor was she a Utopian.
She argued for individualism, the precise opposite of Utopianism.
And, no, she isn't one of my heroes.
Now, can I go to work.
You are the Smartest Guy in the Room. You're juggling 33 absurdities simultaneously. Each individually is a crock. But, it's amazing how you hold them all together.
So, you win. Happy?
You are the Smartest Guy in the Room. You're juggling 33 absurdities simultaneously. Each individually is a crock. But, it's amazing how you hold them all together.
Shouting Thomas - it's always a freak show in here.
Alpha Libtard: Well, we have plenty of proof all over this page of what I have said for a long time:
No, the only thing we have proof of is that Alpha Liberal can't read.
The American right wing has a strong propensity for violence, they will not admit to, or condemn, violence from within their own ranks.
No again. We said we withholding judgement until we are satisfied this wasn't yet another Dem dirty trick.
See, Alpha is not really interested in the truth of what happened, he simply has a very strong need to establish that "the other" are hypocrties.
Perhaps to lessen his own shame for being one.
Why wear a wig?
Bow down before the Aqua Bootists!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTXBOgPCh9w
Here you go alpha. You don't see anyone lay a hand on Gladney, so by Althousian logic nothing happened (re the spitting on the Congressman). The minister is the one in the dark shirt lying on the ground as the video starts. Gladney is full of pep and apparently unharmed, while the minister gingerly feels his shoulder.
After stonewalling and foot-dragging and making excuses, the Rand Paul campaign admits it was one of their own using violence against people they disagree with:
"The Paul for Senate campaign is extremely disappointed in, and condemns the actions of a supporter last night outside the KET debate. Whatever the perceived provocation, any level of aggression or violence is deplorable, and will not be tolerated by our campaign. The Paul campaign has disassociated itself from the volunteer who took part in this incident, and once again urges all activists -- on both sides -- to remember that their political passions should never manifest themselves in physical altercations of any kind."
But are they helping the police identify the perps?
Please Professor: stop comments and pull this thread--this is the most pathetic piece of shit I have ever seen. I'd say ni**er if it would get the threaqd stopped.
Assuming it was an assault then it is a police matter and they can sort it out. A complaint can be filed and the wheels of justice, however slowly they move, can be brought to bear.
Here you go alpha. You don't see anyone lay a hand on Gladney, so by Althousian logic nothing happened (re the spitting on the Congressman). The minister is the one in the dark shirt lying on the ground as the video starts. Gladney is full of pep and apparently unharmed, while the minister gingerly feels his shoulder.
Yeah, this shows some real hypocrisy.
for someone who was "stomped", she shows no ill effects and was in remarkably good spirits.
Exactly like Ken Gladney in the St. Louis video. Good call!
the three thugs (union or not, who cares?) came over to where Gladney was trying to sell merch. They got in his face and started yelling at him specifically because he's black and on the wrong side. That's where the heads started to turn. One of them tried to grab something Gladney was holding and the melee began. He was knocked to the ground and at least two blows fell (whether they hit or not, my friends didn't have a good vantage point to see if they connected solidly)
Sorry. "Video or it didn't happen" is the strict rule around here.
Alpha Libtard: What are you doing, besides making excuses for the violent, making reasoned debate and conversation impossible, hawking lies and spreading bullshit
How many times do we have to tell you before it sinks in?
We are withholding judgement until we are satisfied it was not staged by the Left.
Alpha, don't pretend to care about "reasoned debate" while you've got your fingers stuck in your ears.
Damn, I knew the Left was stupid, but...
You did see the, "don't know if you trust me" part, right? That's called a disclaimer. Say it with me. Dis-claim-er. I would have also accepted qualifier.
FLS: Sorry. "Video or it didn't happen" is the strict rule around here.
More lies.
The "rule" is that if you are walking down the street with 18 video cameras filming, and you claim someone spit on you and called you a n-word, there better be evidence of the instance on at least 1 of the 18 cameras that shadowed you down the street.
Especially if you have a reputation for falsely accusing your enemies of racism.
Alpha (and others): if this little bit of street theater gives you a fit of the vapours, wait until next Tuesday nite--plan on checking yourselves in to the nearest MH facility.
So you have that link then Fen? So we can compare the two?
Fen teaches a night course in how to film spittle with a cell phone camera.
Oh the virality!
Rather appalling to read Althouse's skepticism, of what clearly is a stomp to the women's neck by the man in the blue T-Shirt with Rand Paul written across its back. The YouTube video clearly shows this. To frame it as good news for the dems reeks of denial, and it reeks of the atmosphere we are establishing in this country. The person's face is clear. I will be glad to describe him to the police, and I suspect the police will be able to track him down, and I look forward to Althouse's next framing.
Especially if you have a reputation for falsely accusing your enemies of racism.
Well, I know someone with a reputation for making baseless smears against sitting Congressmen.
She had a big grin on her face. Best theater ever.
I saw that too. What's up with that?
RV: you make my point sir--let the police investigate this as an assault and let us all suspend judgment until (1) a complaint is filed; and (2) an investigation is conducted and completed. not difficult, no? Until then, all of us are talking out of our asses. (except me, of course)
So R-V: you and I are in agreement? Merits a police investigation where the truth will out?
Former Law Student: Fen teaches a night course in how to film spittle with a cell phone camera.
See? You don't even know what you're talking about.
Being slimed by a shouting protestor's spittle != being spit upon and called n*gger.
Your "spit upon" claim WAS debunked by a cell phone camera.
If this passes for real violence to liberals I can perfectly understand why they are against war.
Show me precisely where you are seeing this "head stomp"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbnEy_U9pYk&feature=player_embedded
@garage
The beauty of this post is that it will be on the internet forever.
Be careful for what you wish.
This is why the left's history of staged events (e.g. the Dan Rather TANG memo) is coming back to haunt the left.
No one believes jack shit that concerns the Democrats. Not one goddamned thing.
Hell, my son's high school religion teacher, whose favorite Presidents are Roosevelt and JFK, proudly told his class how she and her husband cast 3rd party votes so the GOP guy would lose to the Democrat.
They brag about these sort of dirty tricks bullshit constantly. Why should I believe anything ever that arises from the left?
It's like they're all Andy Kaufman, and no one believes they have cancer even when they die.
And the guy who puts his foot on her and pushes? The other guys there stop him.
Guess that doesn't fit your narrative though, right Libtards?
Wish you had been more skeptical of Obama.
AlphaLiberal, your attempt to prove your false claims about the "right" are quite laughable and result in some of the most extreme hypocrisy imaginable.
If that's what you want the world to think of "liberals", you are doing a fine job of self-sabotage.
Hell, my son's high school religion teacher, whose favorite Presidents are Roosevelt and JFK, proudly told his class how she and her husband cast 3rd party votes so the GOP guy would lose to the Democrat.
Um...wouldn't their votes have had more effect if they had just voted for the Democrat? Not sure I understand where the dirty trickery is in this one...seems more self-defeating than anything else.
Althouse adds another paragraph with an "AND" now that she sees she was so terribly wrong. Ha! Let the delicate backtracking begin...
Yes Roger, I agree. I withhold judgement and framing until the police report which we can expect late this afternoon. I suspect this will be like the guy, Reichert, who blew up at the health care protest towards the guy in a wheel chair with Parkinson's disease. He later apologized and talked about the influence of the crowd-- Crowd emotion can be a dangerous thing.
Maguro
Sorry, primary voting.
Done so the lesser candidate wins, and the Dem runs against a sure loser.
The biggest lie lying liars lie:
"The metaphorical equivalent for this is the Corporate executives dumping corporate money into our election process to buy themselves some Congresscritters to pass tax cuts, deregulate and otherwise give them free reign to pillage and plunder."
Unlike Soros who gives millions to help attain his goals? Feh.
Scott M, me, IIRC others; there sure are a lot of us Missourians around here...we should have a get together.
Zachary doesn't seem to know what 'backtracking' means, given that Althouse is explaining why skepticism is warranted.
Demand a refund from your high school, son.
Scott M, me, IIRC others; there sure are a lot of us Missourians around here...we should have a get together.
I'm still waiting for AltCon 2010. I would be willing to make the driver to Madison if we're promised an open bar.
.....how about browns(hirts)....
Yes, the whole thing smells fishy.
The "victim" was arrested earlier this year for vandalism at a protest.
Her name is Lauren Valle and she's a GreenPeacer as well as a MoveOn.orger.
looks like the "plant theory" just fizzled out. the curbstomping volunteer just got sent under the bus
1. there was a criminal complaint filed
2. Rand Paul's campaign admits the thug was one of theirs.
But I guess Ann Althouse is still "skeptical" as are some of the "Ohhh those nasty Polish took over our radio station last night" types found in this blog.
As for the video... I don't have the bandwidth to watch it right now, so I can't judge whether it looks faked or not. But in my view, claims of fraud have to meet pretty high standards of proof.
I can’t watch it either. However, October political nonsense should be highly scrutinized too.
It kind of sounds like they restrained her, more than beat her up, though. Maybe a little too forcefully.
Looks like bush-league street theatre to me -- like B-grade professional wrestling. Notice how they helped her down.... Watch how she adjusts her glasses while she's being "stomped".... Notice the smirk on her face the whole time.... Notice how steady the camera is and how well-lit the sene is?
These actors even know how to do "stage blocking", see definition at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_%28stage%29.
I call B.S. This was a stunt. Bet you a slurpee...
Maybe she can put a noose over her own doorknob, too.
Leftists have no credibility, and in fact, you can assume they are lying, because every. single. time. they are caught in a lie.
It should be renamed the Tawana Brawley/Crystal Mangum Party.
The left seems to have manufactured some red meat for their forlorn side late in the election cycle.
I don't think this is real but if it is, lefties can now experience what it is that they've been dishing out for years.
BTW: AlphaLiberal you're pathetic.
Definitely a set-up. This woman was not harmed and she was handled quite gently in the way these individuals dealt with her.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were all members of moveon.org.
And it's been downgraded to a "scuffle":
""I'm sorry that it came to that, and I apologize if it appeared overly forceful, but I was concerned about Rand's safety," Profitt told The Associated Press.
Video recorded by WDRB shows Valle's blonde wig being pulled off before she's pinned to the ground. Profitt then pushes his foot down on her head."
No stomping.
No story.
Just ignore Pogo. It will go away.
Ann, is this just like the time when you claimed Obama had an ear piece during a debate? Are you going to throw a fit after George Packer writes a takedown of this post?
"Profitt said he was interviewed by a Lexington police detective Tuesday, but that he had not been charged.
"A friend of mine went up to three policeman before Rand got there, and told them about the girl who was standing there with that wig on and that she was getting ready to do something," Profitt said. "The policemen looked at him and said that's not our job."
Paul campaign manager Jesse Benton said Profitt's actions were unacceptable and would not be tolerated."
She rushed him and they took her down.
What was 'unacceptable'?
I guess the guy was just lying when he said he worked for the Paul campaign then: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39844442/ns/us_news/?ocid=twitter
Stupid.
See?
Democrats are all Andy Kaufman.
No one takes their shit seriously because their past is littered with staged events.
So when something actually does happen, no one believes you.
Hilarious.
I will make this deal with any lefty that will take me up on it. I will allow them to "stomp" my head in the manner that the person in the video was "stomped." Then I get to "stomp" the lefty with my version of a "stomp." It is wonderful and thrilling to toss around words like "stomp" when you are a pussy leftie who has never been in a fight. After being "stomped" you might find the word has a different meaning than you thought.
HDHouse said...
.....how about browns(hirts)....
The Purple Shirts seem to be doing most of the violence.
2. Rand Paul's campaign admits the thug was one of theirs.
No link, of course. Here is one. Apparently, he wasn't a Tea Partier (sorry, all you fans of Josef Goebbels), he has apologized, says the video is misleading (we'll see) , and the Paul campaign has terminated him as their chairman is Bourbon County.
Still waiting to hear Alpha, garage, HD, etc., say anything about the Tea Partier who had his finger bitten off, Kenneth Gladney (I know, he had it coming because darkies ain't supposed to leave the plantation else they get whupped), and all the other acts of violence perpetrated since '08.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39844442/ns/us_news/?ocid=twitter
I reiterate, I'm glad the woman wasn't more hurt. Sounds like the Paul campaign has handled itself correctly in this case.
Is it just me or was the statement from the Conway campaign kinda sexist?
Not that dear old Ann will allow it to disturb her narrative, but one of the persons guilty of the assault (which was clearly criminal, except in the mind of the deluded) has been identified, by name, as a 9/12 - Tea Party activist. It would have been pretty interesting if Ann had been around for the assassination of Martin Luther King. Clearly, because the assassin was not immediately taken into custody, she would have written, it must have been a NAACP set-up designed to besmirch the right. Ah, the missed opportunities.
Really rpewing?
You're going to compare this to an assassination? Are you really that tone deaf?
What is called when a bunch of names I don't regularly see here suddenly are on Ann's case? Did the Daily Kos send out trolling orders?
Geez, all the left did was print up a phony TANG document to sink Bush, and planted a noose on their door, and faked a kidnapping, and faked global temperature data, and wrote phony war brutality stories, and had vote recounts ad nauseum that always went to the Democrats,
....and now no one believes jack shit of what they say.
Weird!
i'm straining to hear the right wing goons on here apologize for being so foolish as to stick up for these thugs.... wait. wait...nope that wasn't it....let's all just stay still for a few...maybe an "I'm sorry for being so stupid as to doubt my lyin' eyes" refrain will pop into someone's head...that is if anything pops into some heads...ever.
Hey Ann? How's that "skepticism" coming along?
Did someone just say "Staged by the left"? Occam's razor, anyone?
I suppose the left also staged the "arrest" or a journalist by Joe Miller's jackbooted thugs.
Are you guys really so blinded by partisanship that you can't see anyone of your side ever doing anything wrong? So much so that you have to start throwing around conspiracy theories in the face of video evidence?
During the healthcare debate, all of you kept hankering for 'video evidence' that black congressmen had been harassed, like the lack of it proved the congressmen were lying. Now you HAVE that evidence - and you say its a conspiracy by the left?
Really? The cognitive dissonance is mind boggling.
Watched the youtube version. This is such a fake. I have seen better acting in a high school play. They "tear off" her wig, then it goes back on... to be "torn off" again? Then the stomper places his foot, waits the the photo Op, then "stomps". Move-on needs to hire better actors. Seesh, I was expecting a ketchup pack explosion of fake blood to top it off.
And once again, I say to the american left: Please rediscover the second amendment. You are going to need it real soon. The republicans are going to take away your guns and your bullets. Stock up. Ahem.
Apologize that we think the left is bullshitting?
Apologize that some guys tackled a crazy person rushing a candidate?
Wha-a-a?
Don't you know, hdhouse? No one believes anything the left says anymore.
Hilarious.
Joe Miller has "jack-booted" thugs? Really?
Is that the best you have?
Still waiting to hear Alpha, garage, HD, etc., say anything about the Tea Partier who had his finger bitten off, Kenneth Gladney (I know, he had it coming because darkies ain't supposed to leave the plantation else they get whupped), and all the other acts of violence perpetrated since '08.
I'm still waiting for the infamous Gladney beating video. How come no one wants to ever link to it?
The Paul campaign has admitted it was one of their volunteers. So much for 'staged'
"so blinded by partisanship that you can't see anyone of your side ever doing anything wrong?"
Nah, we are not blind, but so jaded by repeated leftist bullshit that we no longer believe anything that happens on the left.
Everything you do is theater, so why beieve you now?
Thanks to all who brought up that woman with the B carved in her face. I was one of the first to call bullshit on that.
Also... " Zachary Paul Sire said...
Did she file a police report?
Why yes, she did.
http://wtvq.com/news/5524-last-debate
Fail.
Um. Fail back at you. I read the linked article. It says "An assault report was filed...." I don't know that the woman signed a statement that would expose her to charges of making a false report. That's what I'm trying to find out. Find me something that says who did what. I assume the police made their own report. That's not the point.
Yes, Salamandyr. And I am quite sure I can find video evidence for that, but you can google just as well as me. Thugs working for a 'security company' - a company operating without a business license. What would you call them?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTXBOgPCh9w
First video that comes up if you type in "Kenneth Gladney Beating" in Google.
Democrats: the Andy Kaufman Party.
Are we being beaten, are we staging a beating, or are we being restrained?
Meh, who cares?
Bullshit lefty theater agitprop, eliciting the desired "attack".
The video I linked was for Garage's benefit.
BTW, Ankur, I've no idea what you're talking about, but I'm happy to see a fellow NRA member join the discussion. We can never have too many 2nd Amendment proponents.
So what website did you wander over from?
AlphaLiberal, your ratio of 7:1 is correct, however it is the democrats who are raking in the huge corporate and UNION donations at a 7:1 rate. But, I've got to hand it to you. You've got those liberal talking "lie" points down pat.
Mea culpa. I was wrong again about the right wingers in Kaintuck. Yes, Rand Paul draws a very strange group of followers.
Identity of the stomper:
Tim Proffitt - Rand Paul's bourboun county coordinator.
HDHouse said...
i'm straining to hear the right wing goons on here apologize for being so foolish as to stick up for these thugs.... wait. wait...nope that wasn't it....let's all just stay still for a few...maybe an "I'm sorry for being so stupid as to doubt my lyin' eyes" refrain will pop into someone's head...that is if anything pops into some heads...ever.
Hey Ann? How's that "skepticism" coming along?
I'm strainin' my eyes to see all the Lefties tell the truth. Nobody here stuck up for anybody, except guys like Alpha fronting for the PurpleShirts. People wanted to know what happened, but I have yet to see anyone applauding what happened. Many were suspicious - the man (not thugs, plural), Profitt, said he was concerned about Rand Paul's safety (gee, I wonder why), thus the takedown (and, to me, it looked quite professional - intended to restrain, but not injure. If the man wanted to hurt her, he could have done it) - and still are, given the woman's lack of injuries and her insouciant manner before the CNN cameras. Given the hysteria and hyperbole intended to inflate the incident into more than it was, most of the lying appears to be on the Left, as usual.
But, then, maybe it's to divert attention from the fact that, a week out, the Demo vote-stealing machine is already in high gear.
http://twitter.com/steitzerpolitic/status/28817864710#
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lPOV8FZAOCI/TMcucg1WX5I/AAAAAAAACLE/0i7wlLgSXUk/s1600/curbstomper4.jpg
There is a Bourbon County in Kentucky? Sounds appropriate.
Salamandyr, I've been a long time lurker.
And I probably WOULD be an NRA member if they were truly a single issue group. But they aren't, so I'm not.
Well Ann this time it looks like your bullshit call was wrong-- check out the latest reports on who took responsibility-- hint a volunteer with Paul's Senate campaign.
So we have a non-stomping take-down restraint of a lefty lunatic wearing a wig and rushing a candidate.
Man, you can just smell the leather on those jackboots!
There is a Bourbon County in Kentucky? Sounds appropriate.
"This county's dry as a martini and has the alcoholics to prove it"
Pardon if someone has already pointed this out, but isn't the coincidence of the minor Klein-Chait spat about violent rhetoric followed by something that gets sold as "curb stomping", well, suggestive?
Tim Profitt can expect a lot of scrutiny in the coming days. Progressive activists have been trying for a long time to hit the Tea Party with false-flag operations, and it will be interesting to see what Mr. Profitt did with his time in earlier election cycles.
Has ANYONE checked out Gateway Pundit which has photos of Lauren Valle of Foulmouth, MA painting a bridge over the Mississippi in May and getting ARRESTED for doing so.
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/10/unhinged-rand-paul-attacker-lauren-valle-is-professional-far-left-activist/#comment-215000
Lauren is a paid agent provacateur by international criminal George Soros and his criminal organization "Media Mutters" and "Think Process," two Marxist organizations that would make Alger Hiss, currently burning in hell, proud.
The "stomper" comes forward.
Good. I'm glad he did. I don't agree with him - it didn't just "appear overly forceful", it was criminal (battery?) IMO.
However, he didn't "stomp" on her head either. He stupidly put his foot on her shoulder and pushed. She appears to bump her head but his foot never touched her head - and she appears later in the video in good shape for an interview.
/shrug
Prosecute him. And the others that put her on the ground in the first place. All of it is criminal behavior, they don't have any business touching her.
Yes, Dave in Boca. She was just asking for it.
Yup. Thanks for pointing that out.
ahhhh I get it now.
Wife rushes into kitchen to bring husband dinner. Husband sees wife rushing. Thinks she is a wacko anyway. Senses danger. Takes down wife. Steps on her head. Tells her she is to blame for sliding her hed under his foot. slops beer down his shirt and burps. can't trust a woman. can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em. always bitchin. just a little taunt..hell that foot on your neck didn't hurt honey...gimmmeee a kiss and i'll forgive you.
Yup. sounds like the right wing at home for dinner time. a few of you must really light up someone's life.
Ms. Althouse:
I'm not exactly a frequent reader/poster but can't imagine I would ever be given you seem to have conceded this space to AlphaLiberal's paranoid delusional rantings and uber-liberal talking points.
Sorry if you disagree, but much more of the idiocy of analytical gems like:
"American democracy was thrown to the curb by the activist Roberts court who passed the Citizens United decision, giving secret corporate money free reign."
may soon reduce the number of posters down to two: you and Captain Kool-Aid.
Wife rushes into kitchen to bring husband dinner. Husband sees wife rushing. Thinks she is a wacko anyway. Senses danger. Takes down wife. Steps on her head. Tells her she is to blame for sliding her hed under his foot. slops beer down his shirt and burps. can't trust a woman. can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em. always bitchin. just a little taunt..hell that foot on your neck didn't hurt honey...gimmmeee a kiss and i'll forgive you.
You're a deplorable human being. When did you stop beating your wife HD?
David - good riddance. take Alpha with you.
David,
Althouse is a strong believer that the best rebuttal to speech is more speech. If alpha's mutterings bother you so much, rebut them, don't just demand they be "stricken from the record".
hdhouse, get used to it.
Everything from the left is now suspected as being bullshit first.
Everything requires verification.
What this incident tells me is that nothing the left says or does is taken at face value any longer.
I find that fact sobering, actually. Significant. As if some tipping point has just passed, nearly unnoticed.
@ HDHouse
That has to be the stupidest argument I've ever heard anyone make in the comments here at Althouse. A husband KNOWS his own wife, lives in the same house with her, sleeps in the same bed with her, etc. The Rand Paul guys apparently didn't know this woman at all, and had no idea of what nefarious things she might be up to. Totally different situations to anyone with firing synapses.
Strangely enough, I am sure I can find someone on the left saying the exact thing that Pogo just said - about right wingers.
Welcome to a post partisan world, where everyone believes that their side has all the virtue and the opposite side as all the evil.
After all, how would we reconcile the fact that societies and human beings are complex with out preconceived notions if we did NOT simplify the world into black and white, right and wrong?
Remember though - such simplification is intellectually lazy, and frequently misguided.
Can someone tell me why the lady was wearing a wig? Was she dressed like Hannah Montana?
Have to love the right-wing:
Blame the Lefty victim! It must have been staged! That guy stomping her is probably MoveOn as well! Hey, it's not that bad of a stomp, and it isn't really aimed at her head!
Oh wait, it is confirmed that it is a Paul supporter? Oh, well, she must have deserved it I guess! She was "getting ready to do something" - see, they had to stop her by stomping on her. We couldn't possibly let her go forward with an incredibly lame stunt like handing him a fake award saying he's in the pocket of corporations. Violence was definitely called for!
Anyone else remember back when Ann was actually a fair blogger? When she would call out both Republicans and Democrats for their stupid behavior? Nowadays, every bit of bad news must be the fault of the Democrats. Anything that looks to be bad news for Republicans must either be ignored completely, or twisted so ridiculously that she can blame it on the Dems.
You have become absolutely pathetic, Ann.
James is echoing his Daily Kos talking points for 10/26/2010.
Can someone tell me why the lady was wearing a wig? Was she dressed like Hannah Montana?
I have a feeling it was to help provoke a reaction. She was after political theater, and got her wish, even if it wasn't exactly the theater she was after.
"Strangely enough, I am sure I can find someone on the left saying the exact thing that Pogo just said - about right wingers."
Phthth.
That's always been the case.
What's different is that now the left doesn't get a free pass on all its stories like they used to. They ran the media and most everyone believed what they said.
Now no-one believes anything from the left, just like the right has been treated as lying liars.
It is that fact i find significant.
The world that operates on low-trust or complete distrust is a very difficult one.
Very, very difficult.
We seemed to have turned a corner here.
"The policemen looked at him and said that's not our job."
In 2000, my family and I went to a friend's High School Graduation in Riverside, California. We arrived early to get and save seats for relatives of the graduate including his great grandparents, who had driven 2,800 miles to attend, with others coming from 9 different states.
About 10 minutes before the ceremony began, the aisles in front of our lower level bleacher seats were filled with about 30 people, all black, standing and visiting with people in the back rows of the seats, blocking the aisle and obstructing the view. Several people asked them to move, and were ignored. When my 11 year old nephew tapped one of the men in the group on the back to ask him to move, the man said, loud enough to be heard by everyone in the immediate area, "shut up!" and the gave him a long menacing look.
Seeing this, I went directly to two Riverside Police Officers who were standing on the edge about 40 yards away and told them what happened and could they help clear the area.
"We don't help with that here, that's the school."
"So, what is going to become an escalated situation because of the rudeness ofand because of the color of the people involved will become a super-escalated situation is not something you care to be involved in preventing?"
" You need to find a school official, sir".
I found a school official about 10 yards away and went through the explanation. Her word for word response: "We don't want to involve ourselves in the seating right now".
As the graduating students began entering, the thoughtless crowd of people continued blocking the way, stayed there, talking loudly.
The family of the friend we came to see left the ceremony right then, as well as about a hundred other upset people. I went to the police and told them "thank you for nothing" as we left. One of them told me to come back. I told them none of their business, and took their names down. Then I told them "So, if I had said there's going to be a nigger fight here, would you have reacted?" They looked at each other and the same guy again asked my name. I again told him "none of your business" and "Fuck you very much".
I knew there was nothing they could do. My letter about the incident to the editor was published in the local paper, the Press-Enterprise, with the names of the officers and school official withheld by the paper.
I drove to Riverside for the graduation the next year to observe. The area where the thoughtless black group was was now monitored on either end by police in uniform.
Idiot police. Idiot School Board. Idiot Group of Black people.
At least they learned.
Interesting how she suffered a concussion from having her shoulder stepped on, as you claimed.
"Must be staged!"
oh...
"She's an agent provocateur! She asked for it!"
um..
"Why is she wearing a wig??!!"
what's next?
"There is a field out beyond right and wrong. I will meet you there." -rumi
"what's next?"
No one cares, actually.
It's already a non-story.
Theater fail.
What is the left to do when their most reliable tactics no longer work?
What can the left do when no one believes them even when they are telling the truth?
"Must be staged!"
oh...
"She's an agent provocateur! She asked for it!"
um..
"Why is she wearing a wig??!!"
what's next?
Ankur, just because she had something bad happen to her, doesn't make her reasons for being there admirable. She was there to embarass and/or disrupt the Paul campaign. Congratulations, she succeeded.
Every liberal responding here today in emotion hasn't looked at all of the facts.
Every liberal responding here today in emotion is void of reason on this incident.
Every liberal responding here today in emotion appears to be extrapolating the incident into something larger to fit their prejudices and hatred.
Every liberal responding here in emotion is, for today, a willful idiot.
These are the people that panic in situations and make them far worse for everyone.
Where'd she get the money to travel to Kentucky to pull such a lame stunt?
Who else was with her? Who filmed the incident?
Is she a convicted felon yet due to her prior idiocy? If so, has she lost the right to vote?
Where did she get her degree in womyns & gender studies?
I have to say that ankur is my favorite with his extrapolating from something with no evidence of having happened (epithets shouted at black oongressmen) to now using this completely unrelated incident as evidence that something happened to black congressmen.
Now THAT's how a liberal sees reality!
I think Chase needs some help with reading comprehension. I can't remember making any assertion for or against the veracity of what actually happened or did not happen with the black congressmen.
Try again.
http://hosted2.ap.org/WTICAM/b7538a1b675b4d059de3e728edc01923/Article_2010-10-26-US-Kentucky-Senate-Scuffle/id-bf43f8ce648549728a96b30b76643132
Rand Paul county coordinator owned up to it, without apologizing.
Wrong again, Ann. At least your consistent.
And your lack of comprehension/ deliberate mis-characterization is even more amusing when juxtaposed with this:
"Every liberal responding here today in emotion hasn't looked at all of the facts.
Every liberal responding here today in emotion is void of reason on this incident.
Every liberal responding here today in emotion appears to be extrapolating the incident into something larger to fit their prejudices and hatred.
Every liberal responding here in emotion is, for today, a willful idiot.
These are the people that panic in situations and make them far worse for everyone."
@Ankur
Yeah, I'll bet you advised Conway to sign off on that AquaBuddha ad---went over real well, didn't it? Conway's lost 11 points after losing it on the debating stage just like Lauren Valle lost it on purpose hoping to get her piehole smacked...!
Libturds so out of control, they themselves never know what they're gonna do...!
salamandyr said:
"Ankur, just because she had something bad happen to her, doesn't make her reasons for being there admirable. She was there to embarass and/or disrupt the Paul campaign. Congratulations, she succeeded."
I don't have any misconceptions about the woman. I fucking hate the MoveOn people. Almost everything they do is a complete embarrassment for everyone who isn't an insanely hardcore leftist, and the "General Betray-us" thing was both disgusting and incredibly stupid.
The point is - on the one side, we have an idiot lefty who is trying to give Rand Paul a lame "award" for supposedly being in the pocket of corporations. On the other side, we have Paul supporters committing acts of violence to stop her.
But it is still nearly impossible to find any right-wing who will unequivocally condemn the Paul volunteers. Even after their initial reaction of "It must be staged, all the people involved must be MoveOn as well" has been proven false, the most we can get from the most "reasonable" right-wingers are comments along the lines of "Well, I don't condone what they did (but come on, she basically deserved it)" And those are the most reasonable ones. The rest seem to be in complete denial that anyone other than the lefty could have possibly done anything wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTXBOgPCh9w
Annotation provided by the St. Louis Activist Hub:
At the beginning of the video, both Gladney and McCowan are laying on the ground. Gladney gets up, and is being restrained from attacking McCowan, when Perry Molens comes up and pulls Gladney backwards onto the ground yelling “get off him!” (0:03 in the video)
Another man is standing protectively over Rev. McCowan as McCowan is laying on the ground. Later in the video, Kenneth Gladney can be heard saying, “I’m gonna beat the s**t outta him. That’s what I’m gonna do” (1:10) So the video suggests that Gladney was an active participant in the fight, and possibly the instigator.
Gladney ended the evening in better shape than McCowan. X-rays taken that night showed the Reverend McCowan's shoulder was dislocated. Later, a CT scan and MRI showed fractures.
Okay, can someone PLEASE bring back the smart conservatives like Seven Nachos, and Traditional Guy, or even DustBunnyQueen?
"The "stomper" comes forward. He's a real Rand Paul volunteer, and he's apologized"
I've read his statement, he didn't apologize.
HERE is a lesson about the untrustworthiness of today's American liberal;
ankur,
I would expect you to be so lightly tethered to the truth - liberals hate accountability for themselves - that you can't even recall what you wrote above:
During the healthcare debate, all of you kept hankering for 'video evidence' that black congressmen had been harassed, like the lack of it proved the congressmen were lying. Now you HAVE that evidence - and you say its a conspiracy by the left?.
As to requoting my list about liberals:
Thank you for proving my point.
Again, try re-reading.
The first part of the comment is a comment regarding YOUR requirement for video evidence. The second part of the comment is regarding last nights event for which there IS video evidence.
I suspect you are the only one in this forum who didn't catch that the two parts were referring to two different things.
brantl - what's there to apologize for? He did a take down on a Marxist provocateur, which frankly is what they deserve. She should count herself lucky she doesn't have a mouth full of broken teeth.
Now we'll see if ankur will take responsibility for how clearly he wrote or not.
My bet is: not.
Salamandyr, yes you did. Thank you for being intellectually honest.
I am sorry Chase, but I am not about to take responsibility for your inability to hold two separate ideas in your head simultaneously.
I made no requirement for video evidence ankur.
Lying and misrepresentation is easy for liberals like you, isn't it?
I'm sure these Rand supporters were just following the advice of our president and punishing their enemies.
This is an interesting post from Althouse. Especially, the way it's "evolved." So, it does pass her own test, though not in the way she'd like.
The author's thinking is weak. It's pitiful when folks are driven to desperately cram reality into a flawed, emotion based framework. To be sure, it is a lot harder to look for, and suss out the true meaning because preconceptions can get in the way and mislead. Even so, lame is lame.
At least it's interesting to watch such flailing and failing.
Of course, I'm guessing that Althouse would rather be interesting by having folks laugh w/ her, instead of having them laugh at her.
She shouldn't worry: nobody can win em' all.
You didn't? In that case, let me rephrase:
The first part of the comment you linked is a comment regarding CONSERVATIVES' requirement for video evidence. The second part of the comment is regarding last nights event for which there IS video evidence.
Does that clear the fog a little bit?
deleted earlier comment because it was addressed to Ankur when I was responding to James...who was responding to something I wrote as a response to Ankur.
The point was...I did condemn this act, as did several other people.
Addendum: We also pointed out that this is 1 instance to the Left's I don't know how many, and that the Left has a history of staging these kinds of stunts.
I do think, now that we know that this wasn't staged, we should condemn it.
Fen, thanks for the link.
The more times I watch the video the more phony it becomes.
Clearly staged,except to liberals staring into the election abyss.
Nice try, no cigar.
A Lauren Valle participated in a Greenpeace protest in Port Fourchon, LA, where they painted signs on a Shell Oil offshore drilling support ship. The signs suggested that Shell might do to the coast of Alaska what BP had done to the Gulf of Mexico, and that it might not be such a good idea.
1pbj - and that's the sound of one hand clapping.
Nope, not good enough ankur - you are again being your typical liberal self - avoiding personal accountability for the words you wrote.
That's okay ankur. My wife teaches the mentally challenged 3 nights a week for the county school system. They have similar personal responsibility issues in common with your evasivness issues. I un-der-stand you, an-kur.
Well I see that Ann is still giving her Althouse Hillbillies their daily diet of red meat no matter how foolish it makes her look.
Denver, YOU look like an idiot. Does that bother you at all?
Sorry chase, but I am forced to concluded that you are a liar.
Nowhere in any of my posts have I claimed any opinion regarding what happened to the black congressmen.
concluded=conclude
ankur, you are a liar and worse - a willful liar.
You can have the last word as I am leaving for a meeting.
But you can't change the fact that you switch the very words you wrote.
Again, you are evading accountability - but we all know you can't help it.
The more all our sons of Dr Joe distort this, the more they make the case it was a put-up job.
From where are the talking points coming, Puffington or Kos?
Oh, that's right, MoveOn. and Dr Evil.
brantl said...
"The "stomper" comes forward. He's a real Rand Paul volunteer, and he's apologized"
I've read his statement, he didn't apologize.
Lie.
From the Fox story I linked, "'I'm sorry that it came to that, and I apologize if it appeared overly forceful, but I was concerned about Rand's safety,' Profitt told The Associated Press."
Oh boy, the short bus took a wrong turn and ended up at Althouse!
This was not a false flag operation, as it turns out. Paul staffer apologizes for the stomp:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/26/rand-paul-supporter-apologizes-scuffle-outside-debate/
There's no apology to the victim here:
I'm sorry that it came to that,
means "I'm sorry she provoked me," and
I apologize if it appeared overly forceful
Means "I'm sorry if I looked like a thug"
Finally, but I was concerned about Rand's safety,
Means "She deserved everything she got."
The Unabomber was anti-"industrial-technological system." This may make him a luddite/anarchist, and his particular vision may be his own Utopia, but that doesn't make him a leftist.
On second thought, I guess one could compare him to Pol Pot in his desire to return to "agrarian values."
Lexington police just announced they've served Profitt with a criminal summons:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/lexington-police-former-rand-paul-volunteer-with-criminal-summons.php?ref=fpbrk
"Means "She deserved everything she got.""
She got the film she wanted, yes?
Win-win.
This was not a false flag operation, as it turns out.
Unless you count wearing a Rand Paul shirt, carrying Rand Paul sign, wearing a wig, and not being a constituent.
"Why is she wearing a wig??!!"
what's next?
Clearly asking about a choice of hair accessory on a 23 year old girl is a sign of the apocalypse.
I bet she was just trying to get more mileage out of her halloween costume!
Kenneth Gladney. Your move, lefty idiots.
Not definitive, but it merits a skeptical approach.
1. Picture is just too perfect--a close up of the head from a perfect angle. How the hell do you pull that off?
2. No context--you don't see the before and after.
3. Nobody seems excited or agitated. That's pretty unusual for an act of violence.
4. Woman calmly accepts the light foot on her shoulder. No sense of avoidance.
5. Woman's companions do not seem to be raising a fuss.
Who made the video? What else is on their camera? Who is this woman? Why are we here, anyway?
Kenneth Gladney.
Over to you, libtards.
Nothing here to condemn, rather to be praised.
The woman was attempting to rush the candidate while holding something in her hands, and the crowd took her down, which is what they should do.
As for the "spitting incident," the videos fairly clearly shows the Congressman walking close to the ropeline - which was courageous of him, if incautious - and walking into the "spittle" of an over-exuberant protestor. The Congressman quite understandably stopped and remonstrated with the individual for his out-of-control shouting. End of story.
As far as I know, the Congressman has never claimed that anything happened beyond what I have described above. The wild claims have all come from other sources.
Don't worry cons, the first amendment still permits the stomping of shoulders and necks (but not heads) of folks who are holding signs and talking in public while wearing a wig. And, it permits turning your public schools into church schools or mosques (depending on a majority vote of the local school board).
P.S. You can also handcuff reporters.
You (including corporations, who are people too) are getting your country back!!!
I don't know about anyone else, but when I see an elderly woman with a wig on - my first impulse to throw her to the ground and step on her neck.
The victim. You mean the woman wearing the wig, the disguise, the one with the sign, the embarrassing sign, the one who was noticed earlier, the one who the men in blue, the city's finest no doubt, said wasn't their job to notice, the one who rushed the stage, the woman who admitted her intent was to embarrass the candidate by being photographed with him and her sign? That one? No, apparently she did not appologize.
However, I am sorry. I'm sorry the woman didn't get her real due. Then we'd have worthwhile event and not this made up crap you insist on projecting.
"when I see an elderly woman"
Har har.
Elderly?
What are you, garage, 12 years old?
Paul supporter Tim Profitt said video of the scuffle made it appear worse than it was and he chided police for not stepping in....
"I'm sorry that it came to that, and I apologize if it appeared overly forceful, but I was concerned about Rand's safety," Profitt told The Associated Press....
What gets me is once the woman was on the ground how much of a threat was she really? There is never any reason for physical violence. Why has Rand not come forth to say he was sorry something like this happened???
So she's a paid protester:
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/10/unhinged-rand-paul-attacker-lauren-valle-is-professional-far-left-activist/
" There is never any reason for physical violence."
Never?!?
I can think of 17 just off the top of my head.
So she's a paid protester:
Who pays her?
Have you seen her W-2's?
The factchecking standard at Gateway Pundit is unknown to me.
The woman's a schmuck. She knows she's a schmuck. We all know she's a schmuck.
Schmuck's don't apologize. But the fact that she's a schmuck doesn't absolve us from doing what's right. Physically restraining the woman was the right call; by all appearances this went beyond mere restraint. As such, I think the Paul campaign made the right call by firing their staffer who roughed her up.
Kudoes to that guy for stepping up and admitting what he'd done. I wish he'd shown some restraint. I'm glad the woman isn't hurt too badly.
The factchecking standard at Gateway Pundit is unknown to me.
And to Gateway Pundit.
Garage: Don't say "step on her neck" it breaks the spell. You have to say "stomp on her head." Thanks for cooperating.
FLS: No W-2s for paid protesters. 1099s. Don't have to issue til the end of the quarter. Would have thought you knew that.
Who pays her?
CNN says she is an employee with MoveOn, so I would guess MoveOn.
Looks like he may be charged
Making excuses for someone for this is just absurdity. It's a crime regardless of who's being held on the ground or who the foot belongs to. I'm glad the video exists, otherwise we'd never know what really happened.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/10/26/kentucky.debate.scuffle/index.html
The police, who decided that it wasn't their job teach this lady a lesson, were obviously librul fascists.
Thankfully there was a Rand libertarian around to administer justice to this Move-on employed, wig wearing, sign holding, public speaking evil doer.
And, so it was written.
Amen.
This is a typical Hiterlian tactic employed by the left. One questionable violent incident and they go LOOK LOOK VIOLENT RIGHT WINGERS! THEY MUST BE ALL VIOLENT, DOWN WITH THE TEABAGGERS MUAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!
1pbj - I'm sure you had so much to say about the SEIU thugs who beat up Ken Gladney. A black man in a wheelchair for fucks sake.
"Can't we all just get along?" Rodney King[no relation to Larry]
I'm not sure that the police weren't in the right by not interfering with her prior to her rushing at Candidate Paul. Being a weirdo and trying to make a scene isn't a crime, and shouldn't be, especially at a political rally. That's free speech at its purest.
Once she lunged at the candidate, they should have been in position to stop her, which they obviously weren't. Had they been, this situation would probably have turned out better for everyone...well, except for the whatsherface the Moveon clown, who wouldn't have gotten her Kodak moment.
1jpb said...
Don't worry cons, the first amendment still permits the stomping of shoulders and necks (but not heads) of folks who are holding signs and talking in public while wearing a wig. And, it permits turning your public schools into church schools or mosques (depending on a majority vote of the local school board).
P.S. You can also handcuff reporters.
You (including corporations, who are people too) are getting your country back!!!
As always, when PB&J talks about cons, he's only referring what he's trying to pull; he can never make an argument with facts.
No stomp, restraint of unidentified person attempting to approach a candidate for public office. Would the Secret Service have been less gentle if this was '08 and the candidate Barack Hussein Obama?
No holding sign, but trying to break into a debate.
No reporter; a blogger who several times tried to force a confrontation, much like our damsel here.
PS Notice how our defenders of frail womanhood seem to have much less compassion when said woman isn't a Lefty?
A black man in a wheelchair for fucks sake.
He's walking around just fine in the famous beating video -- could SEIU employees have a divine healing touch?
Clyde said...
@ HDHouse
" The Rand Paul guys apparently didn't know this woman at all, and had no idea of what nefarious things she might be up to."
geesus....that lil' gal coulda beaten Dr. Paul to death with a piece of paper...now if someone had taken the time to read the piece of paper...what's that? what did you say? none of his brownshirts can read? oooohhhh they don't read english...ohhhhhhh ok.. danke sehr.
The rationalizations for criminal behavior are amazing including this from Althouse: Did they just melt back into the night? ( Yes that is what most criminals do) It's very convenient that these bad actors were wearing labels identifying them.( I guess that is because the were Paul supporters). Let us get a grip on what we are willing to accept and condone in the name of our favorite political party of the moment.
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