Boko Haram in Maiduguri, Nigeria.
The attack on Maiduguri coincided with a visit by Secretary of State John Kerry to Nigeria’s commercial capital, Lagos, for meetings with President Goodluck Jonathan and his challenger in the coming presidential election, Muhammadu Buhari, a retired general. Mr. Kerry was expected to focus in part on the Boko Haram threat amid mounting friction between the United States and Nigeria over how best to deal it....
After a meeting with his British counterpart, earlier this month, Mr. Kerry said that the attacks by Boko Haram constituted war crimes and asserted that the United States was planning a “special initiative” to counter the group. But Mr. Kerry has not provided details of what that initiative is, when it might be undertaken or how the cooperation between the American and Nigerian militaries might be improved.
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Shit just got real.
#StopAttackingMaiduguri said the Obama Administration.
Special initiative? Hope it is more than pictures of Psaki and Harf holding hashtag signs.
Uh oh. Another video must be stirring up the local Muslims. Send in James Taylor.
I heard on NPR last week that The Chinese Peoples Army was sending in troops to keep peace in Nigeria. But nothing in writing on that yet.
President Goodluck Jonathon?
I thought that was what Kerry said when he left:
"Good luck, Jonathon."
John Henry
Not Nigeria but two Japanese journalists just got their heads chopped off.
Japan is said to be very angry.
ISIS asks "Yeah? Whaddya gonna do about it?"
John Henry
Every day, in every way, things are getting better.
The can has to be kicked almost two years down the road. Looks like that is going to be a bit too far before the spiral down is too horrific for even these clowns to ignore.
I thought this sentence in the article ("But a breakdown in trust between the United States; and Nigeria’s militaries, has hampered cooperation against Boko Haram"),would lead to serious analysis but I was disappointed. It seems to me a critical point but since it is the Obama administration the NYT couldn't be bothered to pursue it.
Kerry's looking for that third purple heart so he can retire from State. Would that he gets it!
Lots and lots of non-decimated islamic "JV" teams doing very very well in their quest to establish very real murderous states all over the middle east and africa.
Which we know is impossible 'cuz our "preezy" told us it was all getting better now.
What are you going to believe? Pres preezys cool observations or those stacks of bodies?
Racists!
It looks like Obama has succeeded at ending Pax Americana. Now the apocalypse can get into gear. That is what the Shia/Iranian Muslim friends of Obama are lusting for...the Muhammedan Messiah.
Special iniative?
A speech in the U.N. regretting the collapse of the Nigerian state and its capture by "violent extremists."
(The most impressive person I have met in my life is Bede Nkigbo when he was a young exchange student at Washington State. I shall be very sorry to see his life's work be wasted by these barbarians.)
Those Nigerian princes are going need Americans to help them stash their money for real.
Nigerians plead "Halp us Jon Carry".
"The can has to be kicked almost two years down the road."
This is what Clinton did and that gave us 9/11. I understand that ISIS has bigger plans. The open border should help.
khesanh0802 said...
I thought this sentence in the article
I thought the same thing... God forbid we give them tools that would allow them an unfair advantage against Boko Haram.
That's the best part of the Obama WH's foreign diplomatic and Military philosophy. Never operate for a position of strength. If the US has an advantage, we should make every attempt to even the playing field. It makes the opposition feel more comfortable...
I knew it would be bad when Barack Obama and the left wing lunatic fringe in this country set out to end the Pax Americana. I didn't realize it would be quite this bad.
And it's going to get worse.
"But a breakdown in trust between the United States; and Nigeria’s militaries...
Reasons: Under-funded, under-trained, tribal loyalties, Flag-rank corruption, infiltration...too depressing to continue.
What happened? did someone draw a cartoon of Muhammed?
Rick Owens is also designing our foreign policy in his spare time.
Those Nigerian princes are going need Americans to help them stash their money for real.
Be it understood I don't LOL things lightly, that said... LOL!
Islam works like organized crime.
It's a stable political system, just not a very efficient one.
That's why it's called the 8th century.
Special initiative? Hope it is more than pictures of Psaki and Harf holding hashtag signs.
Pshaw and fie on your cynicism, Mark. Fie, I say!
This time the selfies will be nude.
Intervene to save Blacks? Check.
Intervene to save Jews? Not so much.
furious_a said...
"But a breakdown in trust between the United States; and Nigeria’s militaries...
Reasons: Under-funded, under-trained, tribal loyalties, Flag-rank corruption, infiltration...too depressing to continue.
Which in itself isn't all that bad, but since they don't vote democrat they're fucked.
We did so well in the Middle East - time to try our hand at Africa? This'll be fun...
In defense of the inevitably maladroit, feckless, and counterproductive "special initiative," I must point out that Nigeria has been impudently playing with matches for decades now, since their independence in fact. Just about anyone who has had the good will to try to do Nigeria a favor has been played for a sucker. Now that they've managed to set themselves on fire there aren't many willing to put them out.
#sendinjamestaylor
Nigeria is Bush's fault. Because Iraq. And colonialism!
See how that works? No problem for the left or Obama at all. It is a very convenient world view.
We are getting a blizzard on Tuesday. 1-2 feet!!! The Whole Foods (1 of 4--largest number of Whole Foods stores per population in the country) in Camby was packed. MIT, Harvard, berets, Canada jackets, dykes, fags, and few white people. Famous Harvard profs everywhere in the Whole Foods!
Blizzards make me horny.
Rubbing Tom Bradys' balls.
The Whole Foods (1 of 4--largest number of Whole Foods stores per population in the country) in Camby was packed.
That dubious statistic doesn't imply what you think it implies, Titus.
This is not the first existential problem Nigeria has had. It has sorted out most of them on its own. The Biafran war was in its way a most unlikely victory for the Nigerian state, if one is prone to see all problems there as tribal and ethnic, and the state as basically incompetent. They do have it in them to not be helpless, if they are motivated.
I expect that if Boko Haram becomes a real threat to the unified state, as the Ibo's were (being as they were sitting on the oil), the leadership will emerge to run a properly brutal war of reconquest in the Nigerian North.
The Boko's have been sliding by, so far, because they have been making trouble in obscure and economically uninteresting places.
As for the US - there is very little of value the US can do in Nigeria. Unless the Nigerians can be convinced to have their military directly commanded by US officers, old colonialist style, in order to patch over their corruption and trust issues, which is most unlikely. They will have to figure those out themselves.
BTW, the US would probably have done better, militarily, in Iraq to set up sepoy-style units as in the old British Indian army. These could have turned into reliable institutions and served as a long term guarantee of good behavior among the ethnicities. If the Sunnis felt put upon they would have a viable way to appeal above the heads of the Shiite central government, and not have feared being at their mercy. Not done because it would mean the US turning into a long term direct player in Iraqi politics.
I heard on NPR last week that The Chinese Peoples Army was sending in troops to keep peace in Nigeria. But nothing in writing on that yet.
Chinese resource investments need protection
Nigerian oil sector gets $23 billion of Chinese investment fund: South-South Co-operation
When will Obama slow jam the news for us proles again?
Smart Diplomacy!
Where's Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner when you need him?
You voted for this, Ann.
Which news story will get more attention, this or "deflategate"? One is about millions of lives at risk and the other about improperly inflated footballs. Nigeria has the opportunity to make Obama look bad, so of course it'll get little or no coverage.
If you don't send in troops to deal with the head choppers then they'll send in their troops to chop the heads.
There is no negotiated settlement.
Another Obamafail.
Notice it's always MUSLIMS that invade and kill people while Obama fiddles.
Yes Clinton toyed with the terrorist and made them bold enough to kill over 3000 of us at 9/11.
Obama will do better. Bet we get tens of thousands killed here in the US cause of what he has been doing, and not doing, for six years.
Everything Obama touches turns to stink.
Now juxtapose this with asking everyone to show some respect for a dead Saudi shiek.
Everytime I read about "Boko" I think of the Woodhouse episode where Wooster tries to explain about this.
See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_hBiLbX61Q&
Episode 1 of Season 1 (part 3 of 5).
Time to arm the Christians there to the teeth and let them take care of the Muslims and if successful do the same in other similarly infested areas.
Radical Islam is rocking the world. But why should we be surprised? The meccachurian candidate has been in office for 6 years, a man whose family tree is full of Kenyan mohammadans.
We in the US have been blessed in having a functional military for basically our whole history. We tend to forget, that historically speaking, armies that are nothing but workfare for the rulers' cronies are very common. These are the armies that implode & cut & run when faced with an opponent that puts up more fight than unarmed civilians. Nigeria seems to have such an army. Iraq clearly does, since it took only about 350 ISIS troops to take Mosul.
While I lay awake in bed before falling asleep, I often listen to BBC World News. It has lots of African coverage & interviews lots of African politicians. It's easy to tell when the African politicians are lying, because if they can talk, then they are still breathing. Seriously, they are most outrageous liars on the planet. If they are challenged on their lies, they'll just say "Well, so?" & go on to the next lie.
Nigeria is well armed, at least for this sort of war, and moreover has the cash flow to re-arm itself as required. They also have all the manpower they will ever need. Its all a matter of leadership, will and organization. There is quite a lot of talent available too.
I don't see why they would require US aid to deal with this problem.
"Intervene to save Blacks? Check."
How silly. African blacks can't vote for Democrats ! Clinton ignored Rwanda with the advice of Obama's national security advisor.
Remind me again: what would Obama be doing differently if he was a closet Muslim and trying to help Islamofascists succeed around the world and dismantle our role as world cop??
Remind me again: what would Obama be doing differently if he was a closet Muslim and trying to help Islamofascists succeed around the world and dismantle our role as world cop??
I've been asking this question around here for the last couple of weeks or so.
No answers so far.
Michael K: ""Intervene to save Blacks? Check."
How silly. African blacks can't vote for Democrats!"
Don't be shortsighted.
With a flip of the Credit Card check switch, the dems made sure that any African blacks that chose to could easily donate to our selfie-takin' leader!
Don't think that won't continue.
But hey, dems are against "dark money"!!!
When I was in college, say 1963-64 or thereabouts, I took some courses on Imperialism and on post-colonialism in Africa. This was, if you recall your history or are old enough to remember the era, pretty much at the end of colonialism in Africa (southern Rhodesia and South Africa were still white-ruled, of course, but by and large it was Africa for the Africans).
All the really smart people -- that is, my professors and the writers of the books that my professors assigned -- were optimistic about the future of Africa in the new era of self-rule, and in particular about the future of Nigeria. Although other African nations might struggle to achieve stable democratic governments, Nigeria would do so with little muss and fuss.
And do you know why? Because about a third of Nigerians were Muslims, and they were ruled by kings and princes and sheiks, who were naturally conservative and would balance the radical elements and assure a moderate approach by the government.
Worked out just as they predicted, didn't it?
I am no longer a robot.
Special initiative? Any initiative would be welcome.
The US Military now has an Africa Command. My SeaBee nephew spent three years in various parts of Africa with his bulldozer building stuff. But it's not clear to me what the mission of the Africa Command is.
Titus said...
We are getting a blizzard on Tuesday. 1-2 feet!!! The Whole Foods (1 of 4--largest number of Whole Foods stores per population in the country) in Camby was packed. MIT, Harvard, berets, Canada jackets, dykes, fags, and few white people. Famous Harvard profs everywhere in the Whole Foods!
This is what passes for a crisis in Cambridge. Yours is the most revealing post for this topic, Titus. Thanks for the insight.
[Kerry} added that there was no indication as yet that Boko Haram had formally affiliated itself with the Islamic State.
The key word being "formally."
Where's the Nigerian Army??
Did he mention that "special initiative" to the Nigerians before he mentioned it to the media?
India loves Michelle's dress-total hit!
Rubbing Tom Brady's balls.
I caught Bill and Melinda Gates being interviewed on CSPAN, talking about the public health and education efforts they are funding in Africa. Very matter of factly Bill Gates mentioned that Africa, as a continent, has about 50% of its population involved in agriculture, yet they need to import food from a country in which less than 2% of the population is able to feed the entire country and then export to feed the rest of the world. It was a very impressive way to express the gap between what is possible and what is practiced in different parts of the world. Their plans seem sensible, until you realize they make no mention of phenomenon like Boko Haram, who just might destroy schools and other technology and public health infrastructure as fast as Gates can build them.
Here is their army:
Nigerian army claims rare victory against Boko Haram
Kerry met with the Nigerian President Sunday.
Kerry was also expected to discuss the Boko Haram insurgency and American support for Nigeria, after Nigeria last year canceled a deal that would have seen the U.S. train its military. Nigeria is angered by America's refusal to sell it military equipment, including attack helicopters, to fight Boko Haram.
Why did the US refuse to sell them military equipment? Will we now agree to sell them the equipment?
I googled the city to check if it really had two million people.and it pretty much did[1,197,497 to be exact].
Which makes me feel very ignorant.Since I had never heard of Maiduguri
Btw, the Wikipedia article [with whatever grain of salt one wants to take with it] does say that Muslim supremacists have been causing violence in Maiduguri since the 1960s
Has ARMeltdown popped in lately to explain away the latest islamic murderers outrage by noting the long history of colonialism by the Japanese in the Middle East?
@Drago I am not sure that is entirely fair to ARM, but it sure is funny!
Drago said...Has ARMeltdown popped in lately to explain away the latest islamic murderers outrage by noting the long history of colonialism by the Japanese in the Middle East?
To ARM it could never be a case of criminal extortion; it could never be a case of barbaric immorality.
David said...But it's not clear to me what the mission of the Africa Command is.
To be sure it's not to confront nor to offend such Muslims. We're talking sub Sahara here. Things are getting closer to the Fatherland.
Drago, how about all those no-go areas you were raving about a few days? Now that FOX has abjectly apologized you look like an even bigger dumbass than you did before. An empty vessel mindlessly repeating propaganda.
Drago's brain, a no-go area for facts.
AReasonableMan said...
Drago's brain, a no-go area for facts.
Oh. Sweet irony.
AReasonableMan: "Drago's brain, a no-go area for facts."
LOL
These no-go areas were briefed to us back in the late 80's.
The fact that the French are now running around claiming that what is "unofficially" real is not "officially" real is laughably non-dispositive.
Of course, Al Qaeda (or is it "core Al Qaeda") has been decimated and is on the run, Iran is not moving to finalizing a nuclear capability and ISIS is just a JV team. And if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. Period.
Anyone who says otherwise is simply a racist!
But do go on about how the Japanese citizens had it coming for how poorly the Japanese Gov't has treated the innocent islamists during those heady colonial days.
It's quite entertaining.
And to be fully expected from an astonishingly brave Verencemos Brigade commando like yourself!
[Kerry} added that there was no indication as yet that Boko Haram had formally affiliated itself with the Islamic State.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Such a useful sentence.
And repeat after garage and ARMeltdown, there is no Russian invasion of Ukraine! There is no Russian invasion of Ukraine!
Anyone who says so is a racist!
And just for ARMeltdown:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2015/01/20/cnn-too-trafficked-in-no-go-zone-chatter/
snip: "On Saturday, Jan. 10, CNN military analyst Maj. General James “Spider” Marks said this to host Fredricka Whitfield: “And through policies that have been in place, both existing policies that are on the books and what I would call behaviors that exist, for example, the ‘no-go zones,’ there are ‘no-go zones’ not by legal status, was because the police have chosen not to penetrate, and there has been an open effort to keep them isolated.”
In early 1939 I'm sure ARMeltdown would have been regaling us with tales of the impenetrable Maginot Line.
But then again, none of that explains the islamic murderers hatred of the Japanese. Nor the the islamic enslavers and rapists of other african women and children.
I doubt we will be hearing from our noted faux intellectual ARMeltdown on those points either.
It simply doesn't fit the required narrative.
"The Whole Foods ... in Camby was packed."
Local denizens preparing to lay in with adequate supplies of tofurkey, flax milk, fair-trade kelp and organic quinoa.
The "no go" attack vehicle used against Fox News by ARM reflects lazy, out dated talking points. Get with it ARM.
30+ Filipino policemen killed in an ambush yesterday while searching for a Malaysian terrorist.
"A military curfew pushed all civilian vehicles off the streets, and by early evening the only sound in Maiduguri, a normally bustling metropolis of open-air markets and street-side stalls, was the call to prayer from the numerous mosques."
One of the prettiest sounds on Earth, or so I've heard.
AReasonableMan said...
"An empty vessel mindlessly repeating propaganda."
buwaya puti: "30+ Filipino policemen killed in an ambush yesterday while searching for a Malaysian terrorist"
The result, without question, of the Philippines long history of colonialism in Malaysia.
No, its just the latest episode in 400 years of intermittent Muslim-Christian war in those parts.
Anytime a Muslim population is adjacent to a Christian one some such situation is the result. As they become everyone's neighbors we will all be in the same position.
In Nigeria its another ancient habit of Muslim societies, a fundamentalist jihad against other Muslims (nearly all of Boko's recent victims seem to be Muslim). Its the same thing as the Mahdi's and Mad Mullahs that are always popping up somewhere. Its a very frequent historical pattern in Muslim societies. The modern Saudi dynasty is the result of the acts of an 18th century Mad Mullah. Modern trade travel and communications just serve to make all this an international problem.
Here's what Obama would be doing differently if he were a radical Muslim sympathizer fraudulently elected to the highest office in the free world by a numbed-out population of bottom feeders, idiots, "do-gooders", and morally superior intellectuals without a shred of rational thought:
Nothing.
Not a damn thing.
SteveR said...
The "no go" attack vehicle used against Fox News by ARM reflects lazy, out dated talking points.
Clearly Drago has no credibility, but not a single right wing commentator called him on his bullshit. He has effectively undermined the credibility of every winger who posts here. It's not just that he shows that you know nothing of Paris or Birmingham but you know nothing of the world at all. Just empty rhetoric repeated ad nauseam.
Here's an idea on how to deal with it - the Saudi Arabian Air Force and the Egyptian Army go in and take Boko Haram out. They should have solid support from their populace, because as everyone's been telling me, the vast majority of Muslims abhor terrorism and extremism in the name of Islam.
"Nigeria is angered by America's refusal to sell it military equipment, including attack helicopters, to fight Boko Haram."
Perhaps because Mr. Kerry asked what would be a sensible question: "Who the fuck is going to fly them?" It's not like you can read the manual, do a walk-though and take them out for a spin.
AReasonableMeltdown: "Clearly Drago has no credibility, but not a single right wing commentator called him on his bullshit"
LOL
The no go zones were there decades ago, they were there a month ago, and yesterday, and today. They will be there tomorrow.
Poor ARMeltdown and the French are all upset that the world happened to start paying closer attention to what the French have allowed on their own soil. And they want to pretend that none of it is true.
Similar to calling Maj Hasan's attack an example of workplace violence and also similar to the left trying to pretend that somehow, someway, the attacks in Africa and Europe really don't have anything to do with Islam.
Sorry comrade, but the unavoidable result of the lefts multi culti philosophy is bearing it's inevitable fruit.
You'll have to forgive ARMeltdown, when he's not busy deleting his old posts he's even busier pretending that everything that is happening around him isn't happening. And if it is, it's all the fault of western colonialists and Bush!!
Obama is trying to use the strategy that has been so successful in the irs, fast and furious and the benghazi scandals. Run out the clock. The islamists are all to willing to go along, the non islamists, not so much. Dont hold your breath boys.
Drago said...
The no go zones were there decades ago,
Doubling down on stupid.
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