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You're getting tiresome, Althouse.Yeah, my self-interest is stupid.Hell I've been told that since the first day I stepped on campus as a redneck kid from farming country in central Illinois.Taunt to your heart's content. Enjoy yourself.
The constitution was framed to bring the blessings of liberty to ourselves, and our posterity.Why bring in more people who are not ourselves, and will not (generally) have any posterity either.
I have learned to stop reading anything in the news that begins Obama will....
Yes Republicans! Abandon your principles! Otherwise you might look stupid.
For a long time, Althouse, I tried to find a way to appease this taunting.You might find it odd, but it was Myrna, and my closest friend, a gay man from NYC, who convinced me to chuck it and stop trying.
My gay friend is still trying to get me to be involved in men's rights politics.I've refused mostly.He wants me to appear in a documentary with him to be filmed by a Dutch videographer. Haven't decided whether I'll do it.
As a Republican response, this sounds the right note:Alex Conant, press secretary for Sen. Marco Rubio, one of the Republicans who announced the Senate framework Monday, told BuzzFeed shortly after publication of this story Monday night, "White House officials have talked to BuzzFeed more than they've talked to Marco Rubio about what they plan to say tomorrow."
Obama doesn't want to sign any bill that might get republican support, however minimal. This is a poison pill to kill reform so that it can become an issue in 2014.The most transparent administration in U.S. history.
Homosexual behavior is a detriment to society and is a net negative.It is the cause of 80% of all child rape and molestation. It should not be encouraged in law, and this does so.Enjoy the decline!
Rebubs should offer a bill that requires the govt to list, on the internet, the names of the amnesty people, the number of years they have been here, the amount of taxes they have paid since they have been here and the amount of taxes they have paid to become eligible for the amnesty.
Althouse taunts: That's your cue, Republicans, to say something stupid. He's roping you in. Come on. You can't resist!Senators Championing Immigration Reform Have No Answers For LGBT Immigrants?
@Althouse. They don't need to. You already did.
Well, it is a stupid think to care about from either side, and yes it is clearly a political ploy. The real disaster they should be raving about is the combination of immigration reform and Obamacare, he doesn't want that connection being brought up. Bend over law-abiding citizens. Everything you've been told your entire life is a lie. Crime does pay. It's the new purpose of government, and we have the best people for the job already in place. Winning!
Perhaps I'm stating the obvious but I don't follow what same sex couples and immigration have to do with one another. It's like saying I'm including wiffle balls in my plan for eating pancakes.
This is oddly tone-deaf for Obama. Despite the desperate attempts of blue media,immigration reform is neither popular nor a priority with Joe and Jill Six-Pack. Quite the opposite.Making it about gays in any way will also turn off a shitload of Hispanics as well.
Meanwhile, Althouse, your self-interest, and that of your son, are Big Fucking Deals!And, you get to constantly promote your and your son's self-interests as important fucking causes.Great scam you've got going. You've prevailed there. So, once again, enjoy the taunting.
Be careful Republicans, be super careful and don't say something the super sophisticate Althousians can brand stupid, because there's nothing worse than being branded stupid by the beautiful ones, why it's worse, far worse than societal suicide.
Expect a marked improvement in the quality of U.S. softball teams.
Repubs should also offer a bill that says 100% of tax revenue from the illegal amnesty applicants be applied to the country's humongous debt.Repubs should also require the amnesty bill calculate the projected added tax revenue from these illegal amnesty applicants and the govt must issue an annual report to track the actual receipts vs. the projected in the amnsety bill.
Homosexuality is so passe these days. The real question is whether our immigration laws will pay decent respect to the vibrant tradition of polygamy outside the Western world.
If Althouse thinks it is important data, the Repubs could ask that the report split out the tex receipts into two categories :gay couples vs. non-gay couples.
Get over it, righties. You lost this one.It's a minor matter in the larger scheme of politics.Let it go. It's a trap.
Get on with your lives.Leave the gays alone.It doesn't matter.
I wonder how many people in Mexico are planning a little trip north as soon as possible. Legal status, free food, discount housing, EBT cards, free K-12, discounted college for half the price that U.S. citizen pay, and free health care. We coming to America...Today!
Re: AJ Lynch:Repubs should also offer a bill that says 100% of tax revenue from the illegal amnesty applicants be applied to the country's humongous debt.I wouldn't go quite that far, but I think illegal immigrants who are getting in under this amnesty should (a) have to pay a hefty fine on the front end to purchase forgiveness for their offense, and (b) pay a continuing levy of, say, between 2% and 5% of gross income (scaling with income levels) for the next 10 years. I would have wanted it to scale according to how long they had been in the US, but unfortunately, people who cheat to get into the US are not likely to tell the truth about how long they have been here.
Obama doesn't write law, the House does.He sits there and goes, yes, no, do my homework, and that's all. He's actually mostly insignificant.Republicans, write into the legislation that all newly created citizens from the great land of Mexico get a free Republiphone AND a birthday Republicake. Throw in a Republiflatscreen for good measure. You dumbasses don't know how to spend other peoples' money.
"Let it go."Hey, you brought it up. Are you just a lefty agitator or what?
You've got your stuff, Althouse.Thanks for the advice, but, since you are utterly hostile to my self-interest, excuse me if I don't give a damned about it.
I have no interest in a Republican Party that doesn't represent my interests.So, why should I give a fuck about this shit you're dragging out, Althouse?I'm just as hostile to the Republicans as I am to the Dems.Maybe moreso.
Who gives a shit? Is that a stupid thing to say? Are we excluding single gays? What countries have legal same sex marriage? Are there any in the Western Hemisphere? Any Hispanic countries? If not, it's all bullshit. Two gays entering the country that are a "couple" are the same as two gays that don't know each other.
You've been working this scam for so long, Althouse, that you've forgotten even why you're doing it.Sorta like Jimmy Hoffa imagining that he was still a dock worker when he was really ripping off the union to buy luxuries and play golf at the country club.
No complaints here.The man campaigned on gay immigration and gun control every day for four years, and now he's delivering on what he promised.
Are we to believe becoming the First Lesbian President actually saved his Administration?Good luck on that one.Ann Althouse said...Get over it, righties. You lost this one.No, ma'am, you just want to believe all the polls coming out of Gotham.Step away from the Ivory Tower for a while. You'll be surprised.
Get on with your lives.Leave the gays alone.It doesn't matter.If it doesn't matter, why do you bring it up. Do you have a clue what you're saying? Early onset Alzheimer's?
90% of the immigrant economy is underground, so any ideas about charging them for anything is only going to hit the stupidly honest ones. Like gun control, and paying taxes, etc., it's only the suckers that play who pay, and are effected. The good thing for Dems is that voting has no rules, no I.D.. And you get a lot of Hispanic votes by tending the garden of government graft and cheating. Even those that vote legally, appreciate you taking care of the ones who can't, and they are gonna support those who support that corrupt system.
This will be a big help to the many same sex married couples in Canada and the Netherlands who wish to immigrate to America. I don't think there are many gay married couples in Mexico. This will, however, offer another convenient loophole for those who wish to game our immigration laws.
The Conflating of categories is alive and well in every issue of the day. But will centaurs be given the dignity they deserve from the mean old GOP? Unicorns are easy to accept now, but centaurs still need affirmative action to achieve full horse-manhood. The Neanderthal breeding project may become the GOP's hardest test to pass. They already come up short, so to speak, in competition for the prized white women against full grown centaurs.How will they ever compete with Neanderthals as the planet's alpha men?
At the very least, this will generate some movie remakes.
It is interesting the contempt you exhibit for the majority of the people who post here. Nice.
What will Lena and Tina say?
Shit, as I said, this taunting that Althouse is engaging in started the moment I walked onto campus at the University of Illinois as a 16 year old kid.Same shit. The self-interest of a dumb fucking redneck kid from farm country and his family is stupid. My family was assumed to be KKK. It was assumed that I hated and persecuted gays. My family was supposed to be rich and powerful and the cause of everything wrong with the world.The bullshit from university professors hasn't changed a bit in 45 years. Same old shit. I'm glad I've gotten away from that environment. I've returned for contract jobs from time to time. It's a little better in the IT and multimedia biz, because people there have a real work to do.In the humanities, and, obviously, in the professional schools, it's the same old pit of shit.
AJ Lynch said...Rebubs should offer a bill that requires the govt to list, on the internet, the names of the amnesty people, the number of years they have been here, the amount of taxes they have paid since they have been here and the amount of taxes they have paid to become eligible for the amnesty.Plus the name of the person or organization providing a necessary affidavit of support, and establish a "private attorney general" right of action to recover from the signer any public expenditures not reimbursed.
Althouse: "Leave the gays alone."But what will I do with my Friday nights, if I can't go fag-huntin' with cousin Cooter? How else will we vent our frustrations, if we can't kidnap and murder the occasional homosexual?You've got us pegged, Althouse. It's not the fact that they're talking about letting millions of criminals have citizenship that bothers us; or the fact that 75% of the criminals will vote Democrat. No, the real hangup for us is the fact that 2% of these new citizens will be homosexual.Trolling your own site again. You must be bored. To be honest, I'm a little bored too. Maybe I should go shit on someone who's supported me for years and see if it makes me feel better.
Shameful. Obama's half-measures are no way to overcome decades of discrimination.To be truly fair we must immediately limit immigration law to permit only these same-sex couples. It's obviously the only way to rectify this historical injustice. Who but a stinkin' Republican would oppose such a thing?
Ann Althouse said...Get over it, righties. You lost this one.It's a minor matter in the larger scheme of politics.Let it go. It's a trap.Wherein, Althouse channels "mean Titus."
It is interesting the contempt you exhibit for the majority of the people who post here. Nice.I was thinking it must be that time of the month. Then I remmebered age, hot flashes and the moodiness of the big "M" I suppose.
Re: William:This will be a big help to the many same sex married couples in Canada and the Netherlands who wish to immigrate to America. I don't think there are many gay married couples in Mexico.That may be the case, but consider the relative position of homosexual couples in Canada and the Netherlands versus homosexual couples in Mexico. Maybe my national stereotypes are just completely off base, but I'd think that entirely apart from economics, homosexuals in Mexico would find the US much more congenial than their fatherland. More generally, I think people who face active oppression (stoning, lynching, etc.) for their sexuality -- usually homosexuality -- sometimes seek refuge in the United States.
LOL. Althouse trolls her own blog.It's a trap. Don't fall for it.
Some of her retorts sound a little like Hat-Noooo, couldn't be.
I'd wait and let Obama, and Obama alone, fill-in the details about immigration and same-sex "couples" before I'd send-up any white flag.And there are substantial details that Obama needs to fill-in.
Ya know, Abortion-loving Easy Annie A., I know you and your fellow lefties legal "scholars" like to insult Chief Justice Burger's intelligence, but you'd best remember his quote:"To hold that the act of homosexual sodomy is somehow protected as a fundamental right would be to cast aside millennia of moral teaching."And remember this---history shows that every period when depraved buggery is "celebrated" is immediately followed by a reckoning whereas those moral-less, soulless pigs and their enablers are viciously punished.Remember that when you and your "son" "celebrate" his "marriage."Your reckoning is closer than you think.
Wherein, Althouse channels "mean Titus."She recently revealed an intimate detail of her physiognomy. Soon she'll be describing her stools.
Actually I think she already described her stools. I believe it's called the "Swopper".
Althouse, they fall for it every time. Every single time. Dems don't have to lift a finger to make them look like The Stupid Party. They make it too easy.
Remember that when you and your "son" "celebrate" his "marriage."Your reckoning is closer than you think.Is that a death threat from the fuming dickless wonder?
For those who find this some kind of outrage, you might want to ask yourself, why do we let spouses count at all? Really think about it. What purpose does it serve to consider immigration law in terms of spousal and family units as opposed to only individuals?If you can figure out an answer to that question, ask yourself if any part of your answer might apply to same-sex couples as well.
Yea, I thought Andy was too good to be true. Good one Althouse. You really got us.
Soon she'll be describing her stools.Yeesh! She should just stick with her Lehrstule.
Leave the gays alone.At least for me, it's not about leaving gays alone. It's about not expanding entitlements to a group that have nothing to do with them.The only argument I've heard, is that "It's not fair," because childless heterosexual couples get a free ride.I say, rewrite the stupid laws, then, and make it so those who reproduce get the benefits.
Inga, I've got no fucking interest or stake in whether the Republican Party lives or dies.
If it doesn't matter, why do you bring it up. Do you have a clue what you're saying? Early onset Alzheimer's? I think her point is rather obvious. O will raise issues designed to get R's to say stupid things. R's oblige and John Stewart has material for a week. Moderates are scandalized. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.Althouse does the same thing to lefties here. She posts about Iran developing rocket technology. Knee-jerk lefty implies it's cultural insensitivity to not want Iran to get nukes. Moderates are appalled. As a puppeteer herself, Ann knows when strings are being pulled. Your choice whether to play along. Of course, she also has another motive. She is trying to influence the content of her commentariat in a free-speech friendly way, which is no easy task.
Re: Inga:Althouse, they fall for it every time. Every single time. Dems don't have to lift a finger to make them look like The Stupid Party. They make it too easy.What's bizarre to me is how somehow standing in opposition to buggery is now "Stupid." It has nothing to do with intelligence at all, and it's a real coup for Liberals/Progressives that they've managed to pervert a question about the proper public expression of sexuality in civilised society into a question of intelligence.Unless one simply means that it's stupid because celebration of homosexuality is so completely entrenched in present-day American society that it will be another age before the worm turns once more and all the O tempora, O mores! is therefore a wasted effort. But liberals were crying "stupid" well before the collapse of traditional sexual mores.
@Palladian:No, it is not a threat. I will neither lift a hand in violence here nor encourage others to do so.But I'm quite good at reading the tea leaves of history. History is not a straight line, but a series of circles.Homosexuality is just another circle.
I didn't know illegal-alien same-sex couples were an issue.
Yea, I thought Andy was too good to be true. Good one Althouse. You really got us.Unfortunately Andy R. is a real person.
Whores attempts: But I'm quite good at reading the tea leaves of history. History is not a straight line, but a series of circles.Yes, but circles don't cross lines. Like you do.
Balfegor, how is it less than stupid to make ones own party look so incredibly mean spirited and bigoted to deny a same sex couple the same civil rights and immigration benefits of a heterosexual couple?Why do Republicans want to lose?
This discussion could perhaps teach me why I don't understand much political discourse, if I were to study it.
Obama isn't interested in doing anything productive or good. Hence, this gratuitous and pointless gesture. He knows it will please his gay rights issues voters, and at the same time jeopardize the bipartisan compromise and make the Republicans look like mean old bastards.It's all about ginning up grievances and making Democrats look good.
It is a trap, but not the one Ann thinks.Bark got ten million fewer votes than he did in '08 and Romney got fewer than McCain. There are are a buttload of conservatives/moderates who no longer believe that anyone in the two parties represent their interests. As with "sensible gun control" the trick is to get Republicans to go along with things that are against the beliefs of their base.
AlanKH wrote: I didn't know illegal-alien same-sex couples were an issue.Exactly. And Obama will be able to say the same thing.The Republicans won't.
Inga: The point of my "stupid" comment at 10:35 was that Obama doesn't make laws. Stop enabling him.
That was too easy, Ann.
LOL. Althouse trolls her own blog.It's a trap. Don't fall for it.Too late! VBG!
Every so often Professor Oz give you a peek behind the curtain.You would think that even a trained seal would get the picture when someone clubs them.But it is not to be.
Leave the gays alone.When are they going to leave me the fuck alone?
No, it is not a threat. I will neither lift a hand in violence here nor encourage others to do so.Tick tick boom.
"Leave the gays alone.""Immigration reform" that includes nothing with respect to LGBTQI does just that. Instead of a version of "don't ask, don't tell," it should be "don't care" (assuming this supposed "immigration reform" is a good idea to begin with).
Althouse sez: "Get on with your lives.Leave the [insert prog issue] alone.It doesn't matter."And this is why I am no longer going to bother voting.The Constitution is dead as a doornail. And now you want me to pay for millions upon millions of illegals' free stuff.And apparently I am stupid for being concerned that I'm screwed. Oh well.
I think they should put a premium on families, including all the wives and the household slaves.
Re: Inga:Balfegor, how is it less than stupid to make ones own party look so incredibly mean spirited and bigoted to deny a same sex couple the same civil rights and immigration benefits of a heterosexual couple?You're writing from a perspective that evidently believes that same-sex partnerships ought to be on equal footing with heterosexual partnerships -- that they are equivalent. That's certainly not true of everyone around the world, and probably isn't even true of a majority in the US yet. It's only in the past few years that gay marriage advocates have started winning even when the people are allowed to vote, and even then they've lost the vote in a lot of cases. It's not at all mean-spirited or bigoted to treat different things differently. You need to see things from other peoples' perspectives sometime.
If I get a good job with gold-plated health insurance out of college, and my boyhood friend gets no job and cancer, can I marry him and make him a dependent on my health plan?It's same-sex marriage, after all, not gay marriage.And wait for all the girlhood friends to start marrying, just for the cachet. Nope, no ill effects on the institution of marriage will result, none at all.
Inga said... Balfegor, how is it less than stupid to make ones own party look so incredibly mean spirited and bigoted to deny a same sex couple the same civil rightsMarriage is not a "civil right" you silly, vapid woman.
"For those who find this some kind of outrage, you might want to ask yourself, why do we let spouses count at all? Really think about it. What purpose does it serve to consider immigration law in terms of spousal and family units as opposed to only individuals?"You don't want to break up a mother and a father. That was why. I use past tense. Now it is just a goodie bag of benefits, with no public policy value around the idea. Although when I sit in foster care review meetings, we still talk about of a paternal abandonment and the need for a male role model is a child's life. Marriage public policy is joke, isn't. we move farther and farther away from recognizing a child's rights and needs, to cater to a well finance special interest group. Obama is just giving them, what they paid for.
This is good because I know the Hispanic, Asian, and Arab (largely Muslim) immigrants here were really worried about this issue. I'm sure Obama will be sending direct mailers about this issue out to these groups momentarily.Heh.Of course it's a trap.
Get over it, righties. You lost this one. It's a minor matter in the larger scheme of politics. Let it go. It's a trap.It's ironic that it was our hostess who made the post about this in the first place, and no one even brought the subject up until she did. It's a trap you've tried to set.I get the idea that our hostess has a bit of a sadistic side in her, like the little kid frying ants with his magnifying glass.I would have expected much better from a law professor. Immature, to say the least.
Re: bardseyeview:Nope, no ill effects on the institution of marriage will result, none at all.Do you really think there's going to be more than a handful of people who would do that, even at death's door? Really? I don't think there's a whole lot of men who'd be willing to play gay for money. I think a lot of people would, quite literally, sooner die than do so.I expect that after an initial surge of enthusiasm, the number of gay and lesbian married couples is going to be quite negligible. And I think we've seen a pattern more or less like that in the handful of states that have legalised gay marriage. It's just not that popular. And while its media impact may be outsized, its practical impact is negligible.
I get the idea that our hostess has a bit of a sadistic side in her, like the little kid frying ants with his magnifying glass.I've said here a few times that when the topic of gay's comes up, Ann goes completely bonkers.That post where she was trying to use snippets from the Bible was an all time epic example of this phenomena.
Althouse, they fall for it every time. Every single time. Dems don't have to lift a finger to make them look like The Stupid Party. They make it too easy.And in comes Inga with another vapid comment, since she has some difficulty saying anything intelligent on her own.Who fell for what, Inga? Who brought up the subject? No one (other than whoresoftheinternet) even made a point of this subject OTHER THAN PROF ALTHOUSE.God I'm so sick of this fake outrage bullshit.
Sure, Mr. President, we will swap same-sex immigration for a 10-year ban on receiving welfare benefits. See, we can compromise just as well as you can!BTW, Romney did get more votes than McCain.
Inga said... Althouse, they fall for it every time. Every single time. Dems don't have to lift a finger to make them look like The Stupid Party. They make it too easy30, not 3, not 13, states including those bastions of conservatism California and Maine, have voted against gay marriage.You silly, vapid troll.
Renee wrote, You don't want to break up a mother and a father. That was why. Exactly. One of my wife's best friends from college and her partner are parents an adopted child. A good friend of mine and his husband are dedicated foster parents.Stability, support, and care.
Inga continues to pretenct that the Democratic Party gives a shit about gays, women or any other American, or immigrant for that matter. For them it's all about building the ideal left wing, dystopci society where the privileged few lord over the rest of us. Democrats don't give a shit about gays or anything else except being in power. The real stupidity is the people who fall for this crap and lose their freedom, and rights.
Jay," Recognized federal civil rights law in the United States is grounded in the U.S. Constitution as interpreted by the Supreme Court. By this standard, marriage has long been established as a civil right.The operative constitutional text is section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment, which was ratified in 1868. The relevant passages read as follows:No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.The U.S. Supreme Court first applied this standard to marriage in Loving v. Virginia (1967), where it struck down a Virginia law banning interracial marriage. As Chief Justice Earl Warren wrote for the majority:The freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men ...To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discriminations. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.While the U.S. Supreme Court has not yet ruled on same-sex marriage, it is unlikely that it would overturn the foundational premise that marriage is a civil right. Lower courts, even when relying on disparate state-level constitutional language, have consistently acknowledged the right to marry. Legal arguments for excepting same-sex marriage from the definition of marriage as a civil right have rested, instead, on the argument that the state has a compelling interest in restricting same-sex marriage that justifies limiting the right to marry (an argument that was also used to justify restrictions on interracial marriage), and/or that laws permitting civil unions provide a substantially equivalent standard to marriage that satisfies equal protection standards."Tom Head-----------------------------You make it too easy for me to make YOU look like a member of the stupid party.
O will raise issues designed to get R's to say stupid things. R's oblige and John Stewart has material for a week. Moderates are scandalized. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.I'm not sure I believe this. One R MIGHT say something. The rest will condemn the one. The media and Jon Stewart will concentrate on the one, extrapolate that to all of the others, and what the others actually said will be ignored. That's more of a realistic scenario; that's what happened in the election.That being said, it wouldn't matter if NO ONE said anything; just look at what that dingbat Inga said, even though no one said anything yet.We can't win at all. What pisses me off is that the good professor seems to like rubbing it in when it comes to this subject.Like I said, I'm tired of the phone outrage.
I remember this brand of rhetoric from a nigger I got into a fight with way back in middle school.He threw one punch that did very little damage, but started declaring "You lost! Give up!" as may times and as loudly as he could. He even kept screaming it when I wrestled him to the ground and started choking him. Then he shut up to conserve air.It's a tactic from those absolutely terrified of retribution who know how weak, womanish, and pusillanimous they are: make a minor dent, then try desperately to convince the other side to stop fighting by convincing the crowd and his opponent not to fight back by pretending the fight was already over. Easy Annie A., the abortion-lover, and her fag-loving cohorts are merely telegraphing their extreme insecurity and fear at the retribution from people who oppose them. They know they live in a house of glass, and want desperately to prevent the very little it would take to make it all come crashing down.Sort of like when the baby-killers scream that "Roe v. Wade is permanent law!" to high heaven. If it's all over...you wouldn't be telling us to stop fighting. Because if it were really all over, our actions wouldn't matter.
(When I wrote "here," I was referring specifically to where I live.)
Things that Althouse despises but usually manages to hide:Religion (especailly Catholics)Fat peopleMost of her commentorsVeteransTraditional valuesEvery once in a while the mask slips.
The armchair psychologist in me wants to project that Althouse is broadly sympathetic with conservative values, but cannot countenance allying with what she considers unsavory components of the conservative coalition. But the same can easily be said of the Democratic alliance. Extrema exist on both ends of the political spectra and people caught in the middle need to be wary of them without being accused of being them.
Now would be a good time for Obama to lead from behind. Unfortunately, I'm not sure his ego can handle Congress coming up with a plan on their own. He will sabotage this effort.
@Inga:So Inga: do you still support President Obama arresting Nakoula Nakoula for making a movie, even though President Obama knew at the time the movie had not caused the riots?
Whoresoftheinternbet, you might try being less obvious in your mobying.
Freeman, He's not a Moby, he's for real, look at is website which has been in existence for a few years. If he were a Moby he sure went to great lengths to keep up appearances.
@Freeman Hunt:You should check out my website if you think I'm joking around or mobying.Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, girl.
The elitist professor can pretend to share tradional values until it impinges on something important to her....then she shows her true colors....that of an elitist left wing professor.Those who think she is a centrist are fooling yourselves. Or at least she is fooling you.Enjoy the show but don't fool yourself. Just sayn'
@Inga the lying Obama whore:Still waiting for your answer, Obama whore.....
Perhaps Althouse has been having some family troubles. Not getting along too well with that fabulous son of yours? Scoring some brownie points? (note, not boy scout points, at least not yet)Whatever. Leech on society law professor uses her blog to feel smug and morally superior. Whatever happened to "cruel neutrality"? Blood really is thicker than scholarly ink eh? How tribal of you.As to the waves of rainbow immigrants, I say why not. At least they won't be having any anchor babies. Of all the problems I identify with this toothless amnesty program, the fact that Jose and Jos B might be part of it instead of Jose and Maria, doesn't make the top 1000.
Also, a respect for the rule of law, insofar as it means respecting how laws are made and who makes them under the Constitution, is the mark of a true bipartisan. When those ideals are abridged or usurped, it's a free people's duty to oppose that, even if it means reverting to state's rights approach.
Note:By this standard, marriage has long been established as a civil right.Then: The U.S. Supreme Court first applied this standard to marriage in Loving v. Virginia (1967), Yes Inky, we can't make your level of stupid up.PS, stupid shit: the people who founded America did not believe the Supreme Court should just make shit up out of whole cloth.Example:It is a very dangerous doctrine indeed to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions, and one that would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy.” -Thomas JeffersonBut don't worry, you just carry on pretending otherwise. Oh, and gay marriage is like super duper popular too.Especially with "hispanics"Idiot.
The correct answer for the House is:We look forward to working with Senator Reid and the President on this important piece of legislation that has passed through the Senate.
It's people like Inga the Lying Obama Whore and Easy Annie A. the Abortion-lover, that make me think we should trick them on immigration:Be all for opening the immigration flood gates from the Muslim countries. When gay districts in major cities are in flames (ha!) and women walk around fully in head to toe garb, are not allowed to work or speak in public-----Well, sweet revenge....
The correct answer for the House is:We look forward to working with Senator Reid and the President on this important piece of legislation that has passed through the Senate.And that's probably what the answer will be. However, it won't matter, because people like our hostess and Inga have their minds made up about our "stupidity".
Judging from the comments I think the hispanic outreach program is off to a fabulous start!
It's a tea-bag two-fer: Gay hate plus racism all in one neat package. You can just see Speaker Boner upping his ration to three packs of Camel Straights per day.
"Inga continues to pretenct that the Democratic Party gives a shit about gays, women or any other American, or immigrant for that matter. For them it's all about building the ideal left wing, dystopci society where the privileged few lord over the rest of us. Democrats don't give a shit about gays or anything else except being in power. The real stupidity is the people who fall for this crap and lose their freedom, and rights."Talk about vapidity!Fer Christ's sake look at the corporate control over the Republican Party, which relies heavily on a few huge contributors who pay to play. The Democrats aren't immune, but it is ridiculous to say that they don't care about people. Marriage is a civil right. We are supposed to strive for equal protection under the law, and despite Scalia's ranting, the understanding of who is entitled to equal protections has in fact changed over time. Like any other prior civil rights moveoment, it is happening despite those who try desperately to hold onto their special status. If you don't believe in the special treatment you receive in a marriage, don't freaking get married. Oh, and tell all of your stay-at-home wives that they are not entitled to social security and Medicare because they didn't pay in. Including your grandmothers, you hypocrites.Get over it.
Baron Zemo said...Every so often Professor Oz give you a peek behind the curtain.You would think that even a trained seal would get the picture when someone clubs them.But it is not to be.Hmmm, the Baron's sounding an awful lot like the Disrespectful Jerk banished to the nether regions.And he jumped for the mackerel no more than I did.
Illegal immigration, guns, and same sex marriage are three issues that do not follow party linesThe most anti- illegals, anti-gay marriage people I know are working class lefties. (Union workers and others is economically distressed areas)
What you midwest racist teabaggers forget is that after a couple generations, hispanics will be a huge republican voting bloc. GW Bush knew this and was elected twice because he embraced hard working brown people by speaking their language.
Can America continue to indefinitely import Third Worlders by the million without becoming a Third World country itself?
Judging from the comments I think the hispanic outreach program is off to a fabulous start!And here's garage to completely prove my point.
lawyapalooza said... Fer Christ's sake look at the corporate control over the Republican Party, which relies heavily on a few huge contributors who pay to playWhat a silly, full of shit thing to say.Here are some headlines from the last election:Obama Grows More Reliant on Big-Money ContributorsAnd:Democratic Convention Relied On Corporate Donations, Despite PledgeHow dumb are you, exactly?
The Democrats aren't immune, but it is ridiculous to say that they don't care about people. There is no proof, anywhwere at all, to suggest Democrats "care about people"
You make it too easy for me to make YOU look like a member of the stupid party.The nuance of leftist constitutional thinking is simply beyond me. CA Proposition 187 was deemed unconstitutional because it denied state benefits to illegals, yet I have recently learned illegals can't get Federal welfare benefits, and can only get foodstamps if they have a US citizen (read, anchor baby) in the household.
The Second Battle Of The Pink Alamo The Battle Of The Second Pink Alamo was revisted today by historical re-enactors featuring Commander Althaus and her deputy, She Wolf, Bonga Bonga Inga. After the Gay Wars were lost at the Alamo, by The Forces For Tight Bowels, led by Fortissimo Tommy, a reactionary, guerilla force(Althaus) was formed to retake the Alamo and paint it pink. Here follows the tale of that battle. Gathered before the Alamo, cradle of freedom, was Supreme Commander Althaus and her remnants of the Gay Brigade. Althaus directed sub-commandante Bonga Bonga Inga to take her soldiers and paint the Alamo pink. But, suddenly appearing on the parapet of the Alamo was Fortissimo Tommy, standing alone. Althaus; Take one hundred gay dragoons and kill that Tommy.She Wolf Bonga; Dragoons, march forth and destroy that bigot. And so a battle followed and all the dragoons were killed.Tommy; You loose assholes, you can't paint the Alamo pink.Althaus; Holy Shit, She Wolf Inga, send forth all the forces, and this time you'll lead them Bonga Bonga to assure victory......or die trying. Sure enough, after much firing of the evil Armalite 15's and the glorious Autovat, things got quite, and emerging from the fog of battle was a pink smeared She Wolf.She Wolf; Pink lady Althaus, IT'S A TRAP.Althaus;WHAT, What do you mean IT'S A TRAP????? She Wolf; There's two of them.
That's your cue, Republicans, to say something stupidNo, there's no gay agenda, political or otherwise. Just ask Althouse.
If this is an effort the purge the right-wing gay-haters, an excellent opening shot. Well done, Althouse. This blog would really be better without Shouting Thomas, whores and their ilk. Be gone bigots!and oh FUCK YOU WINGERS!!!
Oh, and tell all of your stay-at-home wives that they are not entitled to social security and Medicare because they didn't pay in.Oh, the mendacity!
Notice that the anger by the right-leaning commenters here (with one exception) has NOTHING to do with gays. It's all been aimed at the whole idea of unfettered immigration.Yet when you read the lefties' comments (Inga, garage, howard, and others), you can tell they didn't hear a single word. They've got a caricature about the right, and no amount of argument is going to change it.As an aside - no, I'm not going to "deal" with it. What I'm going to do is this: make as little money as possible, give only to charities that help dogs (no people), and take care of my own people first. Let everybody in for all I care, but you won't be doing it with my help.
get over itNo I won't! I want to oppress people to make myself feel better for being an utter loser in life!!!!
I see Alex is off his lithium again.
lawyapalooza said...The Democrats aren't immune, but it is ridiculous to say that they don't care about people. Of course, that's why they'd rather see them live in comfortable poverty than be successful.Marriage is a civil right.It is?Then I should be able to marry my sister.And Quasy Dog.
Ann, what an UGLY post.Does your son love you now that you have baited those meanyheads who don't agree with his lifestyle?Cruel neutrality indeed.This is another of those situations, like last night, where even when reasonable people are inclined to be in agreement with a policy position you prefer, your condescension and Andy level douchefulness makes people reconsider.Ugly, I say.
Wow, today is full of trolls. I know my comment was flippant, out of sadness, because you know I'm big on natural kin support systems. What if you're single, can you get a "plus one"? Maybe bring over a sibling, or a parent?
Give her a break...she couldn't think her way through this if she had to.Knee Jerk..."It's how I FEEL!"
I used to read Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs, 2004 or so, about the same time I started reading Alhouse. He was getting humongous traffic in those days, masquerading as a conservative.This post reminded me of that.
Oh, well, sometimes I have to remind myself that, as much as this shit has dogged me throughout my life, it's over for me.I'm semi-retired. I continue to work as a professional musician and church musician.My professors and TAs started taunting me with this shit, just like Althouse, from the moment I stepped on campus of the University of Illinois in 1966. Nothing new. It seems to be a built-in, reflexive madness of the professoriate.Probably, it's time to just forget it and ignore it.
@Alex:lol, fag-lover. Calling the current situation "fag oppression" is hilarious in it's double think.I can't wait for the next 100 years, when you fag-lovers come to see, and, more importantly, feel, what true oppression is like.24/7 baby.Enjoy the decline! Forward, comrades!
Here's an interesting question:Given this bitter and relentless browbeating that a young hetero white man is going to endure at the University of Wisconsin from Althouse and her colleagues, would you send your son there?I could see two ways of looking at this.On the one hand, it's sort of like "The Girl Named Sue." Enduring this gauntlet would certainly toughen him up if he survived it.On the other hand, maybe it's better to just skip it and get a tech certificate and a job in the trades.
Obama doesn't want immigration reform, he wants to be able to talk about those horrible old Republicans and how racist they are.Obama will do everything in his power to fuck everything up (a simple task, he is the Midas of turning things to shit), and will be aided and abetted by the media and stupid liberal academics like Althouse.Meanwhile unemployment continues to be historically bad, and debt continues to pile up. I hope all you retarded Boomers who inflicted this on my generation live long enough to personally be affected by the mess you made.
You make it too easy for me to make YOU look like a member of the stupid party.Love it. Inga quotes several paragraphs of Tom Head and then claimes she made somebody look stupid. Hahahahahaha!It appears all Inga cares about is Democrats winning. I've yet to see her to claim to care about any real people or issues other than what helps Democrats win. Commitment to values. That's what I love about her.
Does this mean Obama is cutting off all visas and immigration from Muslim countries?
DADvocate, If I didn't care about you folks I would just ignore you. The health and diet tips/links alone, that I provide here on Althouse should prove I care about y'all.I could just encourage you folks to eat twinkies and drink Coke.
Oh, and tell all of your stay-at-home wives that they are not entitled to social security and Medicare because they didn't pay in."Oh, the mendacity!"It is a rather simple truth. Most people who have drawn Social Security and Medicare did not pay in enough to cover their costs. That is wholly true for people who never earned income in their lives, aka: stay-at-home mothers. The only way these folks qualify for such benefits is through marriage to someone who did have earned income. Even if that earned income was also not close enough to pay his own costs, let alone those for his widow.You really want to start talking about separating marriage from government protections just so (God forbid) gays can't get married? Then start in your own family and disavow those protections. Yep. Didn't think so.
If we wanted advice on diet from a stupid fat assed ugly old woman, we would listen to Michelle Obama.
If I didn't care about you folks I would just ignore you.You care. Coulda fooled me. Guess I've missed ALL your health and diet tips. I would read those if I saw one. Never know where you'll pick up a good tidbit of information.
lawyapalooza said... Most people who have drawn Social Security and Medicare did not pay in enough to cover their Which is why I favor ending both of those programs.Today.
My diet tip to a key member of the stupid party PMJ, eat shit and die:)
Same sex couple immigrants do not appear in this Pew poll of concerns! http://www.people-press.org/2013/01/24/deficit-reduction-rises-on-publics-agenda-for-obamas-second-term/
DADvocate, you never read any blog posts Althouse posts a couple times a week, that deal with diet and obesity? I always comment extensively on those threads.
That is wholly true for people who never earned income in their lives, aka: stay-at-home mothers. I'd wager that the average stay-at-home mom earns a different sort of "income" and reaps exactly the kinds of rewards that you never will. Without actually knowing much about you, I'd guess that you're just jealous.
@Lawyerpalloza: Inveigh away at the childless straight equivalents to gay marriage all you want, but leave the good mothers the fuck alone!
I was reading about personality type, then I came back here and read all the comments and thought, "Why on earth would this post make people angry? I don't get it." Then I remembered that my personality type predicts this reaction.Maybe that ol' Myers-Briggs has something to it.
That is wholly true for people who never earned income in their lives, aka: stay-at-home mothersWhy don't you tell us how many stay at home mothers there are in America. How many have never, ever worked at all, and will be collecting social security.Thanks in advance.
The issue of homosexual and other dysfunctional behaviors is secondary until it reaches some critical mass in a population. The issue of normalizing homosexual and other dysfunctional behaviors is primary. A population cannot afford to promote behaviors which sabotage evolutionary fitness.That said, generational genocide (i.e. elective abortion) poses the greater threat to evolutionary fitness. It is the marginalization of human life for purposes of preserving material, physical, and social standing.Whether America survives under the principles espoused in our national charter and Constitution is questionable, especially with the influx of immigrants who have different priorities.Whether the immigrants have been conclusively corrupted by a selective rule of law, redistributive and retributive change, and other liberal policies, is uncertain.What we do know is that Hispanics have an a priori superior comprehension of reality, at least with respect to evolutionary fitness, and that our nation will survive its brush with voluntary genocide, if not with the same character.
edutcher I am not jumping at the mackerel.I am snapping it.That's what us Catholics do...doncha know.
The issue of homosexual and other dysfunctional behaviorsI just LOVE you Republicans! Obama's a genius.
DADvocate, you never read any blog posts Althouse posts a couple times a week, that deal with diet and obesity? I always comment extensively on those threads.I read the one on shaming fat people. I'm guessing we were on the same page there. I'm not into shaming people.Althouse seems to have some real issues regarding homosexuality that go beyond the civil rights issues. There's an underlying anger/hostility there. Maybe she hasn't actually resolved the issue within herself and doesn't fully accept having a gay son. Who knows? But, this bullshit post seems to have came from somewhere within her own imagination. I don't know of any external precipating incident.I've always been a live and let live libertarian type. Do what you want to do and let me do what I want to do within the absolutest broadest limits possible. Democrats don't want that, and neither do most Republicans. But I see some hope via the Tea Party and creeping libertarianism in the Republican Party. I see no hope in the Democratic Party.This de Tocqueville's quote applies more to Democrats than Americans in general: "Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom."I'd rather be free than be a Democrat. Additionally, I've also said "I'd rather a guy be gay than liberal."
How does telling the truth make you a disresptectful jerk?Is this the Queen of Englands blog?Is this Downton Abbey?Is Edutcher really Mr. Carson?Is Titus really Thomas the valet?Is Execrable Inga really Mrs. Obrien?Is this another episode of Masterbate Theatre?
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How about we have a conversation about how every time Obama pokes a pointy stick in the eye of a republican, the news media tells the story "look how stupid the republicans are"
The Dems got a lotta political mileage calling Iraq and Afghan the two unfunded wars. Maybe we should ask how these bipartisan senators and Obama will pay for the cost of legalizing the 11 million illegals?
Baron Zemo said...edutcher I am not jumping at the mackerel.I am snapping it.That's what us Catholics do...doncha know.I've done it all my life.How does telling the truth make you a disresptectful jerk?You're owning up to being Nate Silver's #1 doting trained seal, complete with phony Navy hitch and the Master of Smileys and HTML tics?
Question 1: At what point in the quest for gay rights will enough be enough? I'll answer that, for radicals...when enough is more than anyone else. Question 2: Though I've never had an even fleeting thought against homosexuality generally...why am I constantly bombarded with issues I didn't create? Do I care if a gay couple hasn't the same rights for immigration as a hetero married couple? Fuck no I don't. I'm single living for 30+ years with the woman I love, and there are a whole wad of "rights" I/we don't have either...and none of them would you sponsor in the least, you self absorbed assholes. So fuck you if you think I owe you anything. Overturn the DOMA and actually change the definition of "marriage" then come talk to me.
Well, when any of the same sex immigrants are made into citizens and they are HIV-positive, they'll get free health care. So, there's that.
@DaDvocate -- The underlying anger/hostility I read on this thread isn't from Althouse.I wouldn't call it "underlying" either.
Is this Downton Abbey?Dibs on Matthew Crawley!
Wait a minute...I thought the United States government was barred from recognizing same sex relationships.What a farce... we are talking about writing new immigration laws to deal with problems created by the choice to not enforce existing immigration laws.And while they are at it... Obama throws in something, that by itself, is not recognised by the federal goverment, that has no standing.How would we ever survive w/o king Obama?
The underlying anger/hostility I read on this thread isn't from Althouse.I'm referring to her post, does have an element of anger/hostility. But, sure, there's plenty going around. "...don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry."
Inga carries on about how Republicans are so stupid and blah blah blah...and yet virtually all of the "Republican" commenters have said something along the lines of "who gives a shit". Talk about a pointless fucking troll. Jesus Inga. At least the Professor has some intelligence when she trolls. You're just a stupid, stupid evil woman.
The underlying anger/hostility I read on this thread isn't from Althouse.Yeah, it is. Although I admit that I reacted to it in anger, because the post was a fucking strawman.If the good professor had just put it up there as a piece of information, as opposed to a direct taunt, I wouldn't have reacted at all.So have the balls to consider the source of the anger in the first place.
n.n:The issue of homosexual and other dysfunctional behaviors is secondary until it reaches some critical mass in a population. The issue of normalizing homosexual and other dysfunctional behaviors is primary.I think getting too caught up in the particulars of how the politics play out here is unhelpful. If you look back at history, it's not uncommon for homosexual behaviour to have been treated as normal in some sense. The Romans and Greeks all had their catamites, after all. But homosexual relations were nevertheless treated as quite separate from heterosexual relations and marriage -- see how Suetonius titters over Nero's mock marriage to one of his male lovers (in which Nero played the role of the bride). That a behaviour is normalized doesn't necessarily mean that all normalized behaviours are treated as equivalents. That would be silly.
I expect that after an initial surge of enthusiasm, the number of gay and lesbian married couples is going to be quite negligible.If homosexual divorce rates mirror those of straights, I will wager you are correct. Particularly when they find out how expensive it is to walk out of a marriage.
Mad men musicians, who produce crap music are angry losers, why is that?
Chickelit:Please come back when your post makes any sense. I'm not ripping on stay-at-home mothers. I am saying that they are given huge financial benefits by virtue of marriage that flow solely through that marriage, and that very often exceed (by far) the contributions into that system.And yes, you know nothing about me. Such as the fact that my partner and I fostered (and then she adopted because gay adoption is illegal) our daughter who was abused by her heterosexual parents. Then bounced through the foster care system for six years before literally being dumped at the door of social services by the home she lived in for 18 months. Headed by a Christian heterosexual married couple.After being rejected and harmed by household after household all of her life, at age 6 she came to live with us. She'll graduate from high school next year and head to college. But after all, those gays shouldn't have equal rights, right?
Shouting Thomas sounds like an angry old crank shaking his fist at an ever changing world, one that he doesn't understand anymore.Begone dinosaurs!
A mother never turns her back on her son. Never.
Who fell for what, Inga? Who brought up the subject? No one (other than whoresoftheinternet) even made a point of this subject OTHER THAN PROF ALTHOUSE.I think for people like Inga, if conservatives don't follow the playbook that liberals created for them, then projection is the default method of reinforcing their prejudices.
DADvocate said... Althouse seems to have some real issues regarding homosexuality that go beyond the civil rights issues. There's an underlying anger/hostility there. Maybe she hasn't actually resolved the issue within herself and doesn't fully accept having a gay son. Who knows?I agree. Something else that I've noticed over the years, she doesn't seem to have had any friends before this Meade character came along. Combine that with her having tenure, and this is what you get. She likes to criticize others, but doesn't like to receive criticism. She lives in a very small world. The world of tenured academia.
So, it's left wing moby Alex today.
Whore of the net...at the risk of you calling me a fag lover or something else equally as amusing--shut up already. Good grief. You've never choked a black person in your life other than in a masturbatory dream.
Alex said...A mother never turns her back on her son. Never.Well that was inciteful.
Mad men musicians, who produce crap music are angry losers, why is that?Day to day, it's hard to tell who's more of a lowlife, Ritmo or Inga.Perhaps, we should have a poll.
Lawyapalooza,Your sappy liberal sob story reeks of Lennay Kekua. No Heismen for you either.Bashing Christians? CheckRipping on Hetero marriage? CheckPlea for liberalized adoption laws? CheckHappy ending (minus the debt and worthless college degree)? CheckI bet Inga believes you though, so you have that going for you.
Re: AllenS:I agree. Something else that I've noticed over the years, she doesn't seem to have had any friends before this Meade character came along.No, she links to that Polish-American woman -- Nina? -- from time to time and they seem to be friends. Isn't she a fellow-professor? But in any event, why would you drag your friends into your online blog? Lots of people wouldn't particularly appreciate that.
Who the hell wants to be married anyway? Everyone I know that's married has either been divorced at least once or is currently unhappy. I've yet to meet the real life 'John and Olivia Walton'.Admit it. Queers want to be married because of the money. Insurance, health care, social security...all that crap.
You make it too easy for me to make YOU look like a member of the stupid party.While I could care less about gay marriage, your large cut and paste would seem to open the door for polygamy to be legitimized.
Would you send your white hetero son to UW to endure the incessant browbeating, re-education sessions and ridicule from Althouse and her colleagues?
Re: Alex:A mother never turns her back on her son. Never.That's right, disinheritance is a myth! Haha, yeah, maybe among White people.
Okay, someone just go ahead and break it down for me: why does this post make people mad at Althouse? Isn't she right about this being a trap for the GOP? Gay marriage appears to be settled. It's coming whether one agrees with it or not; the young overwhelmingly favor it. The Democratic strategy does seem to be to portray Republicans as stupid and retrograde. So doesn't it follow that the Democrats will put things like this out there just to get a soundbite to use against Republicans? And wouldn't one be correct in assuming that the soundbite will, in fact, be provided?
ST: I still vote Inga. But I may be giving Ritty too much credit.
But after all, those gays shouldn't have equal rights, right?In other words, you're saying you can't claim her as a deduction? Is one of you stay-at-home?
Re: Shouting Thomas:Would you send your white hetero son to UW to endure the incessant browbeating, re-education sessions and ridicule from Althouse and her colleagues?I don't get the impression she'd be incessantly browbeating them about gay rights. My constitutional law professor was a gay man and a lot of his scholarship was about that sort of thing, but he was nevertheless an extremely good and fair professor. Some professors are able to keep their politics out of the classroom.
ST, it wasn't just you I was referring to.
So Freeman, "that's your cue, republicans, say something stupid" plus her other comments didn't make it clear why people would accuse her of trolling her own blog?
How are people arriving at the idea that Althouse doesn't have any friends? That's just weird. How could any of us, except those who know her personally, have any idea what her personal life is like? I've been here for... well, I don't know, basically forever, and I have no idea what Althouse's personal life is like.
Obama jumps the shark, and gets a 9.5 from the liberal judges.
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