Althouse: GOP convention.

August 28, 2012

GOP convention.

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ADDED: "Utah’s Mia Love Gets Enthusiastic Reception in Tampa."

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Nichevo said...: And, ironically, doesn't your response mean that you are fascinated by me? Hey, I know, maybe I struck a nerve!; 8/29/12, 2:29 AM
caseym54 said...: CNN had about 30 seconds of Love's speech, MSNBC none.

Is anyone else getting the sense that the coverage seems more aimed at getting talking heads their camera time rather than covering the convention.; 8/29/12, 3:14 AM
Anonymous said...: PatCA said...
Pretty effective opening night, thanks mainly to Obambi's foolish "you didn't build that" line..."

Particularly PatCA when that isn't what Obama either said or meant and pretty much everyone knows it.

That is what is so pathetic about the GOP. They have to gin up slogans out of whole cloth just to have someone to say. If they lie to this extent before the election what do you think they will do to you and us and the country after?

How can you respect a liar and a party that just "makes it up"?; 8/29/12, 4:50 AM
damikesc said...: Wasn't it nice that MSNBC cut off all speeches from non-white folks? Not even subtle about it now.; 8/29/12, 5:16 AM
Robert Cook said...: Thanks to Creely23, who enlightened me about "choom," (even considering your insults...don't worry , my feelings aren't hurt).

I don't know why, particularly, I should have known the reference, and I doubt most people do. I don't pay attention to books or stories about Obama's youth...I mean, who cares? Good president or bad--and Obama has been very bad--all the men in office were kids once, right?

More seriously, Obama has handily discredited himself as a phony and a sellout by his actions in office; accounts of his youthful pot-smoking hardly serve or are necessary to besmirch him further, and aren't even interesting. Similarly, Bush was also a terrible president, and it had nothing to do with his prior years as a party boy and drunk, or Clinton's as a horndog, (speaking of another bad president).

Fixating on such matters may be satisfying, in a childish way, but they are beside the point of the harm these men have wreaked as presidents.; 8/29/12, 5:22 AM
edutcher said...: The little animal doesn't even know what he talks about - especially about me, but we're all his groupies.

That's only because we quote him or refer to him - he's that starved for attention and self-esteem - just before we shoot his lies, half-truths, and non sequiturs full of holes.

Note how he can never come up with any rebuttals.

And The Blonde's name isn't Ann.; 8/29/12, 5:38 AM
Pookie Number 2 said...: Particularly PatCA when that isn't what Obama either said or meant and pretty much everyone knows it.

I don't think think that's true. The context of the line was Obama telling successful people that they shouldn't give themselves credit for their success, because lots of less-successful people are also smart and work hard. Since the entire context of that section was "your contributions don't explain your success," the only reasonable interpretation of Obama's comments is the Republicans'.; 8/29/12, 6:18 AM
Paco Wové said...: "They have to gin up slogans out of whole cloth"

Another "what the hell does this even MEAN?" comment from Angry Cigarette Woman... where do you think slogans come from? Of course they (or probably some campaign consultants) "made them up". You want them to start plagiarizing their slogans?; 8/29/12, 6:19 AM
Paco Wové said...: "Fixating on such matters may be satisfying, in a childish way"

You know, Cook, you and Bender have a lot in common -- you're both very big on impossibly high standards. Bender, for instance, will never get an actual candidate that is pure enough for him. And you, apparently, have never, and will never, experience a President who is worthy of you. (Has there ever been, in your estimation, a not-bad President?) Such unrealistic standards could be seen as a form of political immaturity - a flight from just growing up already and dealing with the world as it really is, not how you wish it to be.; 8/29/12, 6:24 AM
dreams said...: "Thus, the loving heart and the stiffened spine — compassionate but tough. Exactly the mix Romney needs to convince the American people to hand him the reins."

John Podhoretz's NY Post opinion of the two main speeches.; 8/29/12, 6:57 AM
damikesc said...: Another "what the hell does this even MEAN?" comment from Angry Cigarette Woman... where do you think slogans come from? Of course they (or probably some campaign consultants) "made them up". You want them to start plagiarizing their slogans?

Well, we have a probable Biden candidacy in 2016, so we will likely see that soon enough.; 8/29/12, 7:07 AM
Anonymous said...: Pookie Number 2 said...
"I don't think think that's true. The context of the line was Obama telling successful people that they shouldn't give themselves credit for their success,"

No it wasn't. The context was that successful people had people who helped them succeed - teachers, church, community and that they were also successful because a lot of people contributed to this country to create an atmosphere where people can succeed. Roads were built. Bridges were built. Massive public infrastructures allow business to succeed without obstacle.

That is what Obama said and meant and to represent otherwise is simple dishonest.; 8/29/12, 7:14 AM
furious_a said...: it's going to be interesting to see if the Choom gang can get that kind of enthusiasm going.

With the Angry Vagina Monologues speaker slate they've line up for Charlotte, what could go wrong"; 8/29/12, 7:27 AM
furious_a said...: The context was that successful people had people who helped them succeed.

I've noticed that in helpfully providing context the Choomers never once -- once -- mention "parents". Mommy/daddy daddy issues start at the top.

Bless your heart, dear -- the context only makes it worse.; 8/29/12, 7:30 AM
Wince said...: "...a lot of people contributed to this country to create an atmosphere where people can succeed."

Even if we accept your premise, the question is how many times over are we supposed to pay the govt for those things at hopelessly inflated prices for often poor quality because that's what serves the president's interest group backers?

And who is being ungrateful and dismissive of those who did pay for those things and is demanding even more?; 8/29/12, 7:30 AM
dreams said...: "Was this before, or after, they approved the platform planks calling for devoting federal spending to cracking down on consensual adult porn and online gambling? :)"

Do you think that is the most pressing issue facing our country?

Can't see the forest for the trees -

Unable to discern an overall pattern from a mass of detail; unable to see the big picture, or the broader, more general situation.; 8/29/12, 7:32 AM
B said...: That is what Obama said and meant and to represent otherwise is simple dishonest.

That is most assuredly NOT what Obama said and to represent differently is simple distortion.

I'm sure you can summon up a strident 'Bullshit' response, but unfortunately, what he said is on record.

And your opinion on what he 'meant' isn't worth squat. Again, his words and their context are a matter of record. It takes a very stupid person to ignore context and history when interpreting what he 'meant'. It takes a very ignorant person to offer a spin on what he meant as a lofty schooling of people who consider what he actually said as clear enough.

It is your fault that you are ignorant. Ignorance is curable. It may or may not be your fault that you're stupid. Stupidity is not curable.; 8/29/12, 7:34 AM
Lem the artificially intelligent said...: Roads were built. Bridges were built.

As long as we are not thanking God for anything and government for everything...; 8/29/12, 7:35 AM
Lem the artificially intelligent said...: How can you respect a liar?..

ha!; 8/29/12, 7:40 AM
Colonel Angus said...: Particularly PatCA when that isn't what Obama either said or meant

It's exactly what he said. Why do you insist he didn't say what is easily verifiable through written transcripts and video? Are you that blinded by partisanship? If he 'meant' something else then the greatest orator since Cicero did a piss poor job of articulating his meaning.; 8/29/12, 7:40 AM
Tank said...: Did not watch. Can't stand to mostly.

Robert Cook said...

Panic?

More like despair.

No matter who wins, the next President will be a schmuck *** and we all lose.
[distraction deleted]

Short, sweet, correct.

DEAD COUNTRY WALKING.; 8/29/12, 7:42 AM
Pookie Number 2 said...: No it wasn't. The context was that successful people had people who helped them succeed - teachers, church, community and that they were also successful because a lot of people contributed to this country to create an atmosphere where people can succeed. Roads were built. Bridges were built. Massive public infrastructures allow business to succeed without obstacle.

He wasn't saying "these factors explains your success," he was saying, "your success doesn't come from differences (smarts, hard work) between you and the unsuccessful". In that context, identifying another commonality (public infrastructure) makes no sense.; 8/29/12, 7:45 AM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: So Obama never said "You didn't build that" ? I'm pretty sure he did say "you didn't build that".
He said the exact words “You didn't build that" ... in context with the tortured Elizabeth Warren logic that how dare individuals take credit for their own accomplishments when said individuals should grovel and marvel at the roads and bridges that individuals already paid for with individual's hard work and tax dollars.; 8/29/12, 7:45 AM
Curious George said...: "Lindsey Meadows said...

No it wasn't. The context was that successful people had people who helped them succeed - teachers, church, community and that they were also successful because a lot of people contributed to this country to create an atmosphere where people can succeed. Roads were built. Bridges were built. Massive public infrastructures allow business to succeed without obstacle.

That is what Obama said and meant and to represent otherwise is simple dishonest."

What a steaming pile. All in America have the benefits of America. Roads. Infrastructure. Teachers. (You made up this church and community shit, Obama never said that). Shouldn't everyone be successful? But your pathetic explanation is betrayed by your pathetic POTUS...those that are succesfull have nothing to do with it:

"I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there."

How do you square that? If these people aren't smarter, or harder working, what? What separates them from all the rest? I mean "Massive public infrastructures allow business to succeed without obstacle." in your mind.; 8/29/12, 7:49 AM
Aridog said...: @Kathy ... your original link to Francesca Chambers' article about minorities being dropped from coverage by MSNBC is still up and working. At least on my cable connection in Detroit.

Excerpts here....

MSNBC wants you to think the Republican Party hates minorities ... [they] cut minority speeches from it’s convention coverage.

... Ted Cruz, the GOP nominee for Senate, took the stage, MSNBC cut away from the Republican National Convention and the Hispanic Republican.

MSNBC stayed on commercial through former Democratic Rep. Artur Davis’ speech, as well.

[When]... Puerto Rican Governor Luis Fortuno’s wife Luce’ Vela Fortuño [spoke]..., MSNBC hosts Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews opted to talk over the First Lady’s speech.

Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval ... missing from MSNBC, too.

Mia Love, a black candidate for Congress in Utah, was also ignored by MSNBC.; 8/29/12, 7:55 AM
Colonel Angus said...: That is what Obama said and meant and to represent otherwise is simple dishonest.

I see. So when a business fails can blame be laid upon those groups as well or do the goalposts move and failure is the business owners fault?

Obama clearly belittled the work of business owners by saying other people are smart and hardworking. Of course they are. Then again I'm smart, hardworking and took a big financial and personal risk in starting my business but to it appears that's small potatoes and I really need to thank my third grade teacher and pastor.; 8/29/12, 7:56 AM
Brian Brown said...: Lindsey Meadows said...

Particularly PatCA when that isn't what Obama either said or meant and pretty much everyone knows it.

You keep telling yourself that.

those lies help you get through the day.; 8/29/12, 8:00 AM
Anonymous said...: EDH said...
"...a lot of people contributed to this country to create an atmosphere where people can succeed."

Even if we accept your premise, the question is how many times over are we supposed to pay the govt for those things at hopelessly inflated prices for often poor quality because that's what serves the president's interest group backers?"

It wasn't my premise, it was what the president said and my premise is that the GOP has purposefully lied to the country about it.

And the next time you want a bridge built, build it yourself, or elect a local government that hires better contractors.

You folks are all for efficiency unless you specifically have to pay for it.; 8/29/12, 8:01 AM
Brian Brown said...: Lindsey Meadows said...
Bridges were built. Massive public infrastructures allow business to succeed without obstacle.

Right. Because if it weren't for "roads" all those apps in the Apple App store wouldn't be there.

Anyway, it is fun watching supporters of the most super-duper smartest President ever admit he doesn't understand the basic rules of grammar.; 8/29/12, 8:02 AM
Anonymous said...: "You keep telling yourself that.

those lies help you get through the day."

it is the truth and if you weren't so blinded by your hatred you would accept it.

point out specifically where what i said was a lie.; 8/29/12, 8:02 AM
Brian Brown said...: Lindsey Meadows said...

It wasn't my premise, it was what the president said and my premise is that the GOP has purposefully lied to the country about it.

No dum-dum, it actually was what the President said.

You're here trying to add "context"

And you're failing.; 8/29/12, 8:03 AM
Brian Brown said...: Lindsey Meadows said...

point out specifically where what i said was a lie.

All of it.

Every single word.

Does that help?; 8/29/12, 8:03 AM
Anonymous said...: Colonel Angus said...
" I really need to thank my third grade teacher and pastor."

You are damn right you need to thank other people for helping you succeed. What are you saying Colonel Sanders? That you never had an inspiring teacher who gave you direction? That you never benefited by public works? Go get a glass of water and flush the toilet.

You are defending what is contrary to life and common sense. Why do you do that? It makes you look arrogant and dumb.; 8/29/12, 8:05 AM
Michael Haz said...: We are so going to win this election. All the Dems have is fake issues about stuff that doesn't matter.

Our guys do math. Math wins.; 8/29/12, 8:06 AM
Anonymous said...: Jay said...
"Every single word.

Does that help?"

No it doesn't because you haven't bothered to look at the speech and what was said...not the half sentence that has become the GOP soundbite of ignorance.; 8/29/12, 8:07 AM
Curious George said...: Lindsey Meadows said...
"EDH said...
"...a lot of people contributed to this country to create an atmosphere where people can succeed."

Even if we accept your premise, the question is how many times over are we supposed to pay the govt for those things at hopelessly inflated prices for often poor quality because that's what serves the president's interest group backers?"

It wasn't my premise, it was what the president said and my premise is that the GOP has purposefully lied to the country about it.

And the next time you want a bridge built, build it yourself, or elect a local government that hires better contractors.

You folks are all for efficiency unless you specifically have to pay for it."

Non-responsive to all rebuttals. I'm shocked!; 8/29/12, 8:08 AM
Curious George said...: "Lindsey Meadows said...
You are damn right you need to thank other people for helping you succeed. What are you saying Colonel Sanders? That you never had an inspiring teacher who gave you direction? That you never benefited by public works? Go get a glass of water and flush the toilet.

You are defending what is contrary to life and common sense. Why do you do that? It makes you look arrogant and dumb."

I'll ask again, although I am quite certain you will not respond on point. All in america have the benefits of a teacher, and of public works. Why are they not all successful business people?; 8/29/12, 8:11 AM
Michael Haz said...: Seriously. The Dems have screaming women dressed as big pink vaginas and 20,000 muslims invited to a three day prayer ceremony.

Leadsership that has no budget and no economic plan beyond "spend".

Oh, and racism. Let's not forget that, It was writ large in MSNBC's coverage last night.; 8/29/12, 8:12 AM
furious_a said...: Roads were built.

Ever notice on the trailers of lease-operator trucks the decal that says "I paid $XX,XXX in road use taxes last year"?

Bridges were built.

In 1932 Bank of America bought the entire bond issue for the Golden Gate because the paper wasn't selling.

Resentment oozes from Obama's pores ("lot of smart people", "whole bunch of hardworking people"). Which is funny, seeing what an affirmative-action line-jumper he was. Lot of smart people applied to Columbia and and a whole bunch of hardworking people (who, unlike Obama, actually had published work) bucked for Harvard Law Review editor, too, you know.; 8/29/12, 8:13 AM
Brian Brown said...: Lindsey Meadows said...

No it doesn't because you haven't bothered to look at the speech and what was said

Actually, I have dum-dum.

I'm not the one pretending the President didn't say "business" followed by "that"

You are.

Of course ignorance & lies get your through the day.; 8/29/12, 8:13 AM
Aridog said...: Obama cannot help himself, period. One month after the "didn't build that" remark, he speaks in Council Bluffs, Iowa....

If you're lucky enough… You make it to the upper 2% ... If you're lucky enough, and fortunate enough, and been blessed enough to be in the other two percent, the top two percent, you still get a tax cut for your first $250,000 of income, ... All we’re saying is after that, maybe you can do a little bit more to help pay down this deficit and invest in things like education that help our economy grow.

If you succeed is it due to luck, or random good fortune? By the way, just who does Obama think paid for the infrastructure he assigns success to? Does he think the 49% or so of Americans who pay no income tax paid for it? Or, maybe, infrastructure, enjoyed by all, was paid for by those lucky successful folks?

The man is a pathetic captive of his own abbreviated dogma.; 8/29/12, 8:16 AM
Carnifex said...: @Lyndsey

They have. Repeatedly. That you reject their points is you, not them. If both side can't agree to some middle ground, then just drop the subject or you become strident seeming.(them too, but since there are more of them it's harder to notice)

@ Col. Angus

They have moved the goal posts. Why do yo suppose Zero wants to "bail out" all the businesses now? It worked for GM so well!

Anyway, back to my original point, no one is going to change anyones mind here no matter how cogent the argument. We are the 10-15% who care. We've already decided how we personally see as needing to be done. This debating is just shits and giggles, until someone sez "You have a good point there". And occasionally, that does happen.; 8/29/12, 8:17 AM
Matt Sablan said...: I honestly didn't think the We built it message would be as powerful as it ended up being.; 8/29/12, 8:22 AM
Carnifex said...: HAHHAHHAHHA!! Just saw on Drudge the quote from the mayor of LA that the republicans can't just trot out a brown face. In the process, he trots out his own brown face!

What a schmuck!; 8/29/12, 8:22 AM
Matt Sablan said...: I like that MSNBC (Or was it NBC?) somehow, accidentally, forgot to cover any minority speakers at the RNC. Poor them, just when people were thinking it might be a real news station.; 8/29/12, 8:23 AM
Matt Sablan said...: On this whole "context" bit. Remember: Context is a thing that only Democrats speak in. Whatever a Republican says must be taken in the worst possible way, context be damned. Democrats' words must be considered in the best possible way, assuming context to exist that even doesn't.

Frankly, were I a Democrat, I'd feel insulted that my own side thought I was too stupid to choose my words correctly.; 8/29/12, 8:25 AM
traditionalguy said...: I was computerless at a friend's house group viewing last night, but want to add an observationn about Ann Romney's performance.

It was flawless and 100 % authentic. I was trying to be analytic and restrained by the company around me, but could not conceal tears coming down my cheek by the midle of the speech. No emotions, just unexpected tears. I could only explain that attests to the spiritual purity of her delivery of a true message. Amazing connection!

She made every viewer see Mitt Romney through her eyes, and at the end the group consensus was that all would happily vote for Ann Romney.; 8/29/12, 8:27 AM
Colonel Angus said...: You are damn right you need to thank other people for helping you succeed. What are you saying Colonel Sanders? That you never had an inspiring teacher who gave you direction? That you never benefited by public works? Go get a glass of water and flush the toilet.

You really don't get it. You know who I give a lot if credit for my success? My bank that also too a risk by loaning me the money for a small start up that I spent the last 15 years toiling away to build up into a successful business, which by the way, pays more than its fair share of taxes to pay for your glass of water and flush toilet. Everyone benefits from those things Lindsey even businesses that fail.

And actually no, I never had an inspiring teacher. I was rather uninterested in school so if there was an inspirational teacher, it didn't click with me. My inspiration was to be my own boss and acquire financial independence and security.; 8/29/12, 8:28 AM
Colonel Angus said...: If you succeed is it due to luck, or random good fortune?

I fully understand Obama's belief in luck for success. He's never had to actually accomplish anything of note yet he's a 1%er himself and President of the USA.

By the way, just who does Obama think paid for the infrastructure he assigns success to? Does he think the 49% or so of Americans who pay no income tax paid for it?

Honestly, I don't think the Democrat Party will be satisfied until the top 10% of wage earners are paying 100% of income taxes. Even then it still won't be enough.; 8/29/12, 8:35 AM
wyo sis said...: It's important to understand Obama's insistence on believing that one person's success comes at the cost of another person's failure. That's his context and he cannot escape it. It's in everything he says and does. That's a particularly difficult context for him because his success really has depended on luck and circumstance. He must be really tortured by guilt.; 8/29/12, 8:42 AM
furious_a said...: Lindsey: Go get a glass of water and flush the toilet.

Wow, you really put the "bitter" in "bitter-ender".

Keep talking, you and Choom and Fauxcahontas -- the Romney/Ryan commercials just write themselves.; 8/29/12, 8:46 AM
Michelle Dulak Thomson said...: Lindsey Meadows,

And the next time you want a bridge built, build it yourself, or elect a local government that hires better contractors.

There's an instructive, and entertaining, little anecdote on that very subject from Mark Steyn, here.; 8/29/12, 8:46 AM
test said...: Lindsey Meadows said...
That is what is so pathetic about the GOP. They have to gin up slogans out of whole cloth just to have someone to say. If they lie to this extent before the election what do you think they will do to you and us and the country after?

How can you respect a liar and a party that just "makes it up"?

It's pretty amusing to watch the trolls rant on about the right pointing out what Obama says. Here the troll asserts that we draw a different conclusion from his words than she would prefer, and therefore it is a "lie". As a side note, we can add "lie" to "logic" as words whose meaning she doesn't understand.

Obama did say "you didn't build that", and he did so specifically drawing the conclusion that therefore they need to pay for whatever social programs the government deems appropriate. But what social programs built those roads? Do these successful businesspeople not already pay taxes for the building of roads and bridges? Of course they do, which is why anyone with even a casual understanding of his remarks is put off by them.

Obama's argument is a standard leftist debate tactic to first generalize and then assert specifics from the generalization that do not apply to the original facts. Remove the generalization and it's clear that Obama's original point was a complete non-sequitur. If you follow his reasoning everyone owes everything to government simply because it has provided something of value at any point. Obviously this is in fact what the far left beliieves. But the fact that most Americans don't doesn't make it a lie. It is in fact a legitimate philosphical difference the far left is rabidly trying to hide because they know it reveals how radically different their worldview is from most Americans.; 8/29/12, 8:51 AM
Matt Sablan said...: So, what Michelle is saying, is that the town did build that.; 8/29/12, 8:52 AM
Matt Sablan said...: I'm a fairly fiscally conservative person. But, want me to tell you the darkest, most honest truth? I'd pay an 80 percent tax rate if we got our money's worth. If the government stomped out crime, poverty and hunger; if we had a robust, efficient national defense plan; if we had honest, non-corrupt systems and a justice system that was unerring, I'd even pay up to 90 percent.

If you want the people to be willing to pass more money to government, do what every business man has been doing since Ogg realized that he could trade his extra meat for a club: Prove that the value the government offers is superior to the value other sources offer. Do that, and I'd happily admit how wrong I was and pay extra.; 8/29/12, 8:54 AM
Known Unknown said...: And the next time you want a bridge built, build it yourself, or elect a local government that hires better contractors.

Um, the business pays taxes (both personal income tax and corporate taxes) for the express purposes of having bridges and roads built.

Are you being dense on purpose?; 8/29/12, 8:58 AM
Michelle Dulak Thomson said...: Matthew Sablan,

So, what Michelle is saying, is that the town did build that.

Exactly. And quickly, and to code, and at about 1/20 the newly-re-estimated estimated price of the first bridge, the state project that had been scheduled six years prior and hadn't seen the start of construction yet. (The state's estimate for the cost of the bridge the town built itself for $30K was north of $400K; the state's estimate for the first bridge doubled in the six years nothing was done on it.); 8/29/12, 9:00 AM
garage mahal said...: 2 as often as you dump on limbaugh for fatness, your having the same height and weight is truly ironic

I can assure you I do not share the same height or weight with Limbaugh.; 8/29/12, 9:01 AM
Michael Haz said...: I like that MSNBC (Or was it NBC?) somehow, accidentally, forgot to cover any minority speakers at the RNC. Poor them, just when people were thinking it might be a real news station.

I was flipping between CSPAN and MSNBC to watch how MSNBC presented the evening's programs.

MSNBC cut away from (or simply did not show) every non-white speaker. It was blatant. It was done to play into the Obama campaign's meme that Repiublicans are racist.

By so doing, MSNBC's on-air "talent" revealed itself to be racist and very far removed from any pretense of objectivity.; 8/29/12, 9:02 AM
Howard said...: I'm busy cauterizing my hemorrhoids with a blowtorch rather than watching the convention.

I'm sure no one would argue that anyone born in the US has a huge leg up on the rest of the world. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Be humble with your success and all that. Also, we must admire success, although spawned in a fertile environment, it is the power of the driven individual that makes greatness happen. But Obama didn't frame it that way and placed himself in the commie-pinko government union ass-kissing frame. He made himself look like Elizabeth Warren in drag.

Let it go Lindsey. Obama fucked up with his you didn't build it line. The context or nuanced truth of the intent doesn't matter. He stepped on his crank.

The baggers get wood when you keep picking that scab.; 8/29/12, 9:02 AM
Matt Sablan said...: "The baggers get wood when you keep picking that scab."

-- What do grocery store employees have to do with this?; 8/29/12, 9:05 AM
Unknown said...: Go get a glass of water and flush the toilet.

Hey drunk lady, what are you talking about? I can't get the water dept to move a turd except on a fee for service basis.; 8/29/12, 9:07 AM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: I know business owners who had to pay for their own businesses, the buildings, the parking lots, and the roads going into the business.
They had to pay the county boatloads of money to get the proper permits.

Meanwhile, billionaire Obama supporters like Pat Stryker don't risk their own money to create their solar "startup" businesses. Instead phony democrat businesses begin and end with government backed loans worth millions and paid for with tax dollars. No worries when it all falls apart in bankruptcy and lost jobs.

That's Obama's America.; 8/29/12, 9:08 AM
dreams said...: If I had to use just one word for each party to describe the difference between Republican politicians and the Dems politicians, for the Republicans that one word would be competence. Why would that be the case? I think it is because the Republican leaders for the most part come to politics later in their lives after they have been successful in the private sector where they have had to get the job done proving their competence. While the Dem leaders will gladly boost that they have always wanted to change the world so they chose to go into government at a young age and therein lies the problem because in government you don't have to be competent to advance, you just have to put in your time. If you learn out to play the game of politics, you can advance. And when you do something everyday, as in playing politics or anything else, you get good at it. So for the Dems that one word is politicans.

The Republican party is called the stupid party because they aren't as good at politics as the Dems are because unlike the Dems they didn't become career politicans. Also, unlike the Dems they chose the private sector for their careers proving their competence as they advanced in their careers. Only later in their lives do the Republican leaders decide to enter politics because they feel that having proven themselves to be successful leaders in the private sector they can help their community, state or country.

The Dems -- politicans. The Republicans -- competence and we saw plenty of of that last night manifested by the speeches of the many rising Republican leaders of the future.; 8/29/12, 9:10 AM
Brian Brown said...: So:

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

Is supposed to be some great wisdom.

Note: business owners pay more taxes & fees than the population at large.

I'd also like to note that Steve Jobs didn't have any "great teachers" and in fact was very, very bored with school.

But hey, he was a big dummy and a smart guy like Obama would have set him straight.; 8/29/12, 9:16 AM
bagoh20 said...: Yea, if I want something built, the first thing I do is go to the phone book and look up government offices.

Now if I want something for free that I didn't build, then yes, that's the ticket.; 8/29/12, 9:25 AM
bagoh20 said...: It reminds me of the Plantation owner telling his slaves that if it wasn't for him they'd all have nothing and starve to death on their own.

Thank you Massa. Thank you.

Toby; 8/29/12, 9:28 AM
bagoh20 said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 8/29/12, 9:41 AM
shiloh said...: Nichevo is even more upset w/me than when Meade deletes one of his post. :o

And his inane, childish hyperbole is duly noted.

I've literally never heard that before! Indeed!

ok, I think he may be more over the top when Meade deletes his posts. Close call.

Again, since I'm wasting everyone's time, Nichevo surely won't notice this, unless ...

At the very least, hopefully Nichevo feels better now. :-P

Lather, rinse, repeat.; 8/29/12, 10:19 AM
chickelit said...: Hey Victoria! It's always good to see you back here.; 8/29/12, 11:34 AM
Rusty said...: garage mahal said...
2 as often as you dump on limbaugh for fatness, your having the same height and weight is truly ironic

I can assure you I do not share the same height or weight with Limbaugh.

No. You're much bigger.; 8/29/12, 11:49 AM
Rusty said...: AprilApple said...
I know business owners who had to pay for their own businesses, the buildings, the parking lots, and the roads going into the business.

Funny thing. That street outside your house in your subdivision? The contractor built that and all the other infrastructure-sewer and water- and then gave to your city.

If it weren't for the private high school my parents sent me to while paying outrageous property taxes to public schools I wouldn't have graduated. I thank my private school teachers and my parents for my education.; 8/29/12, 11:54 AM
jungatheart said...: Tank said...
DEAD COUNTRY WALKING.
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Yeah, when I'm honest with myself I see we are heading toward Neoliberalist homogeneity, and the choice between Obama and Romney is really just a matter of bread and circuses. The hope and change shoe is on the other foot now.; 8/29/12, 12:29 PM
Revenant said...: The context was that successful people had people who helped them succeed

As others have pointed out, that's a silly observation. Everyone is "helped" by those same people. The failures of America received the same "help" from public schools, roads, and bridges that the successful did.

If you want to know what causes success, you *eliminate* the factors it has in common with failure. :); 8/29/12, 1:13 PM
Kirk Parker said...: Rev,

"If you want to know what causes success, you *eliminate* the factors it has in common with failure."

No, sorry: that's way too much like math.; 8/29/12, 1:40 PM
Nichevo said...: What? Meade, did you delete something? Or has Shiloh been sniffing glue again?; 8/29/12, 2:35 PM
Known Unknown said...: Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.

You would think that a smarty like Obama would look up who created this unbelievable American system.; 8/29/12, 2:55 PM
rcommal said...: As others have pointed out, that's a silly observation. Everyone is "helped" by those same people. The failures of America received the same "help" from public schools, roads, and bridges that the successful did.

If you want to know what causes success, you *eliminate* the factors it has in common with failure. :)

Exactly.

Thank you.; 8/29/12, 9:00 PM
Anonymous said...: and I thought it was a Gilligan's Island rerun...; 8/29/12, 9:52 PM
Anonymous said...: Paul Risenhoover said...
"Hey drunk lady, what are you talking about? I can't get the water dept to move a turd except on a fee for service basis."

Then I suggest you stop crapping in the sink.

You are so damn independent, move it yourself. On one hand you want services and on the other you hate the government for providing them.; 8/29/12, 9:59 PM