July 5, 2013

"Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has offered asylum to U.S. intelligence leaker Edward Snowden..."

"... the state-run AVN news agency reported Friday, without offering details."

Says a CNN Breaking News email.

22 comments:

Lem said...

The women in Venezuela are like nothing Snowden has ever seen.

edutcher said...

Maduro comes off like a Cuban stooge, but, according to Fausta, his days may be numbered.

If so, what happens to Snowden?

Back in the USSR, or back to DC?

Nichevo said...

You know this Snowden case is going to make a madman out of me. The most important thing to remember about Snowden is that he did not act alone. He is a post turtle. It is not possible that he got where he got and did what he did without a directing force. That is what we should be keeping our eyes on, not this trivia of who is going to taunt him before he's finally recaptured or killed by American forces or forces unknown.

edutcher said...

I would tend to agree.

That's what the Choom Gang is thinking, too, I'll bet. Whoever was behind him can release another bomb or bombs.

PS and a little OT:

Congressional .Republicans want to talk to a Marine colonel about Benghazi, but, like the CIA types rescued that night, he's nowhere to be found.

traditionalguy said...

Snowman did not steal secrets so much as he publicized the secret stealing being done at NSA.

Or what he'd did is too secret, so we are told he is a lawbreaker. He exposed a lawbreaking capacity grabbed by NSA, but solemnly told our President and friends would never use without a secret order from a secret judge who cannot reveal the secret of whether he breaks the law in secret or not.

Michael said...

Sort of a Robert Vesco with no dough at this point. Fame will pass soon. The Venezuelans wont know what to do with him. He will be useless and expensive. Vesco got bounced around good,Cuba, Bahamas, Costa Rica. And Vesco jad something of value. This Dude has nothing they can use.

Michael said...

Sort of a Robert Vesco with no dough at this point. Fame will pass soon. The Venezuelans wont know what to do with him. He will be useless and expensive. Vesco got bounced around good,Cuba, Bahamas, Costa Rica. And Vesco jad something of value. This Dude has nothing they can use.

ddh said...

I guess Maduro found a new way of celebrating Venezuelan independence day, July 5th.

Marg said...

Thank you so much, you really are a chip of the Chavez block--excuse a English piece of English slang---now take care of crime and healthcare and all will be what it should be---right? Take care, please.

Marg said...

Thank you for helping Snowden, this is one soul that needed sanctifying. You really have lived up to Chavez and his generosity. Take care.

Marg said...

Now be careful, because you can never underestimate nefarious actions of the past---and the authors that believe they are omnipotent?

Richard Dolan said...

He's released the best stuff already, or been relieved of it by his Chinese and Russian hosts.

So what difference does it make now?

Revenant said...

The most important thing to remember about Snowden is that he did not act alone. He is a post turtle.

Your assumption appears to be rooted in another assumption, namely that the government does a good job of keeping secrets. Both assumptions are incorrect.

Marg said...

Well one wonders if you caught the comment by Putin " Snowden can stay if he promises not to release info on the US". I am paraphrasing but come on now, countries may appear and maintain their ideological difference just because it is expected. The only one behind the eight ball appears to be you---?

Marg said...

Maybe, but unless you can give qualified support to "others" being involved--I personally remain uninformed until facts are evident--as to the efficacy of governmental information---acting on over or under secured scenarios seems to go hand in glove with media as furthering speculative assertions that like JFK and 911, seem to go on and on. With such overriding barriers very little is proved to be factual. The one area they can't distort too much are facts on the ground.

Nichevo said...

My judgment is not an assumption. It is founded on my background in financial IT. He could not have done this at a US bank or a French bank or a Swiss bank. Not at three months. You couldn't work at Chase or BofA for however many years then get taken on at Algomod or Robert Half to fill a sysadmin job at Citi with the intent of stealing all their depositors' account numbers, tax disclosures, records of wire transfers to drug laundries, or board meeting teleconf videos where they discuss conspiracies in derivatives fraud; download it onto flash drives or laptops; take medical leave for double vision or a chipped tooth; and walk the dat into the NYT or the SEC. Not within 90 days you couldn't.

I say declaratively based upon my career in enterprise technology that in three months he couldn't have found the metaphorical bathroom let alone all this data and the pathways to it. He could not have formed this intent from outside. He could not have assured himself of getting the job! The only thing that makes sense is that he is a patsy for some NSA or DOD lifer who doesn't like what he sees.

Your defiance is based on ignorance of how things work, combined with a will to believe what you want to believe.

Nichevo said...

Oh and,

If I had family at NSA, the one thing you could bet your life on is I wouldn't tell anybody I had family at NSA.

Anthony said...

If you were Snowden, would you accept asylum in a country that can't even keep toilet paper in stock?

Marg said...

There are far more important things than off colored comments--. Funny because of certain countries flare for meddling it seems to give license to just about anyone being coarse.

Nichevo said...

Marg, I assume that was not a response to me. I would appreciate it if you would respond to me.

Marg said...

Honestly, I know very little about computer tech ---did a little programing at U----I guess I go more on what historical events have to conclude covering governmental stupidity---and 20 years of hearing how tribal groups could make powerful nations limb away-decade after decade. So you believe he is a post 'turtle'--definition please ----. I think you could be right but if so what happened to Plan B--and why is he stalled at the terminal?

Nichevo said...

I had thought "post turtle" an Abraham Lincoln quote...

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080930075849AAQOoTE


And wiki:
The joke
An old rancher is talking about politics with a young man from the city. He compares a politician to a "post turtle". The young man doesn't understand and asks him what a post turtle is.

The old man says, "When you're driving down a country road and you see a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a post turtle. You know he didn't get up there by himself. He doesn't belong there; he can't get anything done while he's up there; and you just want to help the poor, dumb thing down."

As for Plan B (?) and what becomes of Snowden, good question. Perhaps it was thought or intended that he would, or will, be killed prior to any questioning.

Certainly for some mastermind his getaway plans were daffy. It is possible also that he is a Sun Tzu style "doomed spy" meant to stuff up the Chinese and Russians with false info. I don't know the answers. First we must ask the questions.