February 28, 2013

"When Pope Celestine V quit his job in 1294, his successor locked him in prison and kept him there until he died."

"Pope Benedict XVI will not suffer the same sad fate. When he resigns today, not only will he not be jailed, exiled or even sent to a retirement home, he will get to stay in the Vatican."
This worries some Catholics who think having two popes in the house will make things a little crowded. Some even fear there is a nefarious scheme at work that will allow Benedict to exert undue influence on his successor.
Good luck working out the ex-Pope logistics. 

ADDED: "He has no intention of interfering in the position or the decisions or the activity of his successor. But as every member of the church, he says fully that he recognizes the authority of the supreme pastor of the church who will be elected to succeed him."

30 comments:

Chip S. said...

I see a premise for a reality show.

Bob Ellison said...

Sorta like an ex-girlfriend or -boyfriend, right? Eggs Benedict might be bitter. He might be more circumspect than the new pope. He plans to cloister. What music will he take on his iPod?

traditionalguy said...

Three Roman Emperors sharing power did not work out so well either.

Mitchell the Bat said...

It's good to know the Pope's not a kibitzer.

Smilin' Jack said...

""When Pope Celestine V quit his job in 1294, his successor locked him in prison and kept him there until he died.""
"Pope Benedict XVI will not suffer the same sad fate. When he resigns today, not only will he not be jailed, exiled or even sent to a retirement home, he will get to stay in the Vatican."


I'm sure that's what Celestine V thought, too.

Insufficiently Sensitive said...

"He has no intention of interfering in the position or the decisions or the activity of his successor. But as every member of the church....

What's that big BUT doing in the second sentence? It directly contradicts 'no intention'. Give that reporter a whiff of grapeshot, or a dose of the cat-o-nine-tails.

EDH said...

Two 'poped' to... pope?

Tibore said...

Last time this happened, didn't we end up with a schism? ;)

Heh... as a Catholic I'm giggling to myself at the thought. East and West Vatican. Or would they do North and South? :D

edutcher said...

If you follow the link in the post, you will see Benedict will be keeping to himself mostly.

YoungHegelian said...

Take a look at soon-to-be ex-Pope Benedict. Does it really look like he's got the energy or going to be around long enough to be a thorn in anyone's side?

I think he'll be singing with the choir celestial within two years.

ricpic said...

What a bum deal, they even take away his ruby slippers.

Carol said...

I think he'll be singing with the choir celestial within two years.

Exactly, dead man walking. He's done his duty.

LarsPorsena said...

For historical symmetry maybe he could take up residence in Avignon.

Larry J said...

Chip S. said...
I see a premise for a reality show.


Or a sitcom.

EMD said...

Pope Emeritus Benedict prepares to leave Vatican.

Renee said...

@ Young,

But his life will be extended, because he won't be traveling.

YoungHegelian said...

@Renee,

But his life will be extended..

Yeah, he won't die at 87. He'll die at 87 & 1/2.

I really do think he bowed out because there's something he really wants to do before he kicks the bucket, and this really is the only way be can get it done in what time he has left.

ALP said...

I hope the two popes do not come to blows if they both want to use the Vatican's espresso machine at the same time!

Bill said...

AA: "Good luck working out the ex-Pope logistics."

Hey! Instead of a dull term like 'pope emeritus', why don't we call him the 'X-Pope'?

ALP said...

I hope the two popes do not come to blows if they both want to use the Vatican's espresso machine at the same time!

YoungHegelian said...

@Bill,

Hey! Instead of a dull term like 'pope emeritus', why don't we call him the 'X-Pope'?

Because 'X-Pope' isn't in Latin, you silly thang, you!

tim maguire said...

Accusing Benedict of interfering with the next pope is accusing Benedict of not being Catholic.

whoresoftheinternet said...

Benedict retires so he may influence the choice of his successor.

Benedict has long been concerned with reversing the evil that was Vatican 2 , but aqlso knows there are a lot of leftist cardinals who could hold sway---either as the next pope or as one of the more powerful cardinals.

So Benedict retires to help choose a young, staunchly anti-Vatican 2 successor and surround him with staunchly anti-Vatican 2 cardinals, thus insuring a long succession of time where the church reverses Vatican 2's evil.

Remember: Benedict is a very good politician. He was JPII's right hand man, and pushed for some of JPII's out-of-character pronouncements regarding anti-Vatican 2 ideas. He used his homily at JPII's death as a political springboard, desperate to reverse the evils of leftism on the church as pope. It was that speech that helped him emerge to the public as the likely next pope---before that he was an unknown.

I don't think Benedict wants a figurehead pope who is lead by his cardinals---I think Benedict fears that the power of the papacy is too great and the influence of leftists too strong to allow a weak-minded pope the Throne of Peter. Instead, Benedict will push for a young zealot--probably one of his own acolytes.

And if Benedict's choice is spurned---if a politically correct pope is chosen instead---expect Benedict to undermine him, vocally and openly.

Benedict probably has lined up his preferred successor and used the time between his announcing of the retirement and actual retirement to lobby for him.

Eric Jablow said...

According to Dante, he didn't even make it into Hell:

I saw and recognized the shade of him
Who by his cowardice made the great refusal.
—Inferno III, 59–60

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