October 18, 2011

"President Obama and the Democratic leadership are making a critical error in embracing the Occupy Wall Street movement..."

"... and it may cost them the 2012 election, "says pollster Douglas Schoen (in the Wall Street Journal).
The protesters have a distinct ideology and are bound by a deep commitment to radical left-wing policies. On Oct. 10 and 11, Arielle Alter Confino, a senior researcher at my polling firm, interviewed nearly 200 protesters in New York's Zuccotti Park. Our findings probably represent the first systematic random sample of Occupy Wall Street opinion.

Our research shows clearly that the movement doesn't represent unemployed America and is not ideologically diverse. Rather, it comprises an unrepresentative segment of the electorate that believes in radical redistribution of wealth, civil disobedience and, in some instances, violence. Half (52%) have participated in a political movement before, virtually all (98%) say they would support civil disobedience to achieve their goals, and nearly one-third (31%) would support violence to advance their agenda....

Sixty-five percent say that government has a moral responsibility to guarantee all citizens access to affordable health care, a college education, and a secure retirement—no matter the cost. By a large margin (77%-22%), they support raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans, but 58% oppose raising taxes for everybody, with only 36% in favor. And by a close margin, protesters are divided on whether the bank bailouts were necessary (49%) or unnecessary (51%).
It's obviously risky for Obama to identify too closely with these people, but there are also risks in distancing himself. If you look at the various statements by Obama and his advisers, I think you'll see that they have positioned themselves in the middle ground with the message: We understand the protests as an emotional expression about current economic conditions. There's no identification with the protesters' abstract ideology or policy proposals — which Schoen's polling may reveal, but which are not that apparent in the protests. So Obama may have the right strategy: Characterize the protests as inarticulate cries of pain about problems that are real and that affect all Americans.

Schoen cites the 1970 elections — the midterm of the Nixon administration — when Democrats should have gained ground but lost by "aligning too closely with the antiwar movement hurt Democrats [as] many middle-class and working-class Americans ended up supporting hawkish candidates who condemned student disruptions." The Democrats who won, Schoen says, were the ones who acted enthusiastic about law and order. So Schoen — who was a pollster for Bill Clinton — recommends that Democrats eschew the "huge new spending programs and tax increases" that the protesters would like and please moderates by "opposing bailouts and broad-based tax increases."

But let's examine the 1970 analogy. The antiwar protesters pushed a very specific policy: ending the Vietnam War. A politician couldn't characterize their noise as an inarticulate cry of pain. If you sided with them, you were opposed to the war.

So I'm not convinced that moderate voters will punish Obama for taking his "I feel your pain" approach to the protesters. The rest of America also feels that pain, and Obama is good at performing empathy. Make it all very general and emotional, and let that emotional fuzz further obscure the already vague policy notions in the mushy heads of the protesters.

True, moderate Americans dislike disorder, but how hard is that to deal with? Up to a point, merge it with the "expression of pain" interpretation. And if it goes too far and there is actual violence, you do what all the moderate folk do when there is violence: Deplore it.

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Anonymous said...

Simply impose a massive fine and the promise of jail time on offending businesses.

Hoosier -- This has been discussed. You cannot make a business owner responsible because someone fraudulently misrepresented himself or herself. Think about it. Think about the implications.

Moreover, from a moral standpoint, the punishment must fit the crime.

J said...

This is class warfare and violence that has been stirred up by Dear Leader.

If you think he is going to be able to sit back and deplore it, then you and him have another thing coming.

Toad Trend said...

Eat your peas.

Hoosier Daddy said...

Then Seven we have much bigger issues if we have 12-15 million illegals walking around with fraudulent identification that allows them employment.

But I guess we should just day that's too big a problem to tackle as well.

Shit why not just grant universal citizenship to everyone?

Brian Brown said...

Love, who wholly supports OWS, is now crowing about the performance of the DOW under Obama (who is the right arm of Wall Street).

Priceless.

Brian Brown said...

.When did the recession begin?

After the Democrats took control of Congress.

What was the unemployment rate the day President Bush left office?


Lower than it is today after a $1 trillion dollar "stimulus" and cash for clunkers, and hundredes of billions wasted in "green jobs" spending. All done under Obama and Democratic Congresses.

Where did the DOW Jones stand the day he left office?

Um, the Dow isn't the economy, and I thought you hated those rich, evil, criminal Wall Street types?

Why, it is almost as if you're an incoherent moron or something.

Phil 314 said...

Was there ever a time when the commenters @ Althouse could sustain a rationale, non-expletive-filled, non-ad-hominem laden discussion?

wv: rubank. Geez, even wv is accusatory!

bagoh20 said...

"Was there ever a time when the commenters @ Althouse could sustain a rationale, non-expletive-filled, non-ad-hominem laden discussion?"

Everyone gets to sit at the same table here - crazy grandpas, drunk uncles, college brats home for the holidays, toddlers with full diapers, everyone. We can't afford a second table, and we love each other too much.

Phil 314 said...

We can't afford a second table, and we love each other too much.

RIIIIIIGHT

Hoosier Daddy said...

"... Was there ever a time when the commenters @ Althouse could sustain a rationale, non-expletive-filled, non-ad-hominem laden discussion?..."

Ask stupid questions and the answer typically follows suit.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

This has been discussed. You cannot make a business owner responsible because someone fraudulently misrepresented himself or herself. Think about it. Think about the implications.

Yes you can. The business owner needs to demonstrate that he used due diligence to check the ID. Social Security numbers are easily verifiable

So are driver's licenses. There exists multiple data bases to verify not only the number but often the photo.

There is NO excuse for the employer not performing at least these simple steps.

AllenS said...

When a pre-school or elementary school hires a teacher, one would hope that the school does due diligence to find out if new hire is a pedophile.

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