August 23, 2012

Ecce... oh, no!

"An elderly parishioner has stunned Spanish cultural officials with an alarming and unauthorised attempt to restore a prized Jesus Christ fresco."
Ecce Homo (Behold the Man) by Elias Garcia Martinez has held pride of place in the Sanctuary of Mercy Church near Zaragoza for more than 100 years.
Terrible and sad, but it's hard not to burst out laughing when you see what the well-meaning old lady did.
Cecilia Gimenez, who is in her 80s, was reportedly upset at the way the fresco had deteriorated and took it on herself to "restore" the image.

She claimed to have had the permission of the priest to carry out the job.

"(The) priest knew it! He did! How could you do something like that without permission? He knew it!"
 For the annals of good intentions

52 comments:

EMD said...

You didn't fix that.

Baron Zemo said...

My dear Lady...yet another post mocking people of faith.

Yes you will laugh at them. This poor woman's faith and her desire to honor it by repairing her church is most deserving of you mocking her.

You always do.

David R. Graham said...

Ecce Cecilia.

Marshal said...

The once-dignified portrait now resembles a crayon sketch of a very hairy monkey in an ill-fitting tunic, he says.

This seems to sum it up.

wef said...

Sorry, but it's difficult not to laugh over a story about some religion-addled old biddy trying to do something nice and ending up doing what religion-addled old biddies do.

Perhaps it's the anti-clericalism in me.

If the Spanish government would have just nationalized the churches and handed control of art over to the experts, none of this would have happened. Top Men must be put in charge.


Baron Zemo said...

Yes let us mock people of faith.

That is why this blog exists.

Rabel said...

Well, bless her heart.

Shanna said...

That picture cracks me up every time I see it.

wef said...

Yes, Baron, let's mock people "of faith" - superstitious busy-bodies and do-gooders in particular are easy to mock.

Of course, just to be even-handed, I like to see the mockery every once in a while of evangelical atheists, especially those who believe in good and evil.

Pogo said...

Ecce bozo.

EMD said...

Did the priest bless her heart?

lemondog said...

Oy....

bagoh20 said...

What? It's genius, you rubes!

The Crack Emcee said...

I think she did an OUTSTANDING job:

She captured the essence of Jesus' entire belief system perfectly.

And - for those of you insulted by our mockery - don't forget, you've chosen to be "fools for Christ," so suck it up, be stoic, and "turn the other cheek."

It is we who are under no such self-imposed limitations,...

Smilin' Jack said...

The once-dignified portrait now resembles a crayon sketch of a very hairy monkey in an ill-fitting tunic....

God was guiding her hand.

Methadras said...

Leftards and democrats know what good intentions are like. They think they see a problem and then they try to fix it and they just fuck it up. Kinda like this fresco.

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Methadras said...

By the way, I'm waiting for South Park to make an episode about this.

phx said...
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prairie wind said...

She had touched it up once before, it says, so her protests that the priest knew about it was probably correct.

Lem said...

Well, bless her heart.

Dog whistle ;)

Baron Zemo said...

It is fine to mock this poor woman my Dear Crack. Enjoy it. Revel in it.

She is just an old woman who loves her God and tried to do her best to honor him by repairing an image.

She is worthy of your scorn.

Just be aware that you reveal who you really are by what you do.

Much like our esteemed blog mistress who can never resist mocking the religious and their quaint ways.

elkh1 said...

Good intentions and all that.

Is that a "bless her heart" moment?

Issob Morocco said...

Somewhere Rowan Atkinson is smiling.

bagoh20 said...

This really has nothing to do with religion. It could just as well have been a rare painting of George Washington in a museum "fixed" by an atheist cleaning woman, and it would be just as funny...or beautiful, I guess.

Quaestor said...

wef wrote:
If the Spanish government would have just nationalized the churches and handed control of art over to the experts, none of this would have happened. Top Men must be put in charge.

/sarc on, I trust...

The same Top Men in charge of Spain's economy?

The Crack Emcee said...

Baron Zemo,

It is fine to mock this poor woman my Dear Crack. Enjoy it. Revel in it.

Oh yeah, like ALL I'm mocking is an old woman. The belief system gets a total pass, but that one good intentioned old woman? Why I'm ready to slap a "dunce" cap on her and hit her with rotten tomatoes in the public square.

That's the reframing you're attempting here, right?

Like I said, "Fools For Christ"....

Quaestor said...

Send in Ben Long.

Quaestor said...

I'm not religious. In fact I'm a small "a" atheist, by which I mean my atheism is an absence of belief merely, and not a counter-belief in the foolishness or gullibility of believers. As long as believers leave me alone, and refrain from confusing science and religion, I grant them the tolerance I wish they'd grant me. Which is why I must disagree with Crack.

A "some religion-addled old biddy" f-ed up a minor fresco, so what? This could just as easily been the work of a secular dilettante. I know a few self-professed "artists", persons whose confidence exceeds their talent, who could pull a similar boner without any religious motivation.

Like I said, "Fools For Christ"....

Very clever, but what do you do with the geniuses for Christ?

jeff said...

"And - for those of you insulted by our mockery - don't forget, you've chosen to be "fools for Christ," so suck it up, be stoic, and "turn the other cheek."

It is we who are under no such self-imposed limitations,..."

Which is the reason Islam is rarely mocked. At least publicly. Which makes the ones that do mock Christianity kind of chicken shit, but whatever floats your boat.

Tibore said...

"Quaestor said...
... A "some religion-addled old biddy" f-ed up a minor fresco, so what? This could just as easily been the work of a secular dilettante. I know a few self-professed "artists", persons whose confidence exceeds their talent, who could pull a similar boner without any religious motivation."


Quaestor is right. What it truly is is a case of a piece of artwork getting screwed up. Concentrating on the religious aspect of the narrative is missing the point.

Baron Zemo said...
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Baron Zemo said...

I would no more mock an old woman who tried to restore the face of our Lord than I would mock a so called man who was so worthless as a husband and a lover that his bride had to go on a murder spree to occupy her time.

God has his own way of responding to those who mock him.

In his own way and in his own time.

Icepick said...

It is we who are under no such self-imposed limitations,..

Well, we could decide to not act like a dick.

Astro said...

Ecce Curious George.

Anglelyne said...
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Anglelyne said...

BZ: She is just an old woman who loves her God and tried to do her best to honor him by repairing an image.

Oh come on, Baron. It's awful. And funny, And scary looking. All at once. It's just face-palm, guffaw, lord help us godawful. How can one not comment? They're face-palming and guffawing all over some of the Catholic blogs I follow, so it's not all about "mocking faith".

Besides, we don't really know much about the poor old thing who got in over her head. I doubt many, if any, of the "mockers" aren't feeling sorry for her. But come on. You have to have a heart of stone...

Nick Carter M. said...

Baron Zemo said...
"My dear Lady...yet another post mocking people of faith.


Yes you will laugh at them. This poor woman's faith and her desire to honor it by repairing her church is most deserving of you mocking her.

You always do."


Oh come on, I burst out laughing too and I'm a man of faith. It;s hilarious. Sorry, I'm defending Althouse here. I don't think she mocks Christianity as much as she genuinely doesn't understand it.
Very, very few people do.

The Crack Emcee said...
"And - for those of you insulted by our mockery - don't forget, you've chosen to be "fools for Christ," so suck it up, be stoic, and "turn the other cheek."

It is we who are under no such self-imposed limitations,..."


Yeah we're supposed to turn the other cheek, but eventually you run out of them.
The Anti-Chrisitan bigotry in our culture is pretty remarkable. Just more evidence we are living in the end times.

Jesus is going to make you all look like fools.
I know for a fact the Gospels are 100% true.

The Crack Emcee said...

Quaestor,

Very clever, but what do you do with the geniuses for Christ?

It didn't originate with me, but in a statement Jesus made about faith. As far as geniuses for Christ go, haven't seen any. Christopher Hitchens used to debate the cream of the crop (such as they are) and won every time. And I tried watching Ben Stein's movie on the existence of God, but it was so silly I couldn't finish it.

jeff,

"And - for those of you insulted by our mockery - don't forget, you've chosen to be "fools for Christ," so suck it up, be stoic, and "turn the other cheek."

It is we who are under no such self-imposed limitations,…"

Which is the reason Islam is rarely mocked. At least publicly. Which makes the ones that do mock Christianity kind of chicken shit, but whatever floats your boat.

You do know who you're talking to, don't you? Are you suggesting I haven't mocked Islam? Or are you merely one of those dummies who think the claim nobody does it, coupled with their propensity for violence, is some kind of a Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free card for silly beliefs? You know - Muslims act out and Christians silently reap the benefits from it? (Clever.)

Baron Zemo,

I would no more mock an old woman who tried to restore the face of our Lord than I would mock a so called man who was so worthless as a husband and a lover that his bride had to go on a murder spree to occupy her time.

God has his own way of responding to those who mock him.

In his own way and in his own time.

LOL. Christian hypocrisy at it's finest. That one post is a violation of your own stated beliefs on so many levels you might as well drop any pretense of calling yourself a Christian.
I certainly won't regard you as one.

Icepick,

We could decide to not act like a dick.

Now that's just silly. I'm a heathen. Why would I "decide" not to behave like one? So I can be as big of a hypocrite as Baron Zemo's example above (or jeff's "chickenshit" comment, or the Muslim in the video I linked to, or the Mormons in this one)?

No, I'm going to continue to laugh whenever these posers - or "our Lord" - fail to live up to their own teachings and claims, not trying to be nice while they attempt to control other's behavior.

You can fall for the smoke-and-mirrors routine if you choose, but me?

I'ma be as big a dick as the beliefs around me dick-tate.

That way, everyone knows I respect what's being said and done, even if they don't.

Steven said...

The woman's inspiration.

The Crack Emcee said...

Oh - and one more thing:

Baron Zemo,

I would no more mock an old woman who tried to restore the face of our Lord than I would mock a so called man who was so worthless as a husband and a lover that his bride had to go on a murder spree to occupy her time.

My wife was a believer. Somebody playing on your team. She went to church every Sunday, and killed while performing "faith healing." Religion and "spirituality" is how she occupied the majority of her time.

So I'd say, if I'm "worthless," that makes you and your beliefs - which drove you to make what YOU KNEW were ugly comments - even lower on the scale.

What religion drives people to do is but one reason why I'll never participate in it.

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The Crack Emcee said...

Here you go, Baron & Co.

Call me when you get yourselves straightened out,...

Kathy said...

I don't suppose I laughed out loud when I saw the image she came up with - I did smile - and I said "Bless her little artist's heart"...

Who knows what Picasso might have done with the project?

It would be fascinating to read an interview with her and listen to her discuss the restoration process she went through....she's a ninja artist IMHO.

Darrell said...

Give it up, Crack.
You beclown yourself so often that sometimes I don't bother to listen to you when you do have something worthwhile to say.

Freeman Hunt said...

Christopher Hitchens used to debate the cream of the crop (such as they are) and won every time.

Perhaps a minor point, Crack, but no, he didn't.

Quaestor said...

Crack wrote:
As far as geniuses for Christ go, haven't seen any. Christopher Hitchens used to debate the cream of the crop (such as they are) and won every time.

I was thinking of artistic geniuses as a counter-example to this poor idiot in Spain. Men like J.S. Bach, Titian, Michelangelo, Raphael, Tintoretto, El Greco, and on and on (the list is a long one).

Quaestor said...

I'm sure Cecilia Gimenez didn't set out to make Jesus look like a monkey in a bathrobe. I am also sure she was as shocked as anybody by the appearance of the "restored" fresco. When she finished her work with the paint still wet the job probably looked fairly good, not that this justifies her effort. But painting on plaster is not like painting on canvas, or any other medium most artists, amateur and professional, ever deal with.

Painting on dry plaster is almost impossible, unless one uses an airbrush. Dry plaster is extremely porous. Seen under a microscope the surface reveals a maze of tiny interconnected tunnels which will conduct paint by capillary action to areas you never touched with your brush, or to areas of different color.

To paint on plaster the plaster must be wet (Fresco is just Italian for fresh, as in fresh, wet plaster) Fresco painting is high speed art. If you don't finish the job before the plaster dries the plaster must be chipped off the wall and new plaster applied, you can't just re-wet the surface.

This is why fresco restoration is so difficult. Old frescoes can be cleaned, but if the plaster is chipped or eroded there's little that can be done about the missing paint. Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel is a good example. There was a major restoration effort started in the 1970s which took decades to finish. They mainly cleaned the plaster of 400 years of soot from candle and incense smoke. The Da Vinci "Last Supper" restoration was also a cleaning, but less successful than the Sistine Chapel project because the plaster had been damaged by mildew.

The reason why paint is applied to wet plaster is that the water fills the spaces that become those tiny tunnels evident in dry plaster. Since oil and water don't mix the paint floats on the water and doesn't penetrate deep enough to be drawn off by capillary action to some other place on the surface. The paint dries before the water finally escapes, and forms little perforated caps over the pours which allows the whole creation to breathe along with the underlying medium, which is why frescoes can endure for many centuries with little maintenance.

Quaestor said...

not "pours", pores!

Don't Tread 2012 said...

This story is a fitting parallel!

A fitting parallel for our country...our government and the rubes that make it devastatingly destructive.

The original fresco is the imperfect, delicate identity that deserves careful deliberation and preservation, just like our country and its traditions deserve.

But, in the name of 'good intentions' (some would say deliberate destruction), the fresco is mutilated and irreparably harmed.

Sound familiar???

Don't Tread 2012 said...

methadras typed

"Leftards and democrats know what good intentions are like. They think they see a problem and then they try to fix it and they just fuck it up. Kinda like this fresco."

A brother from a different mother!

Alan said...

If she had to attack a classic work of art, why couldn't it have been Guernica?