January 7, 2013

Boehner: "At one point several weeks ago... the president said to me, 'We don't have a spending problem.' "

"They blame all of the fiscal woes on our health-care system."

Boehner's repeated response to that was: "Clearly we have a health-care problem, which is about to get worse with ObamaCare. But, Mr. President, we have a very serious spending problem."
[T]oward the end of the negotiations, the president became irritated and said: "I'm getting tired of hearing you say that."
And then there's Harry Reid:
"Those days after Christmas," [Boehner] explains, "I was in Ohio, and Harry's on the Senate floor calling me a dictator and all kinds of nasty things. You know, I don't lose my temper. I never do. But I was shocked at what Harry was saying about me. I came back to town. Saw Harry at the White House. And that was when that was said," he says, referring to a pointed "go [blank] yourself" addressed to Mr. Reid.
It's best, by the way, if you're going to say "Go fuck yourself" never to say it in anger.

There's lots more in that article (in the Wall Street Journal). I was interested in this little bit at the end:
[Boehner] sees debt as almost a moral failing, noting that when he grew up in a "little middle-class, blue-collar neighborhood" outside of Cincinnati, "nobody had debt. It was unheard of. I just don't do debt."
If he's not bullshitting, he's revealing a shocking lack of sophistication. Should families pay rent on apartments until they can put down the entire purchase price of a house? Should businesses expand only through the cash they have on hand? But it's the WSJ that inserts the phrase "almost a moral failing," so I shouldn't read too much into Boehner's simple-Cincinnati-guy posing. He didn't say debt is immoral. Only that he comes from a background where the norm was to follow a budget and pay your bills. How sophisticated is he now about the good use of debt as opposed to the bad? Who knows?

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politicaltragic said...

If any of that is sincere, then I feel genuinely sorry for Mr. Boehner, and for ripping into him the way I have over the past few weeks over his handling of the "negotiations" with his fellow Politburo members. If this is sincere, then this guy has no clue who he's really dealing with. He hasn't got a clue.

He's great at political maneuvering within his own party, but these guys he's supposed to be protecting us from... he would have better success--and more in common--with a speeding freight train bearing down on him as he lies tied to the track.

garage mahal said...

You mean the people who were OK with Mickey Mouse and Adolf Hitler signing it in front of them?

Never happened.

Curiously, Verify the
Recall didn't scan one petition that were collected on Democrats.

mark said...

garage mahal said...
mark said ...
You mean the people who were OK with Mickey Mouse and Adolf Hitler signing it in front of them?

Never happened.

So Thomas Annis didn't verify and sign off that Adolf Hitler lived at 66 Hell and agreed with the petition? I'm sure that Thomas would be shocked that you doubt him so. Shocked I say.

http://images.iverifytherecall.com/images/sw/sw106210.png

Crimso said...

"If he's not bullshitting, he's revealing a shocking lack of sophistication."

'A sophisticated human can become primitive. What this really means is that the human's way of life changes. Old values change, become linked to the landscape with it's plants and animals. This new existence requires a working knowledge of those multiplex and cross-linked events usually referred to as Nature. It requires a measure of respect for the inertial power within such natural systems. When a human gains this knowledge and respect, that is called "being primitive". The converse, of course, is equally true: the primitive human can become sophisticated, but not without incurring dreadful psychological damage.' Frank Herbert

Rusty said...

garage mahal said...
The *only* reason I'm ambiguous about the recall petition list is that it's got to be checked for valid signatures.

It was checked. By the people gathering the petitions, by the GAB, and by Walker's own campaign. That really only leaves one reason why all that trouble was went through.


And how many signatures were disallowed for one reason or another?

Synova said...

"It was checked. By the people gathering the petitions, by the GAB, and by Walker's own campaign. That really only leaves one reason why all that trouble was went through."

Perhaps my memory is faulty but I thought it was something closer to... "Hey, we don't have time to check these! We're not done!" and the state of Wisconsin saying, "Tough luck suckers you have until Friday."

And really... checked by the people gathering the petitions?

mark said...

Synova said...
And really... checked by the people gathering the petitions?

Hey. Mr. Annis signed each of his certified petitions under:
"I personally circulated this recall petition and personally obtained each of the signatures on this paper. I know that the signers are electors of the jurisdiction or district represented by the office holder named in this petition. I know that each person signed the paper with the full knowledge of its content on the date indicated opposite his or her name. I know their respective residences given. I support this recall petition. I am aware that falsifying this certification is punishable under S.12.13(3)(a). Wis. Stats."

So of course he knows that Adolf Hitler resides at 66 Hell. And if he didn't then OBVIOUSLY the Democrats will look to enforce S.12.13(3)(a) to make sure bad things like faking recall petitions to get rid of Republicans never happens again.

Brian Brown said...

garage mahal said...
Bullshit

Here is an example. In a thread you commented on


Except there was no example.

The link from this blog returned a "page not found"

You realize you're a silly liar, right?

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