August 29, 2012

Live-blogging Day 2 of the GOP Convention.

6:03: Ayla Brown — the erstwhile "American Idol" contestant and daughter of Senator Scott Brown — sings the National Anthem.

6:07: "Please release each one of us from ego"... part of the invocation, given by a Sikh.

6:08: The color guard are amputee veterans, which we see because they're wearing shorts, earning a new, immediate exception to my "men in shorts" rule.

6:10: A bombastic tribute to Ron Paul. "No, no, I'm not going to be elected," he said to his wife. "To be elected, you've got to be like Santa Claus." Rand Paul says one thing he likes about his father is the lobbyists don't even bother to come by his office.

6:29: I found it hard to watch Mitch McConnell. I almost got out my sketchbook and pen, though, because his face says "Caricature me!" So I moved from C-SPAN over to CNN. (I'm recording both, and also Fox News.) They had an interview with Paul Ryan, in which Gloria Borger prodded him about how he felt when, as a 16-year-old boy, he discovered his father dead. Ryan moved on to how you have to live knowing you could die at any time, so Gloria asked why he didn't live fast and run right away for President. He said there were others who could do that job, but he was the only one would could father his young children. Gloria did not proceed to ask why then is he taking on the VP slot, but I guess that's a very short campaign period and, frankly, once you get it, it's a lot less work than chairing the House Finance Committee. Then Piers Morgan was interviewing Michele Bachmann, and the 2 of them agreed that Ann Romney was just lovely and then enthused about the "miracle" of the 2 of them agreeing, which Wolf Blitzer then echoed, sending me back to C-SPAN which was showing the on-stage entertainer, a horrifying aging rock singer who was belting the line "I'm back in the game" over and over.

6:30: Rand Paul: "You know when the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare, the first words out of my mouth were 'I still think it's unconstitutional.'" Pushed to reflect, he reflected, and he still thinks it's unconstitutional. "The whole damned thing is unconstitutional." Meade says, "He said 'damned.'" And then, more seriously: "What we have here is crazy old Ron Paul" — and Meade makes a Ron Paul face — "morphing into Rand Paul."

6:50: Video of the Bushes, 41 and 43, and their wives, Barbara and Laura. So they weren't entirely banished from this place. They are circumspect, yet charming, claiming their place in history without seeming the slightest bit arrogant. Old Bush even does his Dana Carvey imitation imitation: "Not gon' do it. Wouldn't be prudent."

7:00: John McCain. Why is he here and not George Bush? McCain lost. Bush won twice. Meade says: "Because Bush is through with politics." McCain gives a paean to foreign wars in the cause of freedom, and the crowd's response is tepid.

7:50: Danny Gokey — another "American Idol" person. Another Wisconsin person.

8:00: Rob Portman, the short-list guy who came up short. "We need Romney/Ryan and we need them now." He seems perfectly fine, but I am glad he was not Romney's choice. There's some insurmountable dullness about him, no matter what he says, no matter how enthusiastically.

8:31: Another VP also-ran, Tim Pawlenty. He's reading jokes. For example: Obama is "the tattoo President" — it seemed cool at the time, but you look at it and say "What was I thinking?"

9:15: Huckabee and Rice both gave very long speeches that were neither bad nor good. Here's some text from Rice's speech.

9:19: Biggest cheer of the night comes when Gov. Susana Martinez says: "I carried at 357 Smith & Wesson Magnum" (referring to her experience, as an 18-year-old, working for her parents security guard business, protecting the Catholic church at bingo times). She's a good speaker. A nice edge of passion in her voice. With toughness.

9:29: Both Meade and I thought: We may be looking at the first woman President of the United States.

9:30: Paul Ryan. Meade says: "He looks like a young JFK only healthy." I'm struck by this quote, directly attacking Obama: "I have never seen opponents so silent about their record and so desperate to keep their power. They've run out of ideas. Their moment came and went. Fear and division is all they've got left."

9:40: As Paul Ryan expresses his love for the state of Wisconsin, the C-SPAN camera closes in on Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, and we see there's a tear rolling down his cheek.



That was pointed out by Meade, who confesses to a tear of his own.

9:55: Paul Ryan gives a moving tribute to his mother, who, as a new widow, commuted 40 miles a day to Madison — to my school, the University of Wisconsin — to learn the skills she used to build a new business and a new life in which her happiness was not just in the past and to become his role model. After a long ovation from the crowd, Ryan moves into what will be the greatest iteration of what has been the convention's them: You did build that. He says:
Behind every small business, there's a story worth knowing. All the corner shops in our towns and cities, the restaurants, cleaners, gyms, hair salon, hardware stores — these didn't come out of nowhere. A lot of heart goes into each one. And if small business people say they made it on their own, all they are saying is that nobody else worked 7 days a week in their place, nobody showed up in their place to open the door at 5 in the morning, nobody did their thinking and worrying and sweating for them. After all that work and in a bad economy, it sure doesn't help to hear from their President that government gets the credit. What they deserve to hear is the truth: Yes, you did build that!
11:10: Ryan did a brilliant job. It was much more than a fine speech and an excellent delivery. He embodied that speech. We saw a brilliant candidate.

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Pastafarian said...

Kemp would have made a good president. That's a pretty good political mentor.

Shouting Thomas said...

Lindsey,

That pic of you worrying the cigarette to death certainly makes me wonder.

Last woman I knew that did that was a psychopath.

Lithium seemed to help her.

Titus said...

Try putting the cigarette down, honey.

Try putting the cheesecake down morbidly.

shiloh said...

Is Ryan still talkin' ?!?

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Eric said...

Politifact will be hiring after fact checking lie fest.

Did they get another infusion of Soros money?

Phil 314 said...

Ryan's kids = targets

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Something about Obama posters resonated.

Palladian said...

Take your retrovir today, Tits?

Phil 314 said...

Nice college graduate riff.

Pastafarian said...

He's hitting the point of unemployment among recent grads again. Something tells me this young attractive vp might just help with that demographic.

Palladian said...

"A country where everything is free but us."

shiloh said...

"Ryan's kids = targets"

Please, Ryan himself is such an easy target, not to worry lol.

Anonymous said...

I can't help but notice how the libs here, as usual, have nothing to offer but drive-by snark.

If Ryan is lying, show us the money. Cite a link.

Or maybe show us that your brains work and you can offer an original insight or two or even one-half.

A. Shmendrik said...

Tearing up in S. FL as a Wisconsin native who wants to see this ticket put a righteous ass-kicking on Obama-Biden!

garage mahal said...

Must be a good speech, judging from garage's rapid descent into rage

Not rage, stunned disbelief. He thinks his audience are idiots. Everybody knows he was on the Bowles-Simpson committee, and he torpedoed it. And blames Obama for it in this speech. So much to hit Obama over legitimately, and they just lie about everything.

Palladian said...

Ooh, "central planners". Good Hayek reference.

Revenant said...

hmm, since this blog is 90/10 con one wonders which convention will get more posts?

The Democratic one. Obama's flaws are more numerous than Romney's merits. :)

ALH said...

"supervision and sanctimony of the central planners".

Ouch.

I'm Full of Soup said...

I hear a lot of folks at Obama For America have suddenly decided they should update their resumes.

Chuck66 said...

Excellent!!!! He reminds me of myself. I have been working since I was 8 years old (started deliverying some newspapers from my big brothers paper route). I want to work hard, even if I am non-prosperous, rather than take free stuff from the central planners.

Palladian said...

Not rage, stunned disbelief. He thinks his audience are idiots.

Better than Obama, who knows his audience are idiots.

Shouting Thomas said...

shiloh just chimed in with the usual bullshit about what fun liberals are.

shiloh, I live in fucking Woodstock, NY.

You can't shit me.

Pastafarian said...

Zeppelin reference. Awesome.

Revenant said...

"morbidly"?

Chip Ahoy said...

No Abba?

Eric said...

He's hitting the point of unemployment among recent grads again. Something tells me this young attractive vp might just help with that demographic.

We'll see. The Democrats have spent years telling them they're somehow entitled to welching on their loan obligations. It's going to be difficult to swim against such a strong current of self interest.

ricpic said...

Fuck the Central Planners!

--Paul Ryan

shiloh said...

"I can't help but notice"

Try a little bit harder ie again, this blog is 90/10 con and it's very easy to skip over posts.

Although, w/out libs, this blog would not have a pulse!

Palladian said...

"morbidly"?

Yes, Titus Andronicus thinks that fat jokes are stinging satire.

The only thing stinging is the notion that I'd eat cheesecake.

The Crack Emcee said...

Revenant,

Obama's flaws are more numerous than Romney's merits.

Attaboy,...

Phil 314 said...

"By the way, being successful in business...
THAT'S A GOOD THING!"

EXACTLY

ricpic said...

Doesn't matter what garbage says, Ryan CONNECTS with the American People, and garbage knows his tin god is history.

Eric said...

Yes, Titus Andronicus thinks that fat jokes are stinging satire.

Is it just me, or did he used to be more entertaining and less aggressive? Lately all I see is nastiness.

Amartel said...

What language?

Revenant said...

Not rage, stunned disbelief. He thinks his audience are idiots.

Well, Obama *did* win in '08. :)

Everybody knows he was on the Bowles-Simpson committee, and he torpedoed it.

You have an interesting definition of "everyone".

Regardless, there's a long history of former Congressmen blaming Presidents for things the Congressmen agreed with at time time. For example, Obama likes to blame Bush for the spending Obama voted for. :)

Chuck66 said...

Natural rights!!! Geesh, we have a real American. He gets it.

Shouting Thomas said...

Obama's flaws are more numerous than Romney's merits.

Good enough for me.

I'm not looking for salvation. I'd just like to see a competent manager in the White House.

shiloh said...

we ... thank them.

Revenant said...

Is it just me, or did he used to be more entertaining and less aggressive? Lately all I see is nastiness.

He used to be novel. He just needs some new material to work with.

Alex said...

Let me see, I will judge the Ryan speech based on what garage thinks? LOL!!!!

Chuck66 said...

I hear a lot of Scott Walker in him. Such as not blaming his predecors, but instead going forward with fixes.

shiloh said...

We We We ...

((( So it shall be written, so it shall be done )))

Unite!

I'm Full of Soup said...

Meadhouse:

I agree with that prediction. Gov. Martinez crushed it! She is very very impressive.

ALH said...

Home run.

Amartel said...

"shiloh just chimed in with the usual bullshit about what fun liberals are.

shiloh, I live in fucking Woodstock, NY.

You can't shit me."

I;m in San Fran. They turned a great town into a daycare for the damned. Not fun!

Alex said...

YES PAUL YES!!!!!!

Orgasm. Tits.

Palladian said...

Rights come from Nature...

Good to hear a Republican acknowledge the Enlightenment principles of the Founders.

MadisonMan said...

Who knew that one could go to Madison to learn something about business.

If you can make it here you can make it anywhere.

Start spreading the news.

Amartel said...

Great speech by Ryan. Even Slow Joe must realize he's got a problem.

Palladian said...

I'm not looking for salvation. I'd just like to see a competent manager in the White House.

Hey, that's my line! :)

Chuck66 said...

But what about free abortions? That is what is realy important.

Revenant said...

"morbidly"?

Yes, Titus Andronicus thinks that fat jokes are stinging satire.

I was just reflecting that "morbid" means "unhealthy", not "fat".

shiloh said...

ok, be honest cons ~ we're you more or less excited by mama grizzly or Ryan?

Chip Ahoy said...

Those two boys. I almost barfed. That's how my parents dressed us boys. Cufflinks. Ever try to push cufflinks through 4 layers of holes when you're a spaz?

Anonymous said...

Although, w/out libs, this blog would not have a pulse!

shiloh: No, just a higher signal-to-noise ratio.

Show me that you are more than a brain-dead reactionary only capable of sneering. You seem to have nothing to say otherwise.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Countdown to drooling insane leftwing hatred towards Ryan...

Revenant said...

If you can make it here you can make it anywhere.

Except in California; you can't make anything here without a few environmental impact statements and some kickbacks to the zoning board.

ALH said...

Ryan > Palin (because his team has the spine to get the job done...McCain/Palin didn't )

garage mahal said...

Regardless, there's a long history of former Congressmen blaming Presidents for things the Congressmen agreed with at time time.

Ryan didn't agree with Bowles-Simpson. He torpedoed it. It never made it to Obama, because there was no report that was finished to hand to Obama.

CarolMR said...

It's Pam Bondi, not Bondy.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Garage - you are so full of shit.

shiloh said...

c23, let me recap Ryan's speech:

Conservatives are geniuses having all the answers to the problems they themselves created ... and Obama is the scum of the earth!

hmm, pretty much mirrors this blog.

edutcher said...

Excellent speech by Ryan, very forcefully delivered.

totally inexperienced on the national stage.

He certainly bitch slapped Choom.

And how many neophytes can bring an audience to its feet as many times as he did?

The little animal won't admit it, but those people are fired up.

hmm, lotta blue

But a lot smaller numbers than a couple of weeks ago.

By the way, still waiting for that explanation of how the Romster is up 5 in likeability over Little Zero.

The little animal's "pet" just bit his cock off.

dreams said...

If people would just think about the difference in Obama's first decision as his party's nominee and Romney's first decision, it should be so obvious on that decision alone who is the most able and has the best judgement to lead our country. Picking Paul Ryan will probably be the best decision Romney will ever make as President. Paul Ryan .. what a manificent talent!

edutcher said...

Conservatives are geniuses having all the answers to the problems they themselves created ... and Obama is the scum of the earth!

By George, the little moron's got it.

garage mahal said...

Garage - you are so full of shit.

Did Ryan vote against it? Yes

Did Ryan just blame Obama for ignoring it? Yes.

Was there even a report to ignore? No.

That's called lying.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

PAUL RYAN Says:
“With all their attack ads, the President is just throwing away money. And he’s pretty experienced at that!”

Plus: “The recovery that was promised is nowhere in sight.”

Also: “I have never seen opponents so silent about their record and so desperate to keep their power. They’ve run out of ideas. Their moment came and went. Fear and division is all they’ve got left.”

“College graduates should not have to spend their twenties in their childhood bedrooms, looking up at their fading Obama posters and wondering when they will be able to get going in life.”

shiloh said...

"just bit his cock off."

Let the record show edutcher sucks cock!

Not that there's anything wrong w/that. :-P

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

So Ryan controls what Obama does? Wow. Such power. We should make him president.

JohnJ said...

“We’ll take responsibility.”

Imagine that.

Chuck66 said...

I'm a big T-Paw fan, but this is one of the reasons Mitt picked Ryan over Pawlenty. T-Paw os soooo Minnesotan. Even though he is a good speaker (I have heard him live a few times), he still comes across a bit like a seminar speaker instead of a passionat leader.

Revenant said...

Ryan didn't agree with Bowles-Simpson.

Exactly; both Ryan and Obama agreed that Bowles-Simpson wasn't a good idea.

It never made it to Obama

You think a bill needs to make it to a President before the President can publicly reject it? That's so cute! Anyway, here is Obama's Treasury secretary explaining why his boss rejected Simpson-Bowles, in case you're curious.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

I'll bet Obama is on his way to Paul Krugman's office for a teleprompter upload.

bagoh20 said...

Biden should just call in a forfeit. Stomach flu or something.

shiloh said...

hmm, cons don't want Condi talkin' about 9/11!

Phil 314 said...

Conservatives are geniuses having all the answers to the problems they themselves created ... and Obama is the scum of the earth!

hmm, pretty much mirrors this blog.


Shiloh says as he gazes at his fading Obama poster.

Known Unknown said...

"Ryan voted no for intellectually coherent reasons. He argued that the single biggest contributing factor to public debt is the unsustainable growth of Medicare. Yet the Simpson-Bowles plan did nothing to restructure Medicare, and it sidestepped health care issues generally. Ryan said that it was silly to come up with a debt-reduction proposal that didn’t fix the single biggest driver of the nation’s debt."

Maybe it was a mistake to vote no, although Obama showed little initiative in trying to implement any of the Simpson-Bowels constructs in an a la carte fashion.

Pastafarian said...

Yes, that's a very cogent observation, Shiloh, after Condi, Martinez, and Ryan just got done tearing Obama three new assholes.

garage mahal said...


Exactly; both Ryan and Obama agreed that Bowles-Simpson wasn't a good idea.


No. There was nothing Obama could have agreed to since the commission couldn't agree on anything. Ryan blamed Obama for ignoring something that a. didn't exist b. something Ryan voted against himself.

MadisonMan said...

And how many neophytes can bring an audience to its feet as many times as he did?

Very low bar, when the speaker is the VP nominee speaking at his/her party's convention.

Didn't watch, as I have work to do. VPs typically are the attackers, and it sounds like he did it very well.

I'll look for his Aunt in the pictures, as she is the family member of his that I actually know.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

I paraphrase.. I really liked it when Ryan said:
'Obama acts as if his promises are his record.'

JohnJ said...

A small thing, but can you imagine Obama allowing anyone to poke fun at his musical tastes in a national speech?

Titus said...

Morbidly Obese just got out of his fat chair and did a little jig. And then collapses from exhaustion.

Good exercise morbidly obese Palladian who is invisible to the entire gay population.

Now, eat, eat, eat.....and ask for money from the commenters. Because you are a poor fat fuck fag. The ultimate gay sin. It must be devastating.

edutcher said...

shiloh said...

just bit his cock off.

Let the record show edutcher sucks cock!

Not that there's anything wrong w/that. :-P


If he can't tell the difference between bite and suck, no wonder he hasn't got a girlfriend and has to spend all his time waiting for his non sequiturs and smileys (sooo 90s) to be fed to him.

hmm, cons don't want Condi talkin' about 9/11!

Funny, she just did and was applauded for it.

By the way, still waiting for that explanation on how much more likeable the Romster is these days.

He can also explain those shrinking margins in all those polls he loved to point out until they started going against his Messiah.

And, yes, why hasn't he been bombarding us with a daily update on Zero's poll numbers? He used to.

Until some of us started pointing out how those polls were skewed.

shiloh said...

Let the record show Althouse cons agree ((( all of America's problems were created by conservatives! ))) ie

to the problems they themselves created

Once again, I yield back the balance of my time to confused cons ...

Revenant said...

There was nothing Obama could have agreed to since the commission couldn't agree on anything.

Obama's treasury secretary begs to differ.

Although... given that the guy claims to have been hopelessly confused by TurboTax, I suppose we shouldn't completely rule out the possibility that you know more than him.

dreams said...



"I confess to wondering about the decision to give the New Mexico governor a plum speaking time on a big convention night, just in front of Paul Ryan. But then I had never really seen Susana Martinez in action.

Now that I have, I wonder no more. The sky could be the limit for this rising star."

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/08/susana-martinezs-speech.php

Anonymous said...

Geez. I wish they would rethink that swirly red background. I know it's a stripe on the American flag but it looks hellish when cropped to video.

Not sure about the seventies-style cover band either.

What music do you play during breaks at the Republican convention?

It's Florida. Some Allman Bros. or Tom Petty wouldn't be out of place, assuming they could get permission. If Elton John will play for Rush, maybe some "Crocodile Rock." I've read they're paying Journey half-mil to play for Romney.

shiloh said...

edutcher gets D- for cognitive reasoning, but B- for sucking cock!

Grading on the curve ...

Shouting Thomas said...

You don't have to get permission to play music. Just have to pay the required royalties.

Shouting Thomas said...

Shiloh, you don't have a sense of humor. Most of your comments are remarkably content free.

Try thinking before you type.

Chip Ahoy said...

The bottom of trimmed palm trees look the same as the tops of mature wheat. (background in Van Susteren / Rice interview)

Kurt said...

The Ryan speech was good and I have full confidence in him as a candidate and as a leader, but the Martinez speech was better. She was fantastic!

Revenant said...

This is kind of disappointing.

I mean, garage is making a good effort with the talking points, and is displaying his characteristic skill in acknowledging exactly zero Democratic mistakes.

But the rest of the partisan lefties here just aren't bringing their A-game. They've been reduced to calling people fat cocksuckers already and we haven't even hit 300 comments.

Matt said...

Suddenly it's okay for the right to drool over speeches given by their politicians. Funny that. Weren't they making fun of the left for drooling over Obama?

Oh right, double standards and hypocrisy. Forgot that was part of politics.... Carry on.

Patrick said...

No. There was nothing Obama could have agreed to since the commission couldn't agree on anything. Ryan blamed Obama for ignoring something that a. didn't exist b. something Ryan voted against himself.

Yeah, God forbid Obama comes up with anything based on their ideas, and lead or anything. Not like he's Presi.... oh wait, he is.

For now.

Tyrone Slothrop said...

I am salivating thinking about the vice-presidential debate. Ryan will, of course, cream Slow Joe. I predict Biden will think he won, on the basis of his having used a lot more words than Ryan. Then his staffers will patiently explain to him the reality of the situation.

Shouting Thomas said...

Titus, what happened to you? You used to be funny?

Something gone wrong in your life?

Chuck66 said...

Maybe Titus got caught with a school boy in a Duluth rest stop bathroom.

Chuck66 said...

What's this I hear about the head of the La Crosse AFL-CIO and a county supervisor and a HUGE Obama supporter getting arrested in a prostitution sting? My oh my.

Sloanasaurus said...

My two favorite lines..

"Do we want to live in a country where everything is free, but us?"

"College graduates should not have to spend their twenties in their childhood bedrooms, looking up at their fading Obama posters and wondering when they will be able to get going in life."

dreams said...

To whom it may concern. As to shiloh ..
"Never argue with an idiot. Bystanders won't be able to tell who is the idiot."

chickelit said...

That was a great speech by Ryan. I saw it all live on C-span. This was the first time I actually turned on a TV set in recent history. I avoided the network coverage.

Sloanasaurus said...

"Ryan didn't agree with Bowles-Simpson. He torpedoed it. It never made it to Obama, because there was no report that was finished to hand to Obama."

Ryan voted against it because it kept Obamacare in place, but Ryan had an alternative plan... the House budget.


Obama had a plan and it was voted down in the senate 0-99.

chickelit said...

Titus revealed:
I came from a very uncomfortable family.

When I was young my dad made $9.00/hour and had three kids.


That's odd. I could have sworn that Titus came for a family of 3 or 4 older sisters and his dad was an unsalaried farmer outside of Waunakee, WI. I know he wrote that all here somewhere earlier.

shiloh said...

Cons enjoy your misplaced jubilation!

Seriously ... been there, done that ie 2004.

Again, Kerry won all (3) debates and still lost!

Meade said...

@Palladian, if you're still reading - that last comment of titus's reminded me - I need to get a wedding gift. Something unique and very high quality. Do you have any framed prints available that you can show me? Price doesn't matter. You're familiar with my tastes. Send it at your convenience and tell me what I owe you. I'll mail you check.

Thanks, man.

garage mahal said...

I mean, garage is making a good effort with the talking points, and is displaying his characteristic skill in acknowledging exactly zero Democratic mistakes.

I acknowledged there were mistakes to be capitalized on. So why lie? that was point.

Chip Ahoy said...

dreams, earlier today I wanted to link a photo I saw on reddit, of a girl holding a clear marble in front of a Mercator world map reflecting an image of a tiny crystal globe, but I could not find it. I lingered there on reddit and noted the political entries. Read a few. They are all 100% like educator's little animal, without exception. And it makes one wonder how anything at all could be of any worth over there because of that, but there it was, the pretty little picture of a clear marble globe.

chickelit said...

Ryan and Romney are from the heartland and know what it looks like. Obama isn't and doesn't. I'm sorry, but Hyde Park is no more heartland than Madison Wisconsin is.

End of story.

Chip Ahoy said...

My least favorite part, and you know I usually say my favorite part even if it must be made up, but this time my least favorite part that I heard, was about the gun. A forty-five. So big it was bigger than her. The lady who said that. NM governor or summat. Okay, that's bad enough, bragging about a gun, but then everybody clapped and that gave me the creeps.

hombre said...

"Once again, I yield back the balance of my time to confused cons ..." (10:27)

Where do morons like this get their material, the "dumb as a rock" school of politics?

MadisonMan said...

College graduates should not have to spend their twenties in their childhood bedrooms, looking up at their fading Obama posters and wondering when they will be able to get going in life.

Did Ryan really say that? It's a very good zinger. I'm sure the Delegates loved it.

It would have been better without the reference to the Obama poster, however, because the implication is that the person in the bedroom has made a bad choice. No one likes to hear politicians lecture you on the choices you've made.

Chuck66 said...

chicklit, there have been a couple of threads here on President Obama's background. The lack of growing up in America. Not being in Boy Scouts, or marching in July 4th parades, or having that first job delivering newspapers or mowing lawns, affected his views.

Penny said...

Meade said,

"Price doesn't matter, Palladian."

Anonymous said...

Oh, Christ, Ryan hit it out of the park and every single lefty here knows it. He'll eat Biden for lunch - and every single lefty here knows it.

I thought Condi was good. I thought Martinez was good. But Ryan was fucking fantastic - and every single lefty here knows it.

Penny said...

Thank goodness Meade isn't a Wisconsin congressman.

Penny said...

So let's talk about that.

Chuck66 said...

Every President/VP debate seems to just be rehearsed lines. Virtrually no spotinaty. I wonder if Biden's loose lips and Ryan's intelligence will lead to a real debate between those two. Where they actually say things on the fly, instead of just giving rehearsed responses.

Penny said...

That is exactly how it goes.

You like someone enough?

Price doesn't matter.

Meade said...

Penny, Pallidian knows me. He knows I'm not made of money. He'll find something in my price range.

I trust him. I'd trust my wife, daughter, sons, and/or dog in his care. He is an eminently honorable man.

Alex said...

Madison Man - you can unclench butt cheeks now.

Chuck66 said...

Meade should run for congress from Madison. Imagine that race. Mr cool and laid back vs some flaming lefty.

MadisonMan said...

You have a dog?

Unknown said...

I believe the tear from Scott Walker was real. I believe that sometimes these men and women run for office and endure its down side because they do love their country.

I cried during the Bush video: as 43 told the story of Putin coming into the Oval for the first time and being in awe. They felt awe too, and so did their families.

All in all, as political theater, this convention is a near masterpiece. And why not? As Christie said, Obama has handed them the issues.

Prediction: landslide for Romney.

Penny said...

And if you don't care so much about how much I charge?

Can I also count on you to not care about the quality of my product?

Anonymous said...

Lindsey Meadows said...
gasping for air...can't breathe...ohhh the cheese.

8/29/12 9:49 PM

Uh, no, Lindsey, I think it's the damn cigarettes. The smoke has cut off circulation to your brain.

Unless, of course, you were gasping because despite yourself, you had an orgasm at the sheer awesomeness of Paul Ryan. Entirely understandable.

Palladian said...

Good exercise morbidly obese Palladian who is invisible to the entire gay population.

Except to my fabulous, handsome boyfriend.

Maybe Titus got caught with a school boy in a Duluth rest stop bathroom.

Naw, if the bitch recently got laid, he wouldn't be acting like he's having a nasty period.

Now, eat, eat, eat.....and ask for money from the commenters.

Good idea! Purchase one of my prints and help me buy some beef; I want to cook Tournedos Henri IV for some friends this weekend.

@Palladian, if you're still reading - that last comment of titus's reminded me - I need to get a wedding gift.

Certainly, Meade. I'll email you,

MadisonMan said...

And Alex, my butt cheeks are very relaxed, thanks for asking.

I'm not sure why you're concerned about the muscle tension down there.

BTW, for you Madisonians, I'm late to this party, probably, but the Zanzibar Choc Ice Cream at the Chocolate Shoppe? Oh. My. God.

chickelit said...

Penny asked: So let's talk about that.

Meade could never be a Wisconsin congressman under current realities because he lives in Madison.

You have nothing to fear, Penny.

chickelit said...

@Palladian: Have you tried this gin?

If not, I can have a bottle sent just to hear your opinion.

Penny said...

And what if you DID have money, Meade?

Would your friend, Palladian, charge you any more because of it?

Chip Ahoy said...

Susana Martinez, that's her name. She said something that reminded me of what a Spanish 202 said about her mother. They're from Chili. Her mother got off the airplane and walked down the concourse said to her daughter who was my professor, "Gee, I can sure see why Americans are so successful. They're obsessed with the idea." The daughter asked how so. The mother answered, "Well, they celebrate success in little lights up there EXITO EXITO EXITO EXITO all over the place."

Anonymous said...

I will be in Madison this weekend for my daughter's wedding, Zanzibar ice cream at the Chocolate Shoppe, good idea for after our manicures and pedicures! :)

Palladian said...

@Palladian: Have you tried this gin?

If not, I can have a bottle sent just to hear your opinion.


I have not, and I pride myself with being intimately familiar with all iterations of my ancestor's favorite spirit.

I'd certainly enjoy a taste test, especially as I've not found a really good American gin.

Palladian said...

Would your friend, Palladian, charge you any more because of it?

Of course not! I overcharge everyone!

Palladian said...

[That's a joke, I'm actually very cheap, as my customers and past lovers can attest]

MadisonMan said...

I think Knickerbocker Gin -- made in New Holland MI -- is better than Death's Door.

Death's Door is a great name for a gin, however.

Penny said...

If Meade says, "NO" to my last question, he would be naive.

Quite like "Government Procurement Executives" who prefer to be called smiley faced PURCHASERS with a federal credit card.

Chip Ahoy said...

Then when you visit you will see your art hanging there and you'll be filled with glee and satisfaction. Then cleverly and self-deprecatingly, " Thanks for bringing it out of the garage just for my visit."

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha everybody laughs.

*wispers* "How did he know?"

"No seriously, thanks for not hanging it in the bathroom."

Shouting Thomas said...

Boys, you're killing me. Can't drink any more because of health. Back to the 420!

What I wouldn't give for a couple of shots of Aha Toro tequila!

Patrick said...

Congratulations on your daughter's nuptials, Allie. Hope it's a great weekend for you all.

Ann Althouse said...

The convention has got Meade so pumped up that he keeps playing "Stand With Governor Walker" and getting me to dance with him for the entire 3+ minutes.

Anonymous said...

You don't have to get permission to play music. Just have to pay the required royalties.

But lefty musicians, and most of them are, make a BFD about it otherwise, viz. Springsteen in 1984. Why give them talking points for distraction?

Palladian said...

"No seriously, thanks for not hanging it in the bathroom."

François I, roi de France, hung Leonardo's "Mona Lisa" in his bathroom.

Shouting Thomas said...

I've been playing "Gonna Send You Back to Walker" with those steenkin' Old Dawgz! It's an Animals tune.

Palladian said...

Burn some for me, Shouty.

furious_a said...

I'm getting an RFK vibe here.

Hope it ends differently than '68.

exhelodrvr1 said...

The comments on this thread are a microcosm of our nation's leadership. For the most part, the liberals offer nothing of substance, and the (by far) great majority of the substantive comments come from those in the center and on the right.

bagoh20 said...

The bathroom is a special place to hang "your art". It's the only place a visitor can take his time and ponder it un-distracted... mostly. It's a room of quiet contemplation and rigorous concentration. I would want my art there, if I had any.

Chuck66 said...

exh.....

Yes. I did a search for stories on the convention and the Wisconsin rally today. I think it was the LA Times had two comments about Ryan.

"Liar" and "Nothing but a liar".

Yes, great debators those Democrats.

Chip Ahoy said...

I did not know that about the Mona Lisa. And it goes to show you, there's no respect, no respect at all. That reminded me of one, one of two, that is poorly hung. No joke please. My feelings were hurt. I was hurt when I saw what they did with it. A crap wall in a crap place that nobody would see unless they were looking. So crap. The other one was treated as something special. They were identical. Queen Hatshepsut, bas relief, looks a bit Art Deco. Designed a room around the thing. They were starting out and they started with that.

Penny said...

""Would your friend, Palladian, charge you any more because of it?""

"Of course not! I overcharge everyone!"

That would be funny, if it wasn't sadly, and absurdly true.

bagoh20 said...

I think this is what Chip was talking about with palm trees and wheat.

Pinnacle of The Monument

It's serendipity.

garage mahal said...

I think it was the LA Times had two comments about Ryan.

"Liar" and "Nothing but a liar".


Ryan has had in the past a media distortion field around him. I think that will change after tonight's howler fest. How did he think he could get away blaming Obama for a GM plant closing that happened before Obama was inaugurated? Lyin Ryan.

Known Unknown said...

It would have been better without the reference to the Obama poster, however, because the implication is that the person in the bedroom has made a bad choice. No one likes to hear politicians lecture you on the choices you've made.

I think it's more a reference to the Obama Cult of Personality fading ... that he was elected because of that poster, more than on his merits.

Anonymous said...

After the Ryan speech, which I watched on CSPAN, I briefly turned on MSNBC. Gov. Walker was calmly and politely disboweling Special Ed. So, after a massive hunk of Ryan red meat, there was a light little Walker apertif...and the Brewers won (yes, yes, it was the pitiful Cubs and yes, the Brew Crew's season stinks this year, mainly because of their wretched bullpen, but, hey, I'll take it. Small pleasures make me happy this baseball season.)

A fine night for Wisconsin.

Palladian said...

I only have one piece of artwork hanging in the bathroom, on the wall right across from the toilet. The ancients always present a challenge.

Chip Ahoy said...

It's on Fox right now. Greta's interview outdoors. The background is lit palm tree bottoms. The night time interviews, apparently she interviewed in the same spot in daylight too.

bagoh20 said...

There was a time when every bathroom had a toilet and a Nagel...and cocaine residue.

Patrick said...

He didn't blame Obama for the plant's closing. He correctly stated that Obama failed to open the plant, as promised. "Another 100 years" indeed.

Chip Ahoy said...

I think you should draw one especially for them. I think they like the one of that guy crying, Walker, posted on front. You know, historic.

Chuck66 said...

exile...as much as I like people like Bush 41 and 43, governor Palin and John McCain, it is nice to have people like Walker and Ryan who can really debate like I can (not to brag or anything). Think fast on their feet. Use facts. Turn the arguement back on their aggressors. And stay calm and positive the entire time.

The worst..Bush 43. Basically he thought "well, I am right, and I don't care if you think that way or not, so I will not try to change your's or anyone else's minds".

furious_a said...

blaming Obama for not bailing out a GM plant that closed under Bush...

Production of joint-venture Isuzu light trucks continued through June 2009. Production of GM-branded SUVs stopped in Dec 2008. The plant remained on stand-by at least through late 2011.

Penny said...

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Anonymous said...

Hope it ends differently than '68.

Amen, friend. I don't want to see anyone on any side go down like that.
I'm not sure America has yet healed from those three assassinations in the sixties. Fingers crossed then.

I'd say Ryan has the potential to light up crowds, especially the young. I really can imagine him igniting a new idealism, and the young, when the enormity of the financial odds against them sinks in, may be ready to hear him.

The weird thing about Obama -- aside from just about everything -- is that after he made it to the White House, he left that awesome grassroots machine of youthful idealism to twist in the wind and rust in the rain.

bagoh20 said...

Oh, I thought you meant the very bottom of the palm tree that is all squiggly and filamentous. Now I see the resemblance, but I still like my link.

Penny said...

LOOK!

An errant "f"!

Chuck66 said...

When I was living up in Superior, I had a very small apartment. I could watch TV while sitting on my toilet. It was a guy's dream come true.

Penny said...

What do you suppose that means?

bagoh20 said...

"LOOK!
An errant "f"!


Nuff said.

garage mahal said...

He correctly stated that Obama failed to open the plant, as promised.

False.

Penny said...

Just going to plop myself down right here until Chip Ahoy comes in to clear this all up, bagoh twenty black birds baked in a PIE.

Penny said...

ONE pie!

Unfortunately, we lost four black birds.

Penny said...

All crows!

Penny said...

Damn shame, really.

Might have been some Baltimore Oreos.

furious_a said...

Text of the Obama Janesville speech:

And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years. The question is not whether a clean energy economy is in our future, it’s where it will thrive. I want it to thrive right here in the United States of America; right here in Wisconsin; and that’s the future I’ll fight for as your President.

Politi"fact" also got the closing/idle date wrong.

LoafingOaf said...

Althouse: 11:10: Ryan did a brilliant job. It was much more than a fine speech and an excellent delivery. He embodied that speech. We saw a brilliant candidate.

Of course, Althouse has already done several posts about wanting to see Ryan shirtless, and she has posted comments that suggest she wants to fuck him.

garage mahal said...

Obama made those remarks in February 2008 while running for president, the plant's closing was announced in October 2008, and it closed in December 2008 — before Obama even took office, and months before the stimulus went into effect.

What policy specifics Ryan did talk about, every single one was a lie or grossly misleading.

exhelodrvr1 said...

Oaf,
Thanks for validating my post!

Rose said...

Thx - It's late - and I haven't read the comments yet - but I wondered if you had seen Drudge - the extended hands - Paul Ryan, Clint Eastwood and Condi - has to say something!

Chip Ahoy said...
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Chip Ahoy said...

.357 magnum.

Roger J. said...

Oaf: you said: "...she has posted comments that suggest she wants to fuck him." Are you suggesting that the Professor said that, or that she has posted comments that have asserted that. Could you please clarify your slander?

Palladian said...

Of course, Althouse has already done several posts about wanting to see Ryan shirtless, and she has posted comments that suggest she wants to fuck him.

Of course, a woman can't intellectually support anyone; her attraction can only be sexual in nature.

What a disgusting notion.

This loathsome statement, along with your well-known pathological animus against Sarah Palin, suggests that you're a woman hater of the first order.

It makes me suspicious that you may have some dismembered women buried in your backyard or something.

Creepy!

Roger J. said...

Re the Ryan picture on drudge--I suspect, totally unintended, but that picture looks very much the famous statue of Lenin. I am NOT suggesting that Mr Ryan is anything like Lenin, but he might want to review his hand gestures.

Penny said...

Awwwwwww, look!

Our Chip Ahoy is waving around a gun!

Anonymous said...

garage mahal: Congratulation on trying to be substantive, though of course you do it in the laziest possible way: typing five letters and linking to a web page, with no effort to argue the case yourself.

I like that PolitiFact lays out most of the facts, but I consider their assessments slanted to Democrats and this is a good example.

Ryan said:

A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that GM plant. Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said: 'I believe that if our government is there to support you … this plant will be here for another hundred years.' That’s what he said in 2008. Well, as it turned out, that plant didn’t last another year. It is locked up and empty to this day. And that’s how it is in so many towns today, where the recovery that was promised is nowhere in sight.

Obama said:

And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years.

Show me the lie in what Ryan said.

PolitiFact makes a big deal that Obama didn't promise anything, but note that Ryan did not say Obama made a promise. And the government did support the automakers with $14 billion to GM and Chrysler.

PollitiFact makes a big deal that the company failed under Bush, not Obama, but my takeaway is that it failed so quickly that not only did the company not last one hundred years, it didn't survive enough months to fail under Obama's inauguration.

The Creeley score for PolitiFact and garage:

FALSE.

Next time, garage do some work yourself.

LoafingOaf said...
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Penny said...

Is he just the nicest guy ever, or what?

Roger J. said...

So Oaf--nowhere did the Hostess say she wanted to fuck him--is that correct? In other words you are making shit up

LoafingOaf said...

exhelodrvr1 said...
Oaf,
Thanks for validating my post!


Excuse me? Althouse did at least three blog posts about seeing Paul Ryan without a shirt, and in her comments she stated that the candidates who win are those that females wanna fuck. So, I took that to mean she wants to fuck Paul Ryan and that's a large reason she will vote for him.

I actually thought Paul Ryan did a pretty good speech. It was a much better night for the GOP than last night, where Ann Romney was a phoney and Chris Christie was just out to promote himself. The New Mexico governor who introed Ryan gave a good speech too. No one's talking about what I think are some of the biggest issues, such as how to get our troops home and how to end the War on Drugs, but I didn't expect them to. I despise all of these national level politicians. But don't tell me I wasn't supposed to notice that Althouse was hot to see Paul Ryan without a shirt. Once she frevealed she gets wet for Paul Ryan you have to downgrade anything she says about the guy from there on.

But, yeah, I thought it was a better night for the GOP. You all aree such partisan tools that you didn't notice last night was a bust for your party. And this night started bad, too, with all the garbage speeches by im Pawlenty and Rob Portman and so on. I live in Ohio and Ron Portman is a joke here. Yeah, he won a Senate seat, but remember that we only get a choice of two people. He's pretty much a non-entity here. But some of you thought he was VP caliber! LOL!

But,yeah, things improved when Miss Rice took the stage, and then that governor of New Mexico, and then Paul Ryan. The media is pointing out some lies from Ryan, like about the GM plant that actually closed under Bush, but it was a good speech. Since I don't wanna have sex with him like Althouse does, I wasn't very carried away.

Patrick said...

""I believe if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years," Obama said.

Government is still there, in all its $800 billion dollar stimulus glory. No Janesville plant. Another Obama failure.

No plan for the economy beyond hope and change. I really don't understand why you would think this President is worth defending.

Roger J. said...

Oaf: "So, I took that to mean she wants to fuck Paul Ryan and that's a large reason she will vote for him.


Really--is that your thought process? Pathetic

wildswan said...

Garage
You keep saying that Simpson Bowles did not finish their report due to Paul Ryan - that's not what happened.

1. Simpson-Bowles finished their report but it was not accepted by the majority. But Obama could have used it as basis for his own proposals. Instead Obama is completely ignoring its warnings and its recommendations. And he has no alternative. That's what Ryan is pointing out.

Ryan disagreed with Simpson-Bowles, voted against it, and proposed his own alternative. That's the difference between Ryan and Obama - Ryan proposed an alternative. Obama just went out for golf - or was it a fund raiser?

LoafingOaf said...

Roger J: Really--is that your thought process? Pathetic

It's not my thought process, it's what Althouse said! She did several posts about the search for shirtless pics of Romney, then she did a post about her theory that elections are decided by what candidates are better looking. In the comments of that post she said by that she meant candidates females wanna fuck.

Anonymous said...

Oaf: "So, I took that to mean she wants to fuck Paul Ryan and that's a large reason she will vote for him. Really--is that your thought process? Pathetic 8/30/12 12:41 AM Yeah, it is. At the 2004 Dem convention, I recognized Obama gave a brilliant speech. Even during the faux Greek columns speech in '08, I had to hand it to the guy. It was a good speech, although I disagreed with him. But Oaf? He's so blindly partisan, so stupid, so desperate,so sexist, that he can only reduce Ryan's speech to "Ugh! They wanna fuck him!!! Yeah, that's it!!!"
Oaf: Your nic suits you perfectly.

LoafingOaf said...

Down in some comments: Althouse said.... Another way of thinking about it is: Which man would women rather go to bed with?

This was after a series of posts where she was discussing Paul Ryan without a shirt.

Palladian said...

Loafing Oaf, too dense to understand what Althouse was doing in her commentary.

LoafingOaf said...

Sorry, Palladian, but once I see that someone gets wet for a candidate like a junior high girl hot for Justin Beiber, I downgrade everything they say about that candidate.

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