August 29, 2012

Live-blogging Day 2 of the GOP Convention.

6:03: Ayla Brown — the erstwhile "American Idol" contestant and daughter of Senator Scott Brown — sings the National Anthem.

6:07: "Please release each one of us from ego"... part of the invocation, given by a Sikh.

6:08: The color guard are amputee veterans, which we see because they're wearing shorts, earning a new, immediate exception to my "men in shorts" rule.

6:10: A bombastic tribute to Ron Paul. "No, no, I'm not going to be elected," he said to his wife. "To be elected, you've got to be like Santa Claus." Rand Paul says one thing he likes about his father is the lobbyists don't even bother to come by his office.

6:29: I found it hard to watch Mitch McConnell. I almost got out my sketchbook and pen, though, because his face says "Caricature me!" So I moved from C-SPAN over to CNN. (I'm recording both, and also Fox News.) They had an interview with Paul Ryan, in which Gloria Borger prodded him about how he felt when, as a 16-year-old boy, he discovered his father dead. Ryan moved on to how you have to live knowing you could die at any time, so Gloria asked why he didn't live fast and run right away for President. He said there were others who could do that job, but he was the only one would could father his young children. Gloria did not proceed to ask why then is he taking on the VP slot, but I guess that's a very short campaign period and, frankly, once you get it, it's a lot less work than chairing the House Finance Committee. Then Piers Morgan was interviewing Michele Bachmann, and the 2 of them agreed that Ann Romney was just lovely and then enthused about the "miracle" of the 2 of them agreeing, which Wolf Blitzer then echoed, sending me back to C-SPAN which was showing the on-stage entertainer, a horrifying aging rock singer who was belting the line "I'm back in the game" over and over.

6:30: Rand Paul: "You know when the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare, the first words out of my mouth were 'I still think it's unconstitutional.'" Pushed to reflect, he reflected, and he still thinks it's unconstitutional. "The whole damned thing is unconstitutional." Meade says, "He said 'damned.'" And then, more seriously: "What we have here is crazy old Ron Paul" — and Meade makes a Ron Paul face — "morphing into Rand Paul."

6:50: Video of the Bushes, 41 and 43, and their wives, Barbara and Laura. So they weren't entirely banished from this place. They are circumspect, yet charming, claiming their place in history without seeming the slightest bit arrogant. Old Bush even does his Dana Carvey imitation imitation: "Not gon' do it. Wouldn't be prudent."

7:00: John McCain. Why is he here and not George Bush? McCain lost. Bush won twice. Meade says: "Because Bush is through with politics." McCain gives a paean to foreign wars in the cause of freedom, and the crowd's response is tepid.

7:50: Danny Gokey — another "American Idol" person. Another Wisconsin person.

8:00: Rob Portman, the short-list guy who came up short. "We need Romney/Ryan and we need them now." He seems perfectly fine, but I am glad he was not Romney's choice. There's some insurmountable dullness about him, no matter what he says, no matter how enthusiastically.

8:31: Another VP also-ran, Tim Pawlenty. He's reading jokes. For example: Obama is "the tattoo President" — it seemed cool at the time, but you look at it and say "What was I thinking?"

9:15: Huckabee and Rice both gave very long speeches that were neither bad nor good. Here's some text from Rice's speech.

9:19: Biggest cheer of the night comes when Gov. Susana Martinez says: "I carried at 357 Smith & Wesson Magnum" (referring to her experience, as an 18-year-old, working for her parents security guard business, protecting the Catholic church at bingo times). She's a good speaker. A nice edge of passion in her voice. With toughness.

9:29: Both Meade and I thought: We may be looking at the first woman President of the United States.

9:30: Paul Ryan. Meade says: "He looks like a young JFK only healthy." I'm struck by this quote, directly attacking Obama: "I have never seen opponents so silent about their record and so desperate to keep their power. They've run out of ideas. Their moment came and went. Fear and division is all they've got left."

9:40: As Paul Ryan expresses his love for the state of Wisconsin, the C-SPAN camera closes in on Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, and we see there's a tear rolling down his cheek.



That was pointed out by Meade, who confesses to a tear of his own.

9:55: Paul Ryan gives a moving tribute to his mother, who, as a new widow, commuted 40 miles a day to Madison — to my school, the University of Wisconsin — to learn the skills she used to build a new business and a new life in which her happiness was not just in the past and to become his role model. After a long ovation from the crowd, Ryan moves into what will be the greatest iteration of what has been the convention's them: You did build that. He says:
Behind every small business, there's a story worth knowing. All the corner shops in our towns and cities, the restaurants, cleaners, gyms, hair salon, hardware stores — these didn't come out of nowhere. A lot of heart goes into each one. And if small business people say they made it on their own, all they are saying is that nobody else worked 7 days a week in their place, nobody showed up in their place to open the door at 5 in the morning, nobody did their thinking and worrying and sweating for them. After all that work and in a bad economy, it sure doesn't help to hear from their President that government gets the credit. What they deserve to hear is the truth: Yes, you did build that!
11:10: Ryan did a brilliant job. It was much more than a fine speech and an excellent delivery. He embodied that speech. We saw a brilliant candidate.

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Anonymous said...

Oh, and Oaf, I have low-info Dem-leaning female relatives in Ryan's district and let me tell you, those baby blues and biceps don't hurt him one bit.

The more knowledgable voters are won over by his obvious smarts and logic. The less knowledgable ones - well, the cut bod and boyish good looks certainly help. They'l l help more when he debates Choo-Choo Biden.

It's a one-two punch, dear. Brains and looks.

(Surely you weren't protesting when women were fainting at Obama speeches in 2008? You aren't upset about women swooning for JFK's movie star appearance back in the day? Of course not. Because you're blinded by partisan hate.)

You're just pissed because you would like to portray Ryan as a bimbo like you did with Palin. Dearie, you can't.

Unknown said...

The Obama democrats are "intellectually" exhausted after 3.5 years. Pathetic.

The only economic weapon left the Keynesians have is a QE 3 monetary spew by the Fed even though the previous attempts have failed.

It's over. Obama is toast barring a war with Iran.

Anonymous said...

Ann was arguing that some candidates are more attractive than others and that's a plus for them at the ballot box. It's not a complicated idea and it's really not the same as wanting to boff some such candidate oneself.

I can acknowledge that lots of people are attractive without wanting to bed them, much less f*** them, as the Oaf so elegantly puts it.

Once I see a commenter incapable of understanding rather ordinary observations such as Ann's, I downgrade everything that commenter says ... period.

It doesn't help when that commenter is flat crude and repulsive as well.

LoafingOaf said...

And that's why I 100% knew that Althouse would say Paul Ryan was "brilliant" before he ever said a single word. Brilliant? Putting aside that he had speech writers, is this a speech that will be remembered a month from now? A brilliant speech is a speech that's remembered GENERATIONS from now. But some people wanna see him shirtless, so they get carried away....

The main thing I take away from this convention is what a huge waste of money it is. So much spent on a convention, and so much police time and so forth. For what? Most of the speeches are total bullshit. Have the main speeches on TV from anywhere and save millions of dollars.

Roger J. said...

As it turns out I agree with Oaf on the asininity of conventions-if you think the RNC convention was bad wait for the democrat conventon. Aboloish conventons and presendial debates as well.

LoafingOaf said...

creeley23:

She did that post after she did several posts about the hunt to see Paul Ryan without a shirt on. Like I said, I 100% knew that Althouse would gush abut Paul Ryan's speech after all that. And that's exactly what she did. Althouse didn't have ONE SINGLE criticism of Paul Ryan, even though the fact-checkers have already pointed out lies. To Althouse he was a "young JFK only healthy" and "we saw a brilliant candidate". What a low standard we have for "brilliant" nowadays. Like I said, to me a "brilliant" speech is one that will be remembered 100 years from now. I've already said I thought Ryan gave a good speech. I don't want to fuck him so I didn't get very carried away about it.

Anonymous said...

"And that's why I 100% knew that Althouse would say Paul Ryan was "brilliant" before he ever said a single word. Brilliant? Putting aside that he had speech writers, is this a speech that will be remembered a month from now? A brilliant speech is a speech that's remembered GENERATIONS from now"

How do you know how the fuck long a speech will be remembered? I remember Reagan's "Tear down this wall" speech now. I didn't know I would remember it decades in the future when I first watched it. And yet - I remember it, like I remember other Reagan speeches. And I was a Dem when Reagan was president.

If Romney is elected, this speech will certainly be remembered.

Oh, Oaf, please let me know of the Memorable Sayings and Speeches of Bill Clinton. I remember his speeches ran on for hours. And yet, all I can remember him saying are a handful of sound bites. "I did not have sex with that woman." "End welfare as we know it."(The Dems have forgotten that one.) "The meaning of is is..."

Really, Oaf, what am I missing? You are the judge of the Ciceros of our age - you tell me.

Penny said...

May I paraphrase?


"Weary of theater."

Anonymous said...

And that's why I 100% knew that Althouse would say Paul Ryan was "brilliant" before he ever said a single word.

This says far more about your tiny reasoning powers and delusions of intelligence than anything else.

Althouse shoots down lots of people even if she liked them at first -- Obama (an attractive guy, as I'm sure Althouse has observed at some point) comes to mind.

I regret being so out of sorts but I'm fed up with the brainless nastiness you and the other liberal commenters rain down in quantity in these threads.

LoafingOaf said...

Roger J: As it turns out I agree with Oaf on the asininity of conventions-if you think the RNC convention was bad wait for the democrat conventon. Aboloish conventons and presendial debates as well.

The debates are so controlled that they're not even real debates. And the conventions seem a massive waste of money.

Palladian said...

I don't want to fuck him so I didn't get very carried away about it.

We've all been fucked by Barack Obama. I think Ryan would be a much more thoughtful top.

Anonymous said...

Christ, the people who heard the Gettysburg Address thought it was a flop. I'm certainly not comparing Ryan's speech to Lincoln's, although Ryan's was certainly one of the best political speeches I've heard in my lifetime and I'm not a spring chicken.

Just saying that it is arrogant and supremely stupid to instantly condemn a speech and chalk praise for it up to "You want to fuck him, that's why!"

Bottom line: Ryan said things Oaf didn't want to hear and Oaf is butthurt. oohh, poor boy.

Anonymous said...

Christ, the people who heard the Gettysburg Address thought it was a flop. I'm certainly not comparing Ryan's speech to Lincoln's, although Ryan's was certainly one of the best political speeches I've heard in my lifetime and I'm not a spring chicken.

Just saying that it is arrogant and supremely stupid to instantly condemn a speech and chalk praise for it up to "You want to fuck him, that's why!"

Bottom line: Ryan said things Oaf didn't want to hear and Oaf is butthurt. oohh, poor boy.

Alex said...

Oaf - you're a creepy partisan Obama-bot who is incapable of seeing other people's viewpoints as valid.

Chip Ahoy said...

Memorable speeches. In the future. The speech that I will remember the best is the first guy who says, "We're going to smash these douchbags heads in."

I'll remember were I was when I heard it. Like, I was sitting there watching my fish watching me sipping my Ovaltine and and suddenly this guy said they're going to smash these douchebags heads in. The memorable speech that stirred a slumbering nation. In the future.

Alex said...

My favorite part was when Ryan mocked those 20-something Obama voters who are back living in their parent's house with their fading Obama posters.

Cedarford said...

Looks like from the standpoint of energizing his Party, Romney chose well when he picked Paul Ryan.

And no slight on Sarah Palin...but Ryan comes with a certain amount of intellectual gravitas and a track record of winning the vote of independents and women.

Well done, Mr. Romney!

Alex said...

C4 - Clint Eastwood is on tomorrow.

Chip Ahoy said...

I have a fading King Tut poster.

It's unusual. Tall. Oblique photograph of innermost coffin. Solid gold. Not on display. The coffin, nor the poster of it.

It's an odd narrow shape. Fits a very narrow wall really well. My brother broke the glass. :-(

But he won't admit it. I go, "you broke this." He goes, "huh-uh." I go, "Did too," he goes, "did not," back and forth like that, so nowhere.

It's not really fading, but it has grease dots on it. Like grease made a dot that touched the glass and spread to a larger dot. A pimple. Zit. The poster has zits and it cannot be repaired. Too bad, it's one of my favorite things. My housekeeper broke off the cat's ear. Bastet. I swear these people vex me.

LoafingOaf said...

You guys don't know what I believe. I was right there with the governor of New Mexico when she was talking about whether welfare if a way of life or a help up. I don't think welfare should be a way of life and I know that it is for a lot of people.

exiledonmainst, we're supposed to be the greatest country in the world, and we have a lot of brilliant speeches in our history. You expect so little. I would think the greatest country in the world should be able to find candidates who can deliver great speeches. Instead we have speech writers who feed words to candidates who look good. My understanding is that Reagan's political advisers tried to keep him from saying "tear down this wall" and Reagan bucked them. We haven't had a great president since.

Revenant said...

Sorry, Palladian, but once I see that someone gets wet for a candidate like a junior high girl hot for Justin Beiber

I'm enjoying watching Oaf's confused summary of Althouse's comment slowly drift from "exaggeration" to "pedophile's sex fantasy".

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shiloh said...

Voters don't vote for a v-p, ask Edwards. But they have been known to vote against ie mama grizzly.

Keep hope alive!

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Alex said...
My favorite part was when Ryan mocked those 20-something Obama voters who are back living in their parent's house with their fading Obama posters.

I agree that that was a good line.

I'm not in love with Obama. I think he's a moderate and a lesser of the evils presented to me. I think he was better than McCain and is better than Romney, and I can't forget where out country was at when Bush left office (in multiple wars and on the brink of economic collapse). I can only choose from the choices given.

I disagree with most of you on Obamacare, which I'm okay with and think is a good thing for the American people, particularly children with pre-existing conditions. Obama, who wanted single-payer, made a compromise with health care. The Republicans had decades to do something better and they showed they didn't care. That was their choice that they didn't care, but it's their record. Obamacare, however, was modeled on the ideas from Republican think tanks and what Romney did in Massachusetts. I don't think the richest country in the world should be a place where millions of people can't get decent health care and are using emergency rooms instead.

My father just had skin cancer discovered on his bald head in its earliest stage, and if he had not been going to a dermatologist on a regular basis it probably would not have been caught before it gotten far worse. Preventative care is vitally important and America should ensure that every citizen has it. I question the basic morals of those who think otherwise.

You guys told us Obama would be a disaster in the War on Terrorism, but actually we have not been having terrorist attacks under Obama and he took out bin Laden. He took out bin Laden by going into Pakistan, something he said he'd do in his 2008 campaign and for which John McCain and the Althouse commenters mocked him.

Chip Ahoy said...

I cannot vote for these guys.

Ryan said his i-pod goes from AC-DC to Zeppelin

That would be "L" for Led Zeppelin, (dumbass)

No ZZ Top? Zion, for Christ's sake. Zillion, Zumpan, Zombies, Zappa.

Abba. A-1 Swift, Aaron Tippin, Abandon Jalopy, Abandoned Pools, Abbacadabra.



shiloh said...

Indeed LO, remember when cons said Obama would get tested very early in his presidency w/a foreign crisis ?!?

Still waiting ... just like I'm still waiting for Nixon's secret plan to end the Vietnam War which is still a secret! I digress.

Revenant said...

My father just had skin cancer discovered on his bald head in its earliest stage, and if he had not been going to a dermatologist on a regular basis it probably would not have been caught before it gotten far worse.

So its all about you, then. You've concocted a fantasy where your dad wouldn't have suffered if only the government had handed out more checks -- and thereby justified, to yourself, taking as much money from others as is necessary to see that through.

Me, I worry about the people who will be denied *actual* care because nitwits like you think we can dump tens of millions of freeloaders into an already beyond-capacity health care system, while slashing reimbusements to caregivers, without causing shortages. I worry about the future generations who won't have new drugs and treatments because you've eliminated the profit motive that creates them. I worry about the trillions of dollars of debt future generations will be saddled with from this health care boondoggle, all because neither you nor your dad felt like shelling out the $75 his dermatologist checkup would have cost (without insurance).

But to you, of course, it's all about you. You fuck up; we pay.

shiloh said...

Speaking of music, since Huckleberry mentioned Bono, maybe U-2 should land at the Dem convention next week.

Revenant said...

Indeed LO, remember when cons said Obama would get tested very early in his presidency w/a foreign crisis ?!?

Such as, for example, ramping up our forces in Afghanistan and losing the war anyway? :)

shiloh said...

Interesting neither mittens or Ryan want to talk about Afghanistan, go figure as they haven't got a clue re: foreign policy.

Revenant said...

Interesting neither mittens or Ryan want to talk about Afghanistan

It's the economy, stupid. :)

Alex said...

Funny that Obama has nothing to say about Iran's genocidal intentions on Israel.

Revenant said...

Funny that Obama has nothing to say about Iran's genocidal intentions on Israel.

Not really an important issue, but true enough.

If you measured the relative importance of the issues facing America by the amount of time the Obama campaign spends talking about them, you would be forced to conclude that the most overwhelmingly important issue facing America today is that Mitt Romney is only releasing two years' worth of tax returns.

The economy would be mentioned somewhere in the footnotes, with an aside that Mitt Romney's failure to release his tax returns has denied jobs to literally hundreds of Democratic tax lawyers who would otherwise have been hired to comb through them for dirt. :)

LoafingOaf said...

So its all about you, then. You've concocted a fantasy where your dad wouldn't have suffered if only the government had handed out more checks -- and thereby justified, to yourself, taking as much money from others as is necessary to see that through.

He's not suffering. He's had two quick surgeries and has a bandage on his head, and it looks like he's fine. My point was, if he hadn't been having regular check-ups it would not have been caught in its earliest stage. He had no idea there was something going on, but he was having regular screenings for it.

LoafingOaf said...

Funny that Obama has nothing to say about Iran's genocidal intentions on Israel.

You think Obama isn't worried about Iran? Didn't he order cyber-attacks to cripple Iran's nuclear program? He has kept a preventative military strike on the table, but I guess you want him to run around singing "bomb-bomb-bomb bomb-bomb Iran" like John McCain?

What would YOU do about Iran? What will Romney do?

Romney hasn't said he'd do anything different.

See here: Romney camp dodges questions on Iran

bgates said...

remember when cons said Obama would get tested very early in his presidency w/a foreign crisis

You mean this?

It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama....Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy

That was Joe Biden in October 2008, the famous "Gird Your Loins" speech.

bgates said...

My point was, if he hadn't been having regular check-ups it would not have been caught in its earliest stage

In the fantasy world where the government pays for universal regular checkups for every known disease in an effort to reduce medical spending, do the dermatologists all look like Liv Tyler? Because I could get on board with that.

BTW, it takes very little Googling to find the guidance.gov website, which leads off by saying that in the three sets of guidelines for skin cancer screening and prevention which this federal body decided to compare,

All of the guidelines are in general agreement that there is insufficient evidence to support screening (PEBC and USPSTF specify using total body skin examination or patient skin self-examination) of the general population at average risk of skin cancer.

Your blithe confidence that ceding tremendous power to the federal government will lead to a good outcome even in the tiny specific benefit you're concerned about seems to be based less on what the relevant sections of the federal government has said about their plans, and more on you being somewhat of a stupid person.

rasqual said...

"You guys told us Obama would be a disaster in the War on Terrorism, but actually we have not been having terrorist attacks under Obama and he took out bin Laden."

Yeah -- reluctantly. And botched the aftermath. And eagerly involved Hollyood in hopes that a hagiObamagraphy would be produced.

As for saying he'd be a disaster, I guess I'm not part of the "you guys" cohort you have in mind. I just declared that the BDS sufferers who voted for 'im would find him inevitably continuing Bush practices in the WoT. I didn't know, at the time, that he'd raise Bush's bet and start offing terrorists to avoid increasing the numbers at a Gitmo he never closed.

Assassin in Chief. Now you guys brag about what you loathed under Bush.

Please, wiggah.

Cedarford said...

"You guys told us Obama would be a disaster in the War on Terrorism, but actually we have not been having terrorist attacks under Obama and he took out bin Laden."
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Love how Dems try and cast the bin Laden whacking as Obama being the one who found him and personally led the mission...while Bush failed

Akin to saying Nixon personally did the moon landing, after JFK and LBJ FAILED to get it done.

************
Soon after the law lecturer, golfer and speechifier landed in office, he was told that the reason we didn't have Islamoids doing elaborate plots on us - just lone Islamoids gunning Americans down or setting off small, mostly failed bombs - was that Bush Administration had disrupted them so badly by killing leaders and crippling their command and control comms to avoid going to Allah they couldn't do effective plots.
Obama worried about the precious terrorist rights.
Up to a point. He soon realized staying in power meant continuing whacking Islamoids, keeping GITMO Open, giving the CIA the tools and resources they needed. And staying in power so he and Michelle could keep all the perks was pretty important. But best of all, his advisors told him all the progressive Jews and hard leftists that wanted Bush prosecuted as a war criminal would shut up in the media, academia, even legal activist community in deference to the Black Messiah. So Obama could whack away with Bush's critics maintaining complete silence if it was a socialist Democrat doing what Bush did.

edutcher said...

We note the little animal has taken to the phrase "Let the record show" when he's about to say something for which there is no factual basis.

It's replaced his failed "whining" wheeze.

Maybe one day he'll find something that actually works.

Ann Althouse said...

The convention has got Meade so pumped up that he keeps playing "Stand With Governor Walker" and getting me to dance with him for the entire 3+ minutes.

The couple that dances together, romances together.

Voters don't vote for a v-p, ask Edwards. But they have been known to vote against ie mama grizzly.

Sure, that explains all those McCain - Palin yard signs we all saw cut in 2 and restacked to read Palin - McCain.

Indeed LO, remember when cons said Obama would get tested very early in his presidency w/a foreign crisis ?!?

No, that was Biden. Within 6 months was the exact time frame.

Poor little animal, he's so bereft of wit, he got to quote from Halo Joe.

Interesting neither mittens or Ryan want to talk about Afghanistan, go figure as they haven't got a clue

Neither do Choom or Joe. Funny, things were going pretty good when Dubya left office.

Still waiting on that explanation of how the Romster's 5 up in the likeability thing.

PS We ought to take up a collection so the little animal can find some Democrats that actually succeeded.

He's reduced to quoting Joe Biden and telling us how great Lurch was.

Robert Cook said...

"I just declared that the BDS sufferers who voted for 'im would find him inevitably continuing Bush practices in the WoT. I didn't know, at the time, that he'd raise Bush's bet and start offing terrorists to avoid increasing the numbers at a Gitmo he never closed.

"Assassin in Chief. Now you guys brag about what you loathed under Bush."


You're right...it was wrong when Bush did it, and it's wrong when Obama does it.

They're both criminals and murderers and should both be prosecuted.

damikesc said...

Hey, liberals are just more interesting and have more fun!

The insane are frequently interesting, no doubt.

Ryan was on Simpson-Bowles and voted against it. This fucker can lie as much as Romney!

He didn't like the compromise that they put forth --- but THEY PUT FORTH A PLAN OF SOME SORT.

The President discarded the plan he called for and put forth...nothing. As usual.

Ryan has put forth several proposals. Can Obama be bothered to propose one?

Or, hell, can he just stop fundraising and campaigning for a moment and actually do his Presidential duties for the harmed people in Louisiana? Jindal has requested federal assistance and it isn't coming yet, at last check.

Condi, along w/Cheney/Bush/Rummy caught w/((( their pants down on 9/11. )))

Yet again...tell us what they should have done.

Here is LITERALLY all they knew.

OBL wanted to attack America.
Federal buildings in NYC were scoped out.

Provide a plan of action of any sort to deal with it. Keep in mind that no federal buildings in NYC were hit on 9/11 as well...so the one remotely actionable piece of intel was actually taken care of.

Newcomer lol no shit, totally inexperienced on the national stage.

...yet you voted for Obama. Funny.

Politifact will be hiring after fact checking lie fest.

Wasn't that the group that said Romney's comment about Obama not visiting Israel as President was a lie, in spite of Obama not having visited Israel as President?

"Fact checking" has jumped the shark. These sites are now referenced as jokes.

damikesc said...

Ryan didn't agree with Bowles-Simpson. He torpedoed it.

Geithner says they killed it, so take up your complaints with him. You seem to have massive cognitive dissonance hitting. On the verge of cranial/rectal inversion now.

Suddenly it's okay for the right to drool over speeches given by their politicians. Funny that. Weren't they making fun of the left for drooling over Obama?

There's been a distinct lack of fainting over these speeches. Also, we aren't discussing, ad nauseum, how the candidates are teh GREATESTESTEST SPEAKERS EVER!!!!

"Never argue with an idiot. Bystanders won't be able to tell who is the idiot."

I thought it was "Don't argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience".

JAL said...

In case no one has pointed this out to Garage:

Fact-checking the "factcheckers" on the Janesville GM Plant.

Well, the previous commnets last night confirm what we already knew -- Garage has the lib/prog playbook at his fingertips at all times. (And he lives in WI?)

JAL said...

I saw a run down of the speeches and topics on the list for Charlotte.

Loafing Oaf is smoking oaf.

No connection to the real world at all.

It will be hard to watch, so I will follow on the net. But there is a real sense before hand of No. Comparison.

Thorley Winston said...

He didn't like the compromise that they put forth --- but THEY PUT FORTH A PLAN OF SOME SORT.

The President discarded the plan he called for and put forth...nothing. As usual.

Ryan has put forth several proposals. Can Obama be bothered to propose one?>


This. Ryan didn’t like what the rest of the commission came up with so he put out a proposal under his own name and fought for it. When the f*** has Obama ever done that? Hell his supporters can’t even keep straight whether and when it’s racist to refer to the new health law as a “Obamacare.”

furious_a said...

I would think the greatest country in the world should be able to find candidates who can deliver great speeches.

Juan Peron gave great speeches -- look what he and his wife did to Argentina.

I prefer a country who can find candidates that deliver on their promises.

Known Unknown said...

Speaking of music, since Huckleberry mentioned Bono, maybe U-2 should land at the Dem convention next week.

Be careful what you wish for ... Bono is a Catholic.

Known Unknown said...

I prefer a country who can find candidates that deliver on their promises.

People of New Orleans are still waiting for their sea levels to drop.

leslyn said...

"C-SPAN camera closes in on Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, and we see there's a tear rolling down his cheek." Cool. Reminds me of William Hurt in "Broadcast News."

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