August 3, 2012

"I'm very looking forward to a Republican being back in office... When you're rich, you want a Republican in office."

The Politico headline says "Jenna Jameson supporting Mitt Romney," but I think you might want to credit her with cleverness. That might be a cute way of saying she's for Obama. Be alert for humor from sly porn stars.

IN THE COMMENTS: I have a lot to say to the people who question whether Jameson is smart.

AND: Watch her stand up to Bill O'Reilly:

77 comments:

Comanche Voter said...

Ah Jemma there's so much space in that head (and in that body) for strange and vagrant thoughts. And so many have been there and done that.

But what the heck, even porn stars have opinions--they're like noses--everybody has one. And it's not like she's a Democrat--they're the screwers, and she's most definitely the screwee.

jacksonjay said...

Voter suppression!

Fen said...

Jenna, shut up and swallow.

ricpic said...

The richest nations have always been the nations that the desperate poor stream into. So it turns out the interests of the rich and poor are congruent not opposed. It doesn't matter that Cookie or Roeschie or some other commie apologist schmuck will jump up and down and scream how wrong that is. The proof is in the MILLIONS who have voted with their feet to go join their "oppressors."

AJ Lynch said...

WTF news void did Politico assume it was filling when it took the far left librul route?

I bet Politico, a run of the mill MSM librul news site, will be laying off staff soon after the election. Unless some big bucks librul non-profit foundation comes riding to its rescue.

edutcher said...

Sly porn star?

Isn't that another oxymoron?

Calypso Facto said...

"news void"

I see what you did there, AJ.

bagoh20 said...

Well, she is right. And if you think having the rich unhappy about their government and fearful of it is just fine, then you should think about how that will affect your income, job prospects, or business success.

You may want to tax the rich more, but that money is all coming out of you somehow, sometime. People don't "pay taxes" they redirect their money to the government, if you think that means it will come to you, then vote for Obama, and keep hope alive.

cubanbob said...

I just hope the Romney Administration passes Glenn Reynolds's Hollywood Tax. And unbundles cable. What great entertainment that would be!. As for Jemma, it appears it appears that a lot of the silicon leak out of her boobs and went in to her head.

Wally Kalbacken said...

I thought she was retired porn star Jenna Jameson.

Strelnikov said...

Did her voice sound muffled when she said that?

Lauderdale Vet said...

From what I understand, she’s a smart cookie, and an excellent business woman.

Beldar said...

I'm sufficiently acquainted with Ms. Jameson's work to doubt that she was being coy. By no means am I suggesting that she's an airhead. However, I'd take her statement exactly at face value.

Dan Davis said...

She doesn't come across to me as one to stand up for the little guy.

TomHynes said...

Ann is right again. Here is Jenna in 2007:
Jenna Jameson: "Absolutely. The Clinton administration was the best years for the adult industry and I wish that Clinton would run again. I would love to have him back in office. I would love to have Al Gore in office. When Republicans are in office, the problem is, a lot of times they try to put their crosshairs on the adult industry, to make a point. It's sad, when there are so many different things that are going on in the world: war, and people are dying of genocide...I look forward to another Democrat being in office. It just makes the climate so much better for us, and I know that once all our troops come home, things are going to be better and I think that getting Bush out of office is the most important thing right now."

Oso Negro said...

It would be good to see her put her money where her mouth is, but of course, where her mouth was is where she got her money.

Oso Negro said...

Dan, she may not be one to stand up for the little guy, but you can be sure she has made a lot of little guys stand up.

William said...

A porn star can admit her penchant for indulging in bukkake with farm animals, and everyone in the industry will admire her honesty and willingness to push the envelope. But this will probably cost her bookings and income.....In point of fact, the political opinions of pornstars should be given neither more nor less weight than those of movie and rock stars.....I bet if you did a survey you would find that the overwhelming majory of pornstars are Democrats.

Roman said...

She could organize some of her co-workers: "BJ Artists for Barry".

Jason said...

The "gag reflex" story earlier today... now the Jenna Jameson post.

What the hell is going on over there at Meadehouse??!!!

Jason said...

Bree Olson of Charlie Sheen fame, is another Republican porn performer. And Mimi Miyagi ran for office as a Republican in Nevada, I believe.

AndyN said...

TomHynes said...

Ann is right again. Here is Jenna in 2007:
Jenna Jameson: "Absolutely. The Clinton administration was the best years for the adult industry and I wish that Clinton would run again. I would love to have him back in office. I would love to have Al Gore in office. When Republicans are in office, the problem is, a lot of times they try to put their crosshairs on the adult industry, to make a point...

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Wally Kalbacken said...

I thought she was retired porn star Jenna Jameson.


She's made hers, now she wants to keep it. If she got taxed into poverty she'd probably go right back to supporting democrats so she'd have a government less likely to interfere with the only way she apparently knows how to make money.

n.n said...

She clearly has not been paying attention. It has been Democrats, in the majority, who have been caught in "well-intentioned" crimes of monetary gain. Placing the forest before the trees establishes a predisposition for defrauding individuals without perceived consequences. While others are vulnerable to corruption in the exception.

In any case, there remains a problem of distinguishing between cause and effect, and coercion, which will not be resolved until authoritarian interests and surrogates are held accountable for their role.

n.n said...

AndyN:

Ironically, her career choice exemplifies the "instant gratification without perceived consequences" mentality which is a sponsor of progressive corruption. Pornography presents an outlet for individuals who are capable of only moderate self-control. Perhaps it is a practical remedy, but that does not change the purpose it serves. It is in the same class as promiscuous behavior (i.e. increases risk), psychotropic drugs (i.e. reality distorting), alcohol consumption to excess, etc.

Calypso Facto said...

"It's sad, when there are so many different things that are going on in the world: war, and people are dying of genocide...I look forward to another Democrat being in office. It just makes the climate so much better for us, and I know that once all our troops come home, things are going to be better

Another Obama voter disappointed all around. Where's the Jenna Jameson is like Ann Althouse tag?!?

Ann Althouse said...

Those who assume Jameson isn't intelligent should read the "business" section of her Wikipedia biography.

Matthew Sablan said...

Journalists will believe in speaking truth to power again; whistle blowers will be protected; inspector generals will not be fired for finding things unpleasant for the president...

Matthew Sablan said...

That is a list of "more things that will happen" when we have a Republican president.

Ann Althouse said...

From a 2004 NYT story about Jameson: "Ms. Jameson... is a prominent figure in the country's $10 billion-a-year porn business.... She has debated the merits of pornography at the Oxford Union.... [S]he has become a millionaire several times over. She is the chief executive officer of ClubJenna Inc., which Entertainment Weekly said has revenues of $5 million to $15 million a year.... Ms. Jameson produces her own videos.. She sells the videos on her Web site, which also offers an online diary, a sex advice column and a Jenneral Store of sexual aids, T-shirts, mugs and Jenna bobble-head dolls."

Also, I liked this quote from her father: "You have two choices when one of your offspring takes a nonsocially acceptable job... You can either completely divorce yourself from them, or support them. I chose the latter.... Everybody has sex... The only difference is that Jenna lets you watch and makes a lot of money.''

Ann Althouse said...

Here's an article called "The 10 Smartest Porn Stars of All Time":

"Jenna Jameson is widely considered the most successful woman in porn. While her academic career isn’t much to marvel at we have to give credit to the woman who almost single handedly brought porn into the mainstream. She owns multiple businesses and built up, then sold to Playboy, an enormously profitable production company in ClubJenna (that has over $30 million in revenue, with at least half of that being profit). The biggest reason for Jenna Jameson making this list, though, is her debating skills. In 2001, the Oxford Union debating society invited Jameson to come to Oxford to debate a proposed British law against pornography. Shockingly, she led her side to victory, winning the debate 204 to 27. She’s also taken Bill O’Reilly to task for some of his hypocritical ways. Later, in February 2003, Pony International planned to feature her as one of several porn stars in advertisements for athletic shoes. This plan was attacked by O’Reilly, then Jameson sent a sarcastic email to the show, writing: 'I hope Bill understands the difference between a porn star and a hooker. I assume he has done some research on the subject because he requested some of my videos after we finished taping my appearance. I imagine he wanted them for professional reasons.' Jenna Jameson for the win."

Sloanasaurus said...

"Those who assume Jameson isn't intelligent should read the "business" section of her Wikipedia biography."
_______________________

I think it's still safe to assume she is not that smart. After all she did not build her own business. She had all kinds of help from the government - the government invented the internet, provided roads, free health care etc... You know the argument.

Kovacs said...

Truly brilliant first comment at the bottom of the Politico link.

bagoh20 said...

If she's not that smart, then what exactly is the advantage of this being smart thing? Oh right, smugness. Yea, that's not all that great, but then again being smug is obviously no proof of intellect.

I mean that's what I'd think if I was smart enough.

Robert Cook said...

It's a bit much for O'Reilly to question whether what she does is shameful or may be corrupting of others, given his own career as a writer of (soft?) porn potboilers.

bagoh20 said...

I don't know how you deal with having clear intimate detailed video of you having unlimited varieties of sex with endless partners easily and publicly available to everyone who knows you, including your kids, friends, friends' kids, coworkers, grandchildren, etc.

Once it gets to the great-grandchildren then maybe it kinda fades in ickyness, but knowing that everyone you talk to has probably seen you naked doing very intimate things with strangers is freaking weird.

I can't imagine how that must be for a porn actresse's kids.

Regardless of what she claims about being OK with her career choices, you get a clear sense that she really isn't, and does in fact find it embarrassing, but once you have done it you have to defend your psyche. You don't really have much choice.

I think it likely that no porn star would choose porn again as a means to getting what they got if they could do it almost any other way short of hurting people.

prairie wind said...

Her arguments are odd. There is nothing wrong with porn...this is a hard business...I've seen it all...nothing wrong with this business for a single woman.

Then: I will quit the biz before I have children. I need to turn over a new leaf.

New leaf? But WHY?

Have all the men she's been with in her movies have been single men?

Before you get all wound up about me being anti-porn: I am anti-porn for very personal reasons but I am even more anti-anti-porn laws.

t-man said...

If the republicans wanted to strike a blow against the porn industry without seeming prudish, they would simply introduce a bill that pornography is not entitled to copyright protection.

What, exactly is the difference between pornography and prostitution?

"I'll give you $500 to have sex with me."

v.

"I'll give you $500 to have me, and I'll film it."

leslyn said...

Jenna Jameson: The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Patrick said...

I really dislike what I have seen from Mr. O'Reilly, I think he is a faux populist, misinformed blowhard, but I don't think this video makes him look all that bad. He asks a lot of questions, none of which are really original, but few of which are ever asked to any pornstars. He allows her to answer, which she does, with some insight. He certainly isn't pushing her around, or asking her anything new or unexpected.

Patrick said...

For every Jenna Jameson, I wonder how many suicides, drug overdoses, AIDS cases, STDs and depression. While I certainly wouldn't hold Ms. Jameson responsible for those, we ought not to pretend those are by far the more likely outcomes for a career in porn.

chickelit said...

When you're rich, you want a Republican in office

I'm not rich and I want a Republican in office.

Jameson has (or had) terrible fake boobs. Some men don't notice.

I'm getting annoyed with Althouse's growing use of "objective" indicia for intelligence. Yesterday it was IQ scores; today it's the Oxford Union; tomorrow it will be spelling.

That's enough contrary for one post.

Skyler said...

There are certainly a lot of people who suffer while in the porn business. But that's the fault of those people who probably were going to end up losers in life regardless. This is probably why those people got into the business. There is a lot of room for desperate people because it is not considered so reputable.

I know a man who started his own fencing business after working and building fences for other people. He has a big company now just building fences. But I know a lot of people who build fences simply because they are desperate for any job at all. It's hard work and you can get hurt and the pay for the individual worker is not very high. How is the porn business different (besides that some people don't like porn)?

Charlie Martin said...

I'm getting annoyed with Althouse's growing use of "objective" indicia for intelligence. Yesterday it was IQ scores; today it's the Oxford Union; tomorrow it will be spelling.

No doubt you'd prefer "agrees with me."

Michael K said...

Jenna was arrested for DUI last week and the porn industry is in big trouble from free porn. There is a gal who writes about it with some good insight into what is really going on. Now, California has a bill or proposition pending to require condoms. That's when the free porn takes over.

William said...

If rap music, porn, and marijuana were going to destroy western civ, it would have happened by now. Or perhaps I've just been too distracted by bonging out and looking at internet porn to notice the collapse. But casual observation leads one to believe that unrestricted credit default swaps and mortgage bundling are the truly pernicious habits of our time.

chickelit said...

Charlie Martin retorted: No doubt you'd prefer 'agrees with me.'

Actually, I got annoyed because I read "William Shockley: Broken Genius"

Joe said...

What, exactly is the difference between marriage and prostitution?

I'll buy you a car and you'll have sex with me.

Eric said...

Jenna Jameson is actually a pretty savvy woman. She managed to build decades-long name recognition in an industry full of interchangeable, disposable women who burn out after six months. She started producing even before she got too old to perform.

So yeah, she's smart enough to know how this looks. She's an Obama voter.

Eric said...

What, exactly is the difference between marriage and prostitution?

When you marry her it's not a sure thing anymore.

PWS said...

It seems like the smart debate is missing the point. There are all different kinds of smart.

She is effective at making money and leveraged her resources well. By the usual and common measure of success in our society (i.e., $), she has excelled.

Does it matter if she's smart?

Dave E. said...

Ann gets it. That "endorsement" is as real as a $3 bill.

“When you’re rich, you want a Republican in office.”

Come on, that's pure catnip for Democrats.

ndspinelli said...

Her interview stands on its own as proof this woman is intelligent and eloquent. I'm shocked Althouse is an ally of hers.

Amartel said...

Rich Porn Mogul Supports Rich People and Porn, Speaks in Complete Sentences.

machine said...

"Romney finally gets a supporter who changes positions as often as he does."

chickelit said...

Romney finally gets a supporter who changes positions as often as he does.

"Says missionary her favorite position--dislikes anal"

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Brent said...

So, a professional cunt is smart because . . .

No matter how you slice it Ann, this rose is still a professional cunt.

Name one thing that makes her better for America

Dante said...

I hope Bill understands the difference between a porn star and a hooker. I assume he has done some research on the subject because he requested some of my videos after we finished taping my appearance. I imagine he wanted them for professional reasons

What's the difference? If I pay for a woman to have sex with me, record it, for the purposes of selling the video to get money, is that OK? What happens if the experience isn't worth producing it? Is that not OK?

Let's say instead of making videos, I'm merely going to blog about it for Ad revenue. Is that OK? What happens if I simply don't blog about it because the experience wasn't that great.

In these cases, can I take a tax write-off because the business is failing? Maybe that's the difference. One is tax deductible.

Dante said...

I'm getting annoyed with Althouse's growing use of "objective" indicia for intelligence. Yesterday it was IQ scores; today it's the Oxford Union; tomorrow it will be spelling.

Actually, that was a claimed IQ score. She lied about Mensa, and thought botox would cure athletes' foot. Maybe not so smart after all.

Totally agree about the spelling and grammar mistakes. I think those who complain about it use it as a crutch. It's like turning in a perfect paper following the rules. Yes, you have a good memory, but that doesn't make one creative or smart. Just that you care to conform, and can memorize rules.

Saint Croix said...

What, exactly is the difference between marriage and prostitution?

Babies in marriage.

Dead babies in prostitution.

R. Chatt said...

I also don't believe she is being coy. She IS rich.

What's the point here? That she would inspire white working class male Democrats to react in disgust and vote for Obama? (because they are misogynists -- they watch porn but she's a slut)

Is Axelrod that good? Maybe. What a disgusting and cynical campaign.

Dante said...

I don't know how you deal with having clear intimate detailed video of you having unlimited varieties of sex with endless partners easily and publicly available to everyone who knows you, including your kids, friends, friends' kids, coworkers, grandchildren, etc.

I think her discomfort came from the idea of her children seeing her pornography. There are exhibitionists out there.

Perhaps her success changed her own view of herself for the better, to the point at which she could consider having children.

AllenS said...

Michael K said...
Jenna was arrested for DUI last week

Yeah, she ran into a utility pole or something. I saw the article on my homepage one morning. I read the article and found out that she has twins from a relationship with Tito Ortiz, a mixed martial artist. Can't remember if this is a steady thing or what.

AllenS said...

Here's an article and picture of the twins from the Puffington Host. One child for each breast. How convenient.

Penny said...

Al Dante

"Yes, you have a good memory, but that doesn't make one creative or smart. Just that you care to conform, and can memorize rules."

Which reminds me...

Have we all learned our basic English and math?

EXCELLENT beginning for everyone!

A well stated case in front of the parole board always works wonders, but better yet? When you learn math, you're going to know in advance that the odds are still stacked against you.

Penny said...

You don't need to memorize the rules, but you sure as hell better know what they are before you creatively break them.

AllenS said...

And then there's this:

TMZ has learned Tito Ortiz was just arrested for felony domestic violence at the home he shares with Jenna Jameson.

We're told when cops arrived at the couple's home in Huntington Beach, CA -- Jenna Jameson had "visible injuries."

We're told someone called 911 today at 9:53 AM and reported a "disturbance."

Tito is currently in custody and on his way to a Huntington Beach jail in Orange County, CA.

Tito and Jenna are not married -- but they have twin boys together.


She sure is smart, that Jenna, and boy did she ever tell off that mean O'Reilly man.

Penny said...

That said.

We have way too many rules!

Used to think that politicians should set their minds to getting rid of useless and worthless rules.

Now?

Thinking that inmates are inherently more qualified to investigate and "do the leg work".

Frees up the pols to do what they do best...Stump. Sneer. Snicker.

Suckers... like us.

Dante said...

I wonder

If I could make a business for creating male porn stars. Here is how it would work. You sign up for the school, and can either pay a monthly tuition, or sign up for private lessons.

At the end of each lesson, the teacher can give a brief verbal description of how one is performing, and give instruction for improving for the porn industry.

Is that legal? I mean, how do these porn stars become so good at what they do. They must have had instruction. This would merely level the playing field.

Saint Croix said...

Here's Jameson's mug shot from her drunk driving arrest. Looks good! Enigmatic. Sadder but wiser. Also, sexy.

She's had a rough life. Two rapes, a lot of drugs, two divorces, cancer.

Here she is with her boyfriend and their two kids. They seem really happy.

Bryan C said...

Jameson's view on Democrats being friendlier to the porn industry are likely to have changed since 2007. California's recent condom requirements and arbitrary seizures by Federal law enforcement should be enough to demonstrate that Democrat nannyism, ideological rigidity, and general business-hostile policies apply to her industry, too.

The Crack Emcee said...

I'm spending a lot of time in the hospital with a sick friend. He'll never be famous, a millionaire, speak at the Oxford Union, or get to best Ted Baxter in a debate (a true marker of intelligence if there ever was one) so Ann will never acknowledge he's smart. Especially not smarter than most. As I've been saying about her media-framed political coverage, she's a rube, allowing it to mold her mind and - since her many, many thoughts always stay within the confines of it's parameters - deceive her into thinking she, and they, are being radical for pushing the likes of cultists and porn stars on us as the nation's "winners."

I'm glad to see few are falling for it.

As prairie wind said of Jameson, "her arguments are odd," but also revealing. She knows there are no redeeming qualities in her "work" - but Ann misses that. She contradicts herself constantly - but Ann misses that. She says Romney has changed positions as often as she has - but Ann misses the meaning behind that, too, as she (repeatedly) roots for liars to lead.

No, what's important - whether discussing Obama, Jameson, or Romney - is if they can convince others to masturbate at a public image for a fee.

That's not a sign of anyone's intelligence, but a symbol of how dumb we've become as a nation.

And, if you ask me, being King or Queen of the Morons is nothing to brag about or admire,...

ndspinelli said...

Crack, I don't know if you abide, but my prayer for your friend.

PWS said...

Looks like the Crack Emcee out Althoused Althouse.

Ann is always trying to pump up the contrarian meme or show why her frame is different/unique when in fact she's more or less feeding red meat to her readership.

CE took it to a whole new level by re-framing the AA's whole schtick.

jr565 said...

Dan Davis wrote:
She doesn't come across to me as one to stand up for the little guy.

But she might lie down for one. Has she ever done any midget porn?

jr565 said...

I guess she figures, if she's going to be a slut, might as well get paid exhorbitantly while taking it up the butt (and she might like that anyway).
NOt saying what she's doing is admirable, but she has succeeded in a world that a lot of people don't. Then again, how hard is it for women, if they decide to sell their bodies, and are moderately attractive to earn bank.

Nichevo said...

1) I think there are no JJ anal scenes on film.

2) She is horrible IMHO esp. with plastic surgery. Can't understand the attraction. A thousand like her, or better. She was wise to get into production...others are following her lead while still young and pretty (Avy Scott).

3) I don't care what real movie stars think, why would I want this one's opinion?