September 29, 2012

Did you watch the Tammy and Tommy debate?

I did, and one of the things I said out loud while watching it was: "I'm glad I didn't blog that I was going to live-blog this." I had, however, blogged to predict that it would be boring, which it mostly was.

We did get some laughs, especially when Tommy said "I built Wisconsin," which he later modifed to "We built Wisconsin." I lost count of the number of times he said he was governor "for 14 years," which was nearly always followed by the statement that he lowered "taxes 91 times," which tied to Tammy having no "record to run on" and being "a taxer and a spender." Those were his talking points.

Tommy was all about how we here in Wisconsin already know him. He's Tommy — call me Tommy — and she's Tammy — you don't know her, but let me tell you she's the biggest liberal in the House, ranked #1 biggest taxer/spender, and that's not an easy achievement, to actually be #1.

Christian Schneider writes:
Tommy was, well, Tommy.  He, too, jumbled a few sentences, but Wisconsin has been bearing witness to his sporadic malapropisms for decades.
Hilarious video of Tommy at the 1997 Super Bowl embedded. 
But Tommy seemed comfortable and confident.  When he got rolling, he seemed fiery and knowledgeable.  While Baldwin tried to wade through the weeds of issues, Thompson spoke over the moderators and to the eight people watching at home, using broader themes and more hopeful language.

The best part of the debate, however, was when the topics moved to foreign affairs.  When I realized Thompson was going to attempt to say the name "Ahmadinejad," I squealed with joy like a little girl.  It was a remarkable feat of courage - like the sprinter with no legs who made it to the Olympics.  What came out of his mouth sounded more like an ancient spell than the Iranian leader's name - I had to check to see that I hadn't turned into a toad.
Toad?! I used that word out loud while watching the debate last night. I said Tommy looked like a toad. He's not a pretty man. (Wisconsin rejected the pretty man — Eric Hovde — in the primary.) But everyone looked awful in the lighting at that public-TV studio. Tammy has a shot at looking so much better than Tommy, but Wisconsin was getting its first long look at her in an extremely unflattering light, and that cut Tommy a break.
Also entertaining was watching Tommy answer a question about gay marriage.  At one point during his answer, he paused for a good five seconds to navigate all the land mines that were likely lodged in his mind.  It was evident he had a vision of Tammy Baldwin dancing with Wonder Woman floating around in his head and needed a quiet moment to suppress it.

But Baldwin really disappointed.  At one point, she preposterously tried to paint herself as "bipartisan," which is like a cheetah trying to pass itself off as a vegetarian. 
Yeah, she made a reference to some bill she had co-sponsored with Scott Walker back when she was a state legislator. She smiled primly, but said nothing of the subject matter of the bill, and Meade made up some title for the most uncontroversial and inconsequential piece of legislation ever, something like proclaiming Wauwatosa High School Marching Band the High School Marching Band of the Week.

45 comments:

Brent said...

But Baldwin really disappointed. At one point, she preposterously tried to paint herself as "bipartisan," which is like a cheetah trying to pass itself off as a vegetarian.

Republicans can be dishonest, but Democrats are congenitally so.

Tommy for the WIN!

Brent said...

Hey - why is it that Titus can post stuff that doesn't relate to the topic at hand

and Shiloh can just come and berate conservatives apart from the topic

but others get removed for "being off topic"?


Cruel neutrality?????



LilyBart said...

Cruel neutrality?????

Surely you didn't buy that? I though we were all in on the joke.

Steve Austin said...

If you want to talk about Tommy's physical appearance, he's Floyd Gondoli, aka Phillip Baker Hall

Good link here

Tommy knows how to get things done. He may have been in film in the past, but he knows video is the future.

Deekaman said...

So...Tammy disappointed, but Tommy was a toad. Based on Althouse's post earlier regarding the free Obamaphone,I expect her to vote for the disappointing (and lying) Tammy Baldwin.

America's Politico said...

The debate I and my S.O. will watch will be from WH. We want to see POTUS take on Romney, wash the floor. Oh, my, oh, my, we will all of the GOP crying and crying. It will be the evening from hell for Romney.

Brent said...

Call Tommy a racist, and Ann will vote for Tammy!

Andy R. said...

Also entertaining was watching Tommy answer a question about gay marriage. At one point during his answer, he paused for a good five seconds to navigate all the land mines that were likely lodged in his mind. It was evident he had a vision of Tammy Baldwin dancing with Wonder Woman floating around in his head and needed a quiet moment to suppress it.

What did he actually say? Is there a transcript of the debate?

Andy R. said...

I mean, after his campaign gay-baited Baldwin, he has to walk a fine line between doubling down on his bigotry (and losing independents) or rejecting bigotry (and losing his Republican base).

Sorun said...

"Also entertaining was watching Tommy answer a question about gay marriage."

The most important issue ever! Followed by abortion and race.

shiloh said...

No.

shiloh said...

"Hey - why is it that Titus can post stuff ..."

Brent is becoming a spamming troll, god love him.

garage mahal said...

Baldwin looked shaky and unsure of herself. She seemed incapable of countering any of the bullroar from Thompson she should have known was coming. Not a good performance at all.

Meade said...

Most interesting part of the debate to me was that, in talking about the issue of abortion, Tammy used the word "rare" as in safe, legal, and rare. That is after the DNC, in Charlotte, cut the word out of its abortion platform plank.

Chip Ahoy said...

Steve Austin said Tommy is like Floyd Gondoli. link.

" I like simple pleasures like butter in my ass and a lollypop in my mouth, that's just me. Call me crazy, call me imperfect, but, ther ..."

Command: stop
Command: erase last entry
Task: complete

So that's who you say Tommy looks like?

Yeah, I guess. Like who? What?

I forgot. Never mind. A toad, I guess.

Chip Ahoy said...

I accidentally read this:

his campaign gay-baited Baldwin

And thought of an instant joke. But it's rude, having to do with zippers and trolling, so I must protect you from its punchline,

Kansas City said...

I had assumed Tommy would win the election pretty easily (even though it would have been nice to get some new blood in the seat), but then I saw a poll with Tammy ahead. Hard to believe with recent Wisconsin elections that Tammy would win. How dothings look now?

Steve Austin said...

Chip, as you watch that link from Boogie Nights, you can just visualize Tommy with some of those lines.....

The whole scene with Floyd has that "My credentials have already been established. Forget the particulars and follow me as I've been around a long time and know what's coming next....."

I like Tommy's confidence.



ndspinelli said...

Brent, Be careful there's a deleter who gets cranky when he's been drinking. This is a place that can be cruel, but there's nothing neutral about it. It's Orwellian, Brent. All commenters are equal, but some are more equal than others. They're drifting downward and don't know what to do. They stopped the stupid word verification but like the FED they're out of options. Some race baiting posts are always good for comments. Maybe nude photos are coming??

ndspinelli said...

Remember Meade, I'm like Joe Frazier..Joe just kept coming no matter what you threw @ him. Leave my response to Brent up and I'll back off for awhile. That would be the smart thing to do anyway.

ndspinelli said...

Steve Austin, Tommy is one confident buffoon.

Titus said...

Wisconsin has two decent high school marching bands, not Texas or Indiana good but for Wisconsin decent.

They are Waukesha North and Waukesha West High School. The rest of Wisconsin's high school marching bands are piss poor. Although, believe it or not River Falls is "ok"-I don't know where they get decent designers to go up there.

So if Tammy said Wauwatosa she was incorrect.

One thing I do know is "marching performance arts".

Maybe she didn't want to say the word "Waukesha".

Titus said...

It's National Fluff day here today-someone just walked by my expensive loft dressed as a whoopie pie. There is a fluff parade just about to start. The streets are filled with fucking fluff.

Tammy Baldwin.

Tits.

Titus said...

All my mom's friends in Waunakee are republican and she never says she's a big libtard. She just listens to them and gets all their republican emails and at their breakfasts she listens to them talk about Obama being a Muzzie.

Of course someone sent her the video of Tammy dancing with Wonder Woman, my mom felt sad.

tits.

ignatzk said...

I thought it strange the way Baldwin looked down almost before she finished speaking, as if she just remembered something for her grocery list and desperately needed to write it down. She seemed a bit scared camera shy.

Tommy mentioned his wife and family several times. His message seemed to be "I'm one of you. I'm from Wisconsin."

I really struggle with the notion of Wisconsin voting for a radical like Baldwin beyond DaneCo. It's unclear what she's offering that others can relate to in their own lives.

Sorun said...

Why is Tammy Baldwin running in the first place? Is she determined to bring Madison-style liberalism to the rest of America, or does she just want a job promotion?

ndspinelli said...

I have to buy Fluff for Thanksgiving because my brother-in-law likes it on his sweet potatoes. Every year I buy a jar and then throw that shit away. Family!!!

Titus said...

My sister worked for Tommy on his computer shit and said everyone knew he had another woman. She said his wife and him live two separate lives. I respect that. That's cool.

I don't mind him. He is an ugly mofo though, poor thing. For a dyke Tammy isn't too horrible looking. Most dykes are hideous, except for the lipstick lezzies and the ones who do it part time on porn.

He will win by 12-15 points.

ndspinelli said...

Sorun, That's the Wisconsin homosexual Senate seat. Herb Kohl is a closet homosexual, so this is a step out of the closet. There are other gay pols in Madison who can step into her seat. It's like gay musical chairs.

Titus said...

Herb Kohl needs to cum out.

I am surprised he was never busted in some toilet somewhere.

Was he the most uninspiring elected official around?

He is a rich mother fucker too.

At least he "built something".

garage mahal said...

Must really suck for the macho conservative to lose to a Madison lesbian.

Titus said...

spinelli I spent a year in Madison and never saw any gay pols. I am like where the fuck are the gays?

And then you go to one of the hag pens, called bars, and it is the nastiest assortment of fags you could ever observe. They work in retail, social work, non profit, restaurants-in other words they are fucking poor and uneducated. It is completely the dregs of society and all of them are completely wasted, all of them are driving and some of them are driving back to Janesville or Columbus. And they all smoke. There was like one of each fag stereotype.

Big cities know better, the fags are segregated by type. And no intermixing-we dislike each other and don't want to know the other exists.

Fatties over here, leather down there, drags in the gutter, twinks at the cafe, muscleboys that way-and the groups shall never meet and if they do it is crusty looks all around.

rhhardin said...

Instead of the Debbie Reynolds version, Tammy.

Titus said...

Lastly, because I have to Fluff, is the largest freak group at the Madison Gay Bars are straight fat women who think they are at Studio 54-very sad.

Meade said...

Nick, I notice it is a beautiful day all over the country - even where it's raining in northern Texas and Louisiana. Why not get out and enjoy some of it?

ndspinelli said...

I'm heading to the Brewwer's game Meade. Good luck to your Reds. I hope Dusty gets religion and gets in shape, he's a good guy. I'm out a lot, I'm a walker.

Meade said...

Bring home a winner. Gotta love the Crew for playing with such heart. Not over til it's over, right?

Inga said...

Nope, missed it, darn. Too much excitement here on this blog, made me forget all about it.

Michael Haz said...

Baldwin looked weak and unrehearsed. Maybe she's starting to beleive the inaccurate polls and isn't concerned about the possibility of a loss to Thompson. Mistake.

She was caught several times looking down at notes, again demonstrating that she wasn't prepared. And the constant droning of um um um ah ah ah um ah was off-putting to say the least.

Thompson listed his experience. Baldwin didn't, perhaps because she has little to list. She has been a backbencher, a reliable vote Nancy Pelosi can count on.

Thompson looked like a senator. Baldwin looked like a school board president.

Curious George said...
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Curious George said...

Curious George said...
Well if she doesn't become the first open lesbian Senator of the United States she can always become the 34th open lesbian Alder of Madison.

carrie said...

Even my extremely liberal husband thought that Tommy did a lot better job than Tammy in the debate.

Goju said...

Titus, WIs best marching band is Pulaski High School. Macy's Parade and 2 trips to Rose Parade. All by invitation. They were rated higher than all but the elite college bands.

They were also invited to the Queen's jubilee, but raising the money was way too out of line.

Titus said...

Goju, I am not talking about a marching band that does parades.

I am talking one that does field shows.

Pulaski is not anywhere near the Waukesha teams in field shows.

Marching in a parade is completely different. And tons of high school marching bands get invited to Rose Bowl parade and Macy's parade etc-many of them not all that great.

Titus said...

Pulaski High School doesn't even compete in the Wisconsin High School Marching Band Field Competition.